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Although I admire Mourinho's 'abilities' a lot more than he seemingly does, I have to say I agree almost word for word with what augie has written on his last few posts.

augie wrote:Yankee I dont have my arse buried up wenger's all style no substance philosphy and nobody appreciates a sterling backs to the wall performance more than I do (GG is still my favourite manager ) but there is a world of difference between a strong defensive performance and sending out a pack of thugs to kick anything that moves and that is all this madrid team under moaninho are If fcuking stoke produced those bullshit tactics we would be the first to slate them using terms like anti-football and that is fcuking hypocrisy at its worst

I notice again that when slating barca for getting every decision you also conveniently forget about inter's crucial offside 3rd goal v them last season

Offside decisions are called by the linesman. Besides, nobody is suggesting barcelona are incapable of being on the wrong end of a poor call but its become a bit too coincidental for my liking in the past few years that Barcelona (the corporate/marketing/media cash-cow darling) consistently get these bizzare decisions whenver they are on the ropes/running out of ideas.

Of course i can prove fuck all but i seriously smell a rat, a smell all too familiar with UEFA.

augie wrote:Revista de liga did a breakdown a few weeks ago of the various red cards his players have received against barca over the years and there was only one, yes just one, that you could consider to have been a harsh decision. He is being crafty by bring the chavs and us into the argument as well so that he might receive some support from these clubs when justice is being handed out to him and his players. Did he mention the offside goal his inter team scored last season v barca at the san siro ? Did he fcuk cos then it would fly against his conspiracy theory bullshit

Did they also count the amount of red cards barcelona players should have recieved for their theatrics and diving? Ok, we'll take your word for it that all but one of the red cards Madrid received was warranted, but what about the red cards barcelona players should have received? Does it record the number of times Alves/Busquets/Pedro/Xavi/Iniesta/Villa/literally any of their other players, should have been sent of for their persistent simulation and play acting? Alves was on a yellow card last night, and goes down like he's had his leg amputated, rolling around on the ground in agony, trying to get Pepe sent off, only for him to come sprinting back on in what i actually counted was less that 4 minutes. His antics deserved a yellow card for what he was truly doing was conning the ref into thinking he was badly injured and trying to get Pepe punished worse that he would have been if Alves had just got up and carried on with it. So that should be a second yellow and a red to Alves.

Pedro should have recieved a yellow card for the same reason when he climbed over the back of a madrid player and for some reason ended up on the floor clutching his face He was clearly trying to con the ref into thinking the madrid player had struck him in the face. He also should have been shown a yellow card for raising his hands to Marcello in the second half, so right there are two bookable offences that have gone unpunished. Messi's push towards the end of the match should have also been a yellow card and so should his late tackle near the touchline on the far side. Again, they go unpunished.

So yeah, Madrid may have deserved those red cards but do not let that cloud the fact that Barcelona should also be getting punished for their cheating and dirty play and yet somehow manage to never get a player sent off, or booked in some cases, even though they persistently adopt those tactics.

Has there ever been a more expensive team assembled than this madrid team ? He has some of the finist players playing the game in the world right now and granted he is playing the worlds best team but does he need to employ such anti football tactics ?

Firstly, having an expensive team consisting of world class players does not automatically equal you having a great team. The galacticos of Ronaldo, Figo, R.Carlos, Zidane etc... went 3 seasons wihout winning anything and are notorious for their underachievement.
So having some of the best players in the team does not necessarily make Real Madrid a great side that can all of a sudden overpower a Barcelona side that has been nurtured for years, with players who have played alongside each other for a decade and gelled and excelled together in the past 5 seasons.

This brings me onto the next issue that i have with your post. That somehow Mourinho's tactics were wrong, and he deserved the injustice because he dared to stifle Barcelona.

It seems as though you've forgotten that it was a CL Semi-Final and that away goals count a lot. So of course the team that plays at home in the first leg will be looking to go to the away tie without conceeding a goal. I would expect nothing less than an attempt to get a clean sheet and to then go to the second leg with the safety of your team getting an away goal and going through the tie. To expect Madrid to have done anything different to that is plain stupid. Why would Madrid attack in the first leg, leaving themselves open to conceeding 3 or 4 away goals, and effectively rule themselves out the tie, when the logical thing to do would be to keep barcelona's chances to a minimum and then travel to the Nou Camp where you know any goal that you score will be twice as effective and thus allow you to play a bit more attacking and put the pressure on the other team.

