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im reading arsene wenger pure genius at the moment, good enough read but nothing new in there that the official bio didnt cover.

Anyone got the new Vince Flynn?

12thGooner wrote:Just finished reading The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking.

I was at his lecture the other week at the Albert Hall and it came with a free copy of his book. It is pretty simple to follow but its chock full of facts so it can feel like its too much information in one sitting to read more than a couple of chapters, i'm super smart so i don't get this problem

I don't think I'd trust Stephen Hawking with my house.

reading when friday comes by james montague about football in war zones,, palestine,iraq etc....

a really good read

Robert Enke - A far too short life by Ronald Reng.

Read this book if it is available in your language.

Robert Enke commited suicide in November 2009. He was Germanys Number 1 goalkeeper for the World Cup 2010 and was depressive.

What I learned from that book:
a) Jose Mourinho was Enke´s coach at Benfica Lisbon. He was the best coach of his career Enke said. I hear that more and more frequent from different players. Did anyone say that about Mr Wenger anytime?

b) Alex Ferguson tried to sign him in 2001 as the number 2 behind Bathez, but Enke rejected Fergie, because he wanted to be the number 1. Fergie said afterwards that he wasn´t rejected very often during his time at ManUtd.

c) The impact of a disease like depression can be extremely massive. This guy had a 10 month old daughter, a loving wife, enough money and a world cup as numer 1 to come but still commited suicide...

R.I.P. Robert

cusamano wrote:

Robert Enke - A far too short life by Ronald Reng.

Read this book if it is available in your language.

Robert Enke commited suicide in November 2009. He was Germanys Number 1 goalkeeper for the World Cup 2010 and was depressive.

What I learned from that book:
a) Jose Mourinho was Enke´s coach at Benfica Lisbon. He was the best coach of his career Enke said. I hear that more and more frequent from different players. Did anyone say that about Mr Wenger anytime?

b) Alex Ferguson tried to sign him in 2001 as the number 2 behind Bathez, but Enke rejected Fergie, because he wanted to be the number 1. Fergie said afterwards that he wasn´t rejected very often during his time at ManUtd.

c) The impact of a disease like depression can be extremely massive. This guy had a 10 month old daughter, a loving wife, enough money and a world cup as numer 1 to come but still commited suicide...

R.I.P. Robert

Depression is a terrible disease. Most people suffering from it aren't correctly diagnosed either.

A good mate of mine threw himself under a train about 12 years ago. He had been diagnosed as what was then called a "manic deppressive" i.e; he had vast mood swings from elation to severe depression. Nowdays it's called Bipolar Disorder (I think). His older brother couldn't live with the grief and he too killed himself about year later. I still don't know how their parents got through it to be honest, losing their only two kids like that.

worst thing was the night my mate killed himself he hadn't turned up for football training and we had a cup final on the Sunday so we were all mouthing off about him letting us down, and what a *word censored* he was etc etc. We had no idea he was actually dead at that stage. I think all of us felt like shit for years afterwards tbh.

Sad story, DB.

There was another promising football player in Germany, Sebastian Deisler.
He played for Bayern Munich before he was diagnosed with Depression. He ended his career in 2007 at the age of 27.
Nowadays he´s healthy, I guess, and works as a physio.

Currently reading The Only Thing Worth Dying For by Eric Blehm.

It's the true account of how an 11 man Green Beret team choppered into Afghanistan in Nov 2001 and brought the hate to thoussands of Taliban. It's a great read and the parts describing the team calling in air strikes on hundreds of Taliban are eye opening to say the least.

I had actually read an account of this team (ODA 574) in another book and thus I know it ends badly. In a desperate fire fight one of them called accidently in a fire mission on their own position killing 3 and injuring most of the rest of the Green Berets and killing 25 of their Afghan allies.

A heroic account of the war on terror (back in the days when it had some moral justification) that ultimately ends in tragedy.

Will be starting "No True Glory: A Frontline Account of the Battle for Fallujah" by Bing West on the train home today. I read his previous book "The March Up" about the US Marine assault on Baghdad and he is a quality modern military history writer.

REBEL GOONER wrote:im reading arsene wenger pure genius at the moment, good enough read but nothing new in there that the official bio didnt cover.

I had always refrained from reading any of the Wenger biographies. Instead intending to wait until he retired, in the hope he would write his own complete auto-biography.
Unfortunatley with the way things have gone in recent seasons and my ever diminishing estimation of the man and his integrity,I now doubt if I could bring myself to read it.

cusamano wrote:Sad story, DB.

There was another promising football player in Germany, Sebastian Deisler.
He played for Bayern Munich before he was diagnosed with Depression. He ended his career in 2007 at the age of 27.
Nowadays he´s healthy, I guess, and works as a physio.

Yep, he was a quality player.

Good to hear he's doing well.

DB10GOONER wrote:Currently reading The Only Thing Worth Dying For by Eric Blehm.

It's the true account of how an 11 man Green Beret team choppered into Afghanistan in Nov 2011 and brought the hate to thoussands of Taliban. It's a great read and the parts describing the team calling in air strikes on hundreds of Taliban are eye opening to say the least.

I had actually read an account of this team (ODA 574) in another book and thus I know it ends badly. In a desperate fire fight one of them called accidently in a fire mission on their own position killing 3 and injuring most of the rest of the Green Berets and killing 25 of their Afghan allies.

A heroic account of the war on terror (back in the days when it had some moral justification) that ultimately ends in tragedy.

Will be starting "No True Glory: A Frontline Account of the Battle for Fallujah" by Bing West on the train home today. I read his previous book "The March Up" about the US Marine assault on Baghdad and he is a quality modern military history writer.

Fucking hell that book sounds ahead of its time!

Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:Currently reading The Only Thing Worth Dying For by Eric Blehm.

It's the true account of how an 11 man Green Beret team choppered into Afghanistan in Nov 2011 and brought the hate to thoussands of Taliban. It's a great read and the parts describing the team calling in air strikes on hundreds of Taliban are eye opening to say the least.

I had actually read an account of this team (ODA 574) in another book and thus I know it ends badly. In a desperate fire fight one of them called accidently in a fire mission on their own position killing 3 and injuring most of the rest of the Green Berets and killing 25 of their Afghan allies.

A heroic account of the war on terror (back in the days when it had some moral justification) that ultimately ends in tragedy.

Will be starting "No True Glory: A Frontline Account of the Battle for Fallujah" by Bing West on the train home today. I read his previous book "The March Up" about the US Marine assault on Baghdad and he is a quality modern military history writer.

Fucking hell that book sounds ahead of its time!

haha - good spot.

NoLifeSlop.

I fixed the original but left it in your quote to help your post. You need it, mate.

irishman can read

DB10GOONER wrote:haha - good spot.

NoLifeSlop.

I fixed the original but left it in your quote to help your post. You need it, mate.

Why don’t you just ban me then you fucking wanker? Or do you have to get permission first you class monitoring bastard?!

Henry Norris 1913 wrote:irishman can read

Ask your missus about my reading skills. Sorry, that should say "fucking" skills. They all love some Oirish in them Britslop.