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Cesc is God
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They're fault for winning tickets and cheering loudly when they scored. If you are going to sit in the away end, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT QUIET!!!

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what did they expect ? if theyre gonna celebrate LIVERPOOL scoring then theyre pretty much asking for it

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... Exactly. And anyways, if it was the other way round...

... I'm sure you fans would of kicked off! :roll:

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they would have kicked the shit out of arsenal fans the bloody scousers

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BOJDE LFC wrote:Just found this.

Youngsters kicked out of Emirates for being "Scousers"

A Dream trip to the quarter-finals of the Champions League quickly turned into a nightmare for a young football team from Skelmersdale.

The Arriva Youth under-15s had won a once-in-a-lifetime prize of free tickets to watch Liverpool’s clash with Arsenal last night (Wednesday).

But the evening soon turned sour when they were unceremoniously ejected from the Emirates Stadium.

Bizarrely seated amongst the hard-core element of Arsenal supporters, the football-mad youngsters were victims of a torrent of abuse from adult Gunner supporters.

As proud Liverpool fans, the under-15s celebrated Dirk Kuyt’s 26th minute equaliser, but they were soon turfed out.

Arsenal stewards escorted the boys, and the three adults accompanying them, from their seats and out of the ground.

Stranded outside in unfamiliar surroundings, the children and their guardians went looking for answers but were refused entry back into the stadium.

Ray Radford, manager of the U-15s, was furious at the way his team had been treated and demanded that his shocked players get back in to watch the game.

He said: "We were having a great day until Liverpool scored. We were seated smack bang in the lion’s den and were abused by grown men - men in suits.

"These weren’t louts. They started shouting at the lads as soon as they realised we were Scousers.

"They started shouting about Michael Shields and Heysel - it was pandemonium.

"After we’d celebrated Kuyt’s goal, we were spoken to by the stewards and told to leave the ground.

"Even though I explained to him that the lads were guests of UEFA, because of the competition win, they still chucked us out."

Left stricken outside the ground the lads, wearing special UEFA tracksuits given to them as prize winners, continued to be hurled with abuse from passing footy yobs.

Radford eventually managed to get hold of a female UEFA official but he says she was of little help.

Ray added: "The female UEFA official said we weren’t allowed back in the ground and just left us there.

"We eventually walked round to a part of the stadium we recognised and managed to talk to the UEFA project manager, a guy called Simon Calder.

"He apologised for what had happened saying it was 'unacceptable, appalling and totally unprofessional'.

"But he said that Arsenal were not going to allow us back in the ground.

"We were eventually granted access back to our mini-bus but were not allowed to leave the ground until 11pm.

"By this stage, the lads were very anxious, quiet and very, very scared.

"They were stressed and because we weren’t allowed back in the ground, we missed the rest of the game."

The Advertiser spoke to Ollie Tritton but he declined to comment. UEFA official Simon Calder was unavailable for comment.

What a disgrace! I assume they were sitting around were you are talking about?
Who ran this competition and gave a youth team from Merseyside tickets in the home end? When silver members who couldnt get tickets in the first few hours they were on sale were unlucky?

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Post by BOJDE LFC »

They are under 15 and they were subjected to abuse from scary, ugly, fat grown men. Even if they are scouse, they are still kids.

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Post by dorset_gooner »

This is getting a little tedious and out of perspective in my opinion.

If the pool fans were going two at a time through the turnstiles then they need arresting. Simple as. Its dangerous and it stops your own genuine fans getting in who have tickets.

The story about the kids getting abused is just ridiculous all round.

They won a comp to sit in the home end?? If the kids are upset blame the competition organisers if you ask me :roll:

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While I'm sure there were a few things said to them, I find it hard to believe that Scouser 14-15 year olds were blameless and didn't lip off!! Come on! :shock:

Anyway if you give it large in an away end you will get both barrells (hopefully only verbally, but rightly so). As one of my colleagues said, if that had been Anfield how many of our kids would have been physically assaulted?? Also, if your kids had been in old shatford, well you can imagine what the manure scum would have done...

The article sounds overblown and exagerated to me, typical of the Liverpool media's hysterical victim/persecution complex.