All you have to do is think of it logically and see that up until the red card (again!) Barcelona looked clueless and that Madrid were very comfortable. How many clear cut chances did they have? Hardly any. There is a real possibility that last night could have ended up like when we played them at Arsenal. They dominated the ball for 80 minutes without really having that many chances, and once they started to tire we took advantage and punished them for it. It was shaping up to be exactly the same scenario last night and Madrid looked even more defensively comfortable than we did, and were preparing to bring on Kaka until the red card. So in reality, Madrid looked the more comfortable of the two sides and would have been more pleased about the result out of the two, up until yet another soft red card allows barcelona to ease their way back into the tie and take advantage of the extra man.
There was nothing wrong with Mourinho's tactics and it was the expected thing for a team playing at home in the first leg of a semi-final against Barcelona.

MM99 wrote:

augie wrote:Revista de liga did a breakdown a few weeks ago of the various red cards his players have received against barca over the years and there was only one, yes just one, that you could consider to have been a harsh decision. He is being crafty by bring the chavs and us into the argument as well so that he might receive some support from these clubs when justice is being handed out to him and his players. Did he mention the offside goal his inter team scored last season v barca at the san siro ? Did he fcuk cos then it would fly against his conspiracy theory bullshit

Did they also count the amount of red cards barcelona players should have recieved for their theatrics and diving? Ok, we'll take your word for it that all but one of the red cards Madrid received was warranted, but what about the red cards barcelona players should have received? Does it record the number of times Alves/Busquets/Pedro/Xavi/Iniesta/Villa/literally any of their other players, should have been sent of for their persistent simulation and play acting? Alves was on a yellow card last night, and goes down like he's had his leg amputated, rolling around on the ground in agony, trying to get Pepe sent off, only for him to come sprinting back on in what i actually counted was less that 4 minutes. His antics deserved a yellow card for what he was truly doing was conning the ref into thinking he was badly injured and trying to get Pepe punished worse that he would have been if Alves had just got up and carried on with it. So that should be a second yellow and a red to Alves.

Pedro should have recieved a yellow card for the same reason when he climbed over the back of a madrid player and for some reason ended up on the floor clutching his face He was clearly trying to con the ref into thinking the madrid player had struck him in the face. He also should have been shown a yellow card for raising his hands to Marcello in the second half, so right there are two bookable offences that have gone unpunished. Messi's push towards the end of the match should have also been a yellow card and so should his late tackle near the touchline on the far side. Again, they go unpunished.

So yeah, Madrid may have deserved those red cards but do not let that cloud the fact that Barcelona should also be getting punished for their cheating and dirty play and yet somehow manage to never get a player sent off, or booked in some cases, even though they persistently adopt those tactics.

Has there ever been a more expensive team assembled than this madrid team ? He has some of the finist players playing the game in the world right now and granted he is playing the worlds best team but does he need to employ such anti football tactics ?

Firstly, having an expensive team consisting of world class players does not automatically equal you having a great team. The galacticos of Ronaldo, Figo, R.Carlos, Zidane etc... went 3 seasons wihout winning anything and are notorious for their underachievement.
So having some of the best players in the team does not necessarily make Real Madrid a great side that can all of a sudden overpower a Barcelona side that has been nurtured for years, with players who have played alongside each other for a decade and gelled and excelled together in the past 5 seasons.

This brings me onto the next issue that i have with your post. That somehow Mourinho's tactics were wrong, and he deserved the injustice because he dared to stifle Barcelona.

It seems as though you've forgotten that it was a CL Semi-Final and that away goals count a lot. So of course the team that plays at home in the first leg will be looking to go to the away tie without conceeding a goal. I would expect nothing less than an attempt to get a clean sheet and to then go to the second leg with the safety of your team getting an away goal and going through the tie. To expect Madrid to have done anything different to that is plain stupid. Why would Madrid attack in the first leg, leaving themselves open to conceeding 3 or 4 away goals, and effectively rule themselves out the tie, when the logical thing to do would be to keep barcelona's chances to a minimum and then travel to the Nou Camp where you know any goal that you score will be twice as effective and thus allow you to play a bit more attacking and put the pressure on the other team.

All you have to do is think of it logically and see that up until the red card (again!) Barcelona looked clueless and that Madrid were very comfortable. How many clear cut chances did they have? Hardly any. There is a real possibility that last night could have ended up like when we played them at Arsenal. They dominated the ball for 80 minutes without really having that many chances, and once they started to tire we took advantage and punished them for it. It was shaping up to be exactly the same scenario last night and Madrid looked even more defensively comfortable than we did, and were preparing to bring on Kaka until the red card. So in reality, Madrid looked the more comfortable of the two sides and would have been more pleased about the result out of the two, up until yet another soft red card allows barcelona to ease their way back into the tie and take advantage of the extra man.
There was nothing wrong with Mourinho's tactics and it was the expected thing for a team playing at home in the first leg of a semi-final against Barcelona.

finally someone with some sense

MM99 wrote:

augie wrote:Revista de liga did a breakdown a few weeks ago of the various red cards his players have received against barca over the years and there was only one, yes just one, that you could consider to have been a harsh decision. He is being crafty by bring the chavs and us into the argument as well so that he might receive some support from these clubs when justice is being handed out to him and his players. Did he mention the offside goal his inter team scored last season v barca at the san siro ? Did he fcuk cos then it would fly against his conspiracy theory bullshit

Did they also count the amount of red cards barcelona players should have recieved for their theatrics and diving? Ok, we'll take your word for it that all but one of the red cards Madrid received was warranted, but what about the red cards barcelona players should have received? Does it record the number of times Alves/Busquets/Pedro/Xavi/Iniesta/Villa/literally any of their other players, should have been sent of for their persistent simulation and play acting? Alves was on a yellow card last night, and goes down like he's had his leg amputated, rolling around on the ground in agony, trying to get Pepe sent off, only for him to come sprinting back on in what i actually counted was less that 4 minutes. His antics deserved a yellow card for what he was truly doing was conning the ref into thinking he was badly injured and trying to get Pepe punished worse that he would have been if Alves had just got up and carried on with it. So that should be a second yellow and a red to Alves.

Pedro should have recieved a yellow card for the same reason when he climbed over the back of a madrid player and for some reason ended up on the floor clutching his face He was clearly trying to con the ref into thinking the madrid player had struck him in the face. He also should have been shown a yellow card for raising his hands to Marcello in the second half, so right there are two bookable offences that have gone unpunished. Messi's push towards the end of the match should have also been a yellow card and so should his late tackle near the touchline on the far side. Again, they go unpunished.

So yeah, Madrid may have deserved those red cards but do not let that cloud the fact that Barcelona should also be getting punished for their cheating and dirty play and yet somehow manage to never get a player sent off, or booked in some cases, even though they persistently adopt those tactics.

Has there ever been a more expensive team assembled than this madrid team ? He has some of the finist players playing the game in the world right now and granted he is playing the worlds best team but does he need to employ such anti football tactics ?

Firstly, having an expensive team consisting of world class players does not automatically equal you having a great team. The galacticos of Ronaldo, Figo, R.Carlos, Zidane etc... went 3 seasons wihout winning anything and are notorious for their underachievement.
So having some of the best players in the team does not necessarily make Real Madrid a great side that can all of a sudden overpower a Barcelona side that has been nurtured for years, with players who have played alongside each other for a decade and gelled and excelled together in the past 5 seasons.

This brings me onto the next issue that i have with your post. That somehow Mourinho's tactics were wrong, and he deserved the injustice because he dared to stifle Barcelona.

It seems as though you've forgotten that it was a CL Semi-Final and that away goals count a lot. So of course the team that plays at home in the first leg will be looking to go to the away tie without conceeding a goal. I would expect nothing less than an attempt to get a clean sheet and to then go to the second leg with the safety of your team getting an away goal and going through the tie. To expect Madrid to have done anything different to that is plain stupid. Why would Madrid attack in the first leg, leaving themselves open to conceeding 3 or 4 away goals, and effectively rule themselves out the tie, when the logical thing to do would be to keep barcelona's chances to a minimum and then travel to the Nou Camp where you know any goal that you score will be twice as effective and thus allow you to play a bit more attacking and put the pressure on the other team.

All you have to do is think of it logically and see that up until the red card (again!) Barcelona looked clueless and that Madrid were very comfortable. How many clear cut chances did they have? Hardly any. There is a real possibility that last night could have ended up like when we played them at Arsenal. They dominated the ball for 80 minutes without really having that many chances, and once they started to tire we took advantage and punished them for it. It was shaping up to be exactly the same scenario last night and Madrid looked even more defensively comfortable than we did, and were preparing to bring on Kaka until the red card. So in reality, Madrid looked the more comfortable of the two sides and would have been more pleased about the result out of the two, up until yet another soft red card allows barcelona to ease their way back into the tie and take advantage of the extra man.
There was nothing wrong with Mourinho's tactics and it was the expected thing for a team playing at home in the first leg of a semi-final against Barcelona.