Uefa should compensate them though, in fairness.

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Post by AdamGreen »

I agree with pixie , complete waste of tickets to send that team to watch the match in the home end! The organiser should have known better and the manager of the team should have informed them to keep quiet if liverpool score , its common sense unfortunately it prevails in somecases.

He obviously didnt and paid the consequences... :roll:

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Post by Magic Hat »

The organiser certainly should have thought that one through but another point is did we deal with that well as it doesn't seem like it? Or deal with the problems we encountered like forged tickets among other things so that will need to be look at. Liverpool do seem to have fans who travel anyway and try to get in ala Athens but we should be able to handle it, we don't seem to have done too well

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Post by dvbrisgooner1 »

Arsenal claim that the tickets were a group that were given to UEFA behind the goal - as are the ones in the East Upper.

As for Hilllsborough (and this isn't really the place for the debate) the fact remains that if thousands of Liverpool "fans" hadn't turned up without tickets, but tried to force their way in anyway, then 96 innocent people would not have died.

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A lot of people believe that Heysel was down to a few firms from other English clubs who had travelled with Liverpool and teamed up to have a go at the Juve fans.

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BOJDE LFC wrote:Just found this.

Youngsters kicked out of Emirates for being "Scousers"

A Dream trip to the quarter-finals of the Champions League quickly turned into a nightmare for a young football team from Skelmersdale.

The Arriva Youth under-15s had won a once-in-a-lifetime prize of free tickets to watch Liverpool’s clash with Arsenal last night (Wednesday).

But the evening soon turned sour when they were unceremoniously ejected from the Emirates Stadium.

Bizarrely seated amongst the hard-core element of Arsenal supporters, the football-mad youngsters were victims of a torrent of abuse from adult Gunner supporters.

As proud Liverpool fans, the under-15s celebrated Dirk Kuyt’s 26th minute equaliser, but they were soon turfed out.

Arsenal stewards escorted the boys, and the three adults accompanying them, from their seats and out of the ground.

Stranded outside in unfamiliar surroundings, the children and their guardians went looking for answers but were refused entry back into the stadium.

Ray Radford, manager of the U-15s, was furious at the way his team had been treated and demanded that his shocked players get back in to watch the game.

He said: "We were having a great day until Liverpool scored. We were seated smack bang in the lion’s den and were abused by grown men - men in suits.

"These weren’t louts. They started shouting at the lads as soon as they realised we were Scousers.

"They started shouting about Michael Shields and Heysel - it was pandemonium.

"After we’d celebrated Kuyt’s goal, we were spoken to by the stewards and told to leave the ground.

"Even though I explained to him that the lads were guests of UEFA, because of the competition win, they still chucked us out."

Left stricken outside the ground the lads, wearing special UEFA tracksuits given to them as prize winners, continued to be hurled with abuse from passing footy yobs.

Radford eventually managed to get hold of a female UEFA official but he says she was of little help.

Ray added: "The female UEFA official said we weren’t allowed back in the ground and just left us there.

"We eventually walked round to a part of the stadium we recognised and managed to talk to the UEFA project manager, a guy called Simon Calder.

"He apologised for what had happened saying it was 'unacceptable, appalling and totally unprofessional'.

"But he said that Arsenal were not going to allow us back in the ground.

"We were eventually granted access back to our mini-bus but were not allowed to leave the ground until 11pm.

"By this stage, the lads were very anxious, quiet and very, very scared.

"They were stressed and because we weren’t allowed back in the ground, we missed the rest of the game."

The Advertiser spoke to Ollie Tritton but he declined to comment. UEFA official Simon Calder was unavailable for comment.

What a disgrace! I assume they were sitting around were you are talking about?
Couldn't care a shite about them mate,

the away sections for away fans, simple as

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Post by dvbrisgooner1 »

QuartzGooner wrote:A lot of people believe that Heysel was down to a few firms from other English clubs who had travelled with Liverpool and teamed up to have a go at the Juve fans.

This was simply a story put out by the Liverpool press to once again deflect attention away from their violent marauding, thieving brand of scum.

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