Ofcourse, why would they do that? When you see how effective their other game plan was.

tinpot lane wrote:

MM99 wrote:

augie wrote:Revista de liga did a breakdown a few weeks ago of the various red cards his players have received against barca over the years and there was only one, yes just one, that you could consider to have been a harsh decision. He is being crafty by bring the chavs and us into the argument as well so that he might receive some support from these clubs when justice is being handed out to him and his players. Did he mention the offside goal his inter team scored last season v barca at the san siro ? Did he fcuk cos then it would fly against his conspiracy theory bullshit

Did they also count the amount of red cards barcelona players should have recieved for their theatrics and diving? Ok, we'll take your word for it that all but one of the red cards Madrid received was warranted, but what about the red cards barcelona players should have received? Does it record the number of times Alves/Busquets/Pedro/Xavi/Iniesta/Villa/literally any of their other players, should have been sent of for their persistent simulation and play acting? Alves was on a yellow card last night, and goes down like he's had his leg amputated, rolling around on the ground in agony, trying to get Pepe sent off, only for him to come sprinting back on in what i actually counted was less that 4 minutes. His antics deserved a yellow card for what he was truly doing was conning the ref into thinking he was badly injured and trying to get Pepe punished worse that he would have been if Alves had just got up and carried on with it. So that should be a second yellow and a red to Alves.

Pedro should have recieved a yellow card for the same reason when he climbed over the back of a madrid player and for some reason ended up on the floor clutching his face He was clearly trying to con the ref into thinking the madrid player had struck him in the face. He also should have been shown a yellow card for raising his hands to Marcello in the second half, so right there are two bookable offences that have gone unpunished. Messi's push towards the end of the match should have also been a yellow card and so should his late tackle near the touchline on the far side. Again, they go unpunished.

So yeah, Madrid may have deserved those red cards but do not let that cloud the fact that Barcelona should also be getting punished for their cheating and dirty play and yet somehow manage to never get a player sent off, or booked in some cases, even though they persistently adopt those tactics.

Has there ever been a more expensive team assembled than this madrid team ? He has some of the finist players playing the game in the world right now and granted he is playing the worlds best team but does he need to employ such anti football tactics ?

Firstly, having an expensive team consisting of world class players does not automatically equal you having a great team. The galacticos of Ronaldo, Figo, R.Carlos, Zidane etc... went 3 seasons wihout winning anything and are notorious for their underachievement.
So having some of the best players in the team does not necessarily make Real Madrid a great side that can all of a sudden overpower a Barcelona side that has been nurtured for years, with players who have played alongside each other for a decade and gelled and excelled together in the past 5 seasons.

This brings me onto the next issue that i have with your post. That somehow Mourinho's tactics were wrong, and he deserved the injustice because he dared to stifle Barcelona.

It seems as though you've forgotten that it was a CL Semi-Final and that away goals count a lot. So of course the team that plays at home in the first leg will be looking to go to the away tie without conceeding a goal. I would expect nothing less than an attempt to get a clean sheet and to then go to the second leg with the safety of your team getting an away goal and going through the tie. To expect Madrid to have done anything different to that is plain stupid. Why would Madrid attack in the first leg, leaving themselves open to conceeding 3 or 4 away goals, and effectively rule themselves out the tie, when the logical thing to do would be to keep barcelona's chances to a minimum and then travel to the Nou Camp where you know any goal that you score will be twice as effective and thus allow you to play a bit more attacking and put the pressure on the other team.

All you have to do is think of it logically and see that up until the red card (again!) Barcelona looked clueless and that Madrid were very comfortable. How many clear cut chances did they have? Hardly any. There is a real possibility that last night could have ended up like when we played them at Arsenal. They dominated the ball for 80 minutes without really having that many chances, and once they started to tire we took advantage and punished them for it. It was shaping up to be exactly the same scenario last night and Madrid looked even more defensively comfortable than we did, and were preparing to bring on Kaka until the red card. So in reality, Madrid looked the more comfortable of the two sides and would have been more pleased about the result out of the two, up until yet another soft red card allows barcelona to ease their way back into the tie and take advantage of the extra man.
There was nothing wrong with Mourinho's tactics and it was the expected thing for a team playing at home in the first leg of a semi-final against Barcelona.

Ofcourse, why would they do that? When you see how effective their other game plan was.

I thought their game plan was working perfectly up until the sending off. If anything they were beginning to look the more likely to score

LDB wrote:

tinpot lane wrote:

MM99 wrote:

augie wrote:Revista de liga did a breakdown a few weeks ago of the various red cards his players have received against barca over the years and there was only one, yes just one, that you could consider to have been a harsh decision. He is being crafty by bring the chavs and us into the argument as well so that he might receive some support from these clubs when justice is being handed out to him and his players. Did he mention the offside goal his inter team scored last season v barca at the san siro ? Did he fcuk cos then it would fly against his conspiracy theory bullshit

Did they also count the amount of red cards barcelona players should have recieved for their theatrics and diving? Ok, we'll take your word for it that all but one of the red cards Madrid received was warranted, but what about the red cards barcelona players should have received? Does it record the number of times Alves/Busquets/Pedro/Xavi/Iniesta/Villa/literally any of their other players, should have been sent of for their persistent simulation and play acting? Alves was on a yellow card last night, and goes down like he's had his leg amputated, rolling around on the ground in agony, trying to get Pepe sent off, only for him to come sprinting back on in what i actually counted was less that 4 minutes. His antics deserved a yellow card for what he was truly doing was conning the ref into thinking he was badly injured and trying to get Pepe punished worse that he would have been if Alves had just got up and carried on with it. So that should be a second yellow and a red to Alves.

Pedro should have recieved a yellow card for the same reason when he climbed over the back of a madrid player and for some reason ended up on the floor clutching his face He was clearly trying to con the ref into thinking the madrid player had struck him in the face. He also should have been shown a yellow card for raising his hands to Marcello in the second half, so right there are two bookable offences that have gone unpunished. Messi's push towards the end of the match should have also been a yellow card and so should his late tackle near the touchline on the far side. Again, they go unpunished.

So yeah, Madrid may have deserved those red cards but do not let that cloud the fact that Barcelona should also be getting punished for their cheating and dirty play and yet somehow manage to never get a player sent off, or booked in some cases, even though they persistently adopt those tactics.

Has there ever been a more expensive team assembled than this madrid team ? He has some of the finist players playing the game in the world right now and granted he is playing the worlds best team but does he need to employ such anti football tactics ?

Firstly, having an expensive team consisting of world class players does not automatically equal you having a great team. The galacticos of Ronaldo, Figo, R.Carlos, Zidane etc... went 3 seasons wihout winning anything and are notorious for their underachievement.
So having some of the best players in the team does not necessarily make Real Madrid a great side that can all of a sudden overpower a Barcelona side that has been nurtured for years, with players who have played alongside each other for a decade and gelled and excelled together in the past 5 seasons.

This brings me onto the next issue that i have with your post. That somehow Mourinho's tactics were wrong, and he deserved the injustice because he dared to stifle Barcelona.

It seems as though you've forgotten that it was a CL Semi-Final and that away goals count a lot. So of course the team that plays at home in the first leg will be looking to go to the away tie without conceeding a goal. I would expect nothing less than an attempt to get a clean sheet and to then go to the second leg with the safety of your team getting an away goal and going through the tie. To expect Madrid to have done anything different to that is plain stupid. Why would Madrid attack in the first leg, leaving themselves open to conceeding 3 or 4 away goals, and effectively rule themselves out the tie, when the logical thing to do would be to keep barcelona's chances to a minimum and then travel to the Nou Camp where you know any goal that you score will be twice as effective and thus allow you to play a bit more attacking and put the pressure on the other team.

All you have to do is think of it logically and see that up until the red card (again!) Barcelona looked clueless and that Madrid were very comfortable. How many clear cut chances did they have? Hardly any. There is a real possibility that last night could have ended up like when we played them at Arsenal. They dominated the ball for 80 minutes without really having that many chances, and once they started to tire we took advantage and punished them for it. It was shaping up to be exactly the same scenario last night and Madrid looked even more defensively comfortable than we did, and were preparing to bring on Kaka until the red card. So in reality, Madrid looked the more comfortable of the two sides and would have been more pleased about the result out of the two, up until yet another soft red card allows barcelona to ease their way back into the tie and take advantage of the extra man.
There was nothing wrong with Mourinho's tactics and it was the expected thing for a team playing at home in the first leg of a semi-final against Barcelona.

Ofcourse, why would they do that? When you see how effective their other game plan was.

I thought their game plan was working perfectly up until the sending off. If anything they were beginning to look the more likely to score

Pretty pointless if it doesn't last for the entire game though.

I dont care how talented Barca are as a team, they sell their soul to the devil carrying on as they do working the ref. I won money on that lot last night but still felt sick watching the pathetic carry on of faking and cheating a victory. The world is watching the game and still they have no shame as long as the win is theirs.
I am thankful that our league is slightly more authentic than that shite every other week.
Wankers the lot of em...

worthing gooner wrote:I dont care how talented Barca are as a team, they sell their soul to the devil carrying on as they do working the ref. I won money on that lot last night but still felt sick watching the pathetic carry on of faking and cheating a victory. The world is watching the game and still they have no shame as long as the win is theirs.

Totally agree mate

The only way to beat Barca is to kick them all over the pitch and the only way for Barca to respond is to dive and ask cards to the referee. At the end of the day, Barcelona was the better team on the picth, they weren't great but tried to play football, and it's good for football they won.
Mourinho got it all wrong, he thought the referee will let them do what they want like in the spanish cup final, he thinks everybody do what he wants (because he thinks he's god or something). But again, he didn't find a solution to solve the problems Messi and Barca caused to Real.

Vince wrote:The only way to beat Barca is to kick them all over the pitch and the only way for Barca to respond is to dive and ask cards to the referee. At the end of the day, Barcelona was the better team on the picth, they weren't great but tried to play football, and it's good for football they won.
Mourinho got it all wrong, he thought the referee will let them do what they want like in the spanish cup final, he thinks everybody do what he wants (because he thinks he's god or something). But again, he didn't find a solution to solve the problems Messi and Barca caused to Real.

Is that what we did at the Camp Nou? RVP kicked the ball 1 second after the whistle had gone then the ref was surrounded again by players demanding a red. Leaves a sour taste in the mouth this lot..

augie wrote:I'm sorry but a lot of that statement from moaninho is a load of bollox but as long as it festers the siege mentality with his players and keeps the madrid press from dissecting his woefully negative tactics then it will have done its job

Revista de liga did a breakdown a few weeks ago of the various red cards his players have received against barca over the years and there was only one, yes just one, that you could consider to have been a harsh decision. He is being crafty by bring the chavs and us into the argument as well so that he might receive some support from these clubs when justice is being handed out to him and his players. Did he mention the offside goal his inter team scored last season v barca at the san siro ? Did he fcuk cos then it would fly against his conspiracy theory bullshit

The portugese c**t has made a successful career by creating teams stopping their opponents playing football. In true hypocritical fashion he complained when the scum did it to him at the bridge shithole a few years ago but thinks nothing of employing those very same tactics himself

Has there ever been a more expensive team assembled than this madrid team ? He has some of the finist players playing the game in the world right now and granted he is playing the worlds best team but does he need to employ such anti football tactics ? It is all very well using these tactics when talking about a david v goliath match up but that aint the case here Ronaldo, alonso, kaka, casillas, higuain are all top quality players and would it not be reasonable to expect a tactical genius (like moaninho is meant to be) to get the maximum out of them ? He then has the cheek to claim that barca have all the power and that madrid have no chance ? That statement along with his tactics v barca in the last 3 weeks is right up there with wenger's happy to take 2nd place remark for sending a defeatist message to your players

Sorry but you're wrong. Mourinho had a plan (tactics you know some teams use them) against the best team in the world and it failed due to the sending off. His tactic was to close up shop for the first 60 minutes then when Barca get tired bring on Adebayor and Higuain and have a go towards the end of the game.

''We had the intention to keep the game at 0-0, then bring on a striker, then a third phase with a No. 10 behind three forwards. But the ref didn't allow it.''

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:

goonersid wrote:Barca are a shower of cheating diving whores. Alves makes Ronaldo look like an honest player, he really is a disgrace to the game. Yet again a controversial decision goes their way when they needed it, coincidence? I don't think so.
Platini and co weren't going to allow their golden boys to be dumped out of the comp by anyone this season, (including us)
Now I will get slated for this, but I hope Utd beat the barca whores, in the final. It won't give me pleasure to see utd win, but it sure as fuck will give me great satisfaction to see those Barca c**ts get beaten.

I agree with this 100%. Barca are the dirtiest cheatingest fucking scum of a team i have ever watched. More than a club is fucking right. Alves, Busquets, and Pedro should never be allowed to play again. I also agreed with what Mourinho said in his interview after the game. Barca DO get EVERY FUCKING ADVANTAGE from the refs. Chelsea 3 years ago? Against us this year? Yesterday? They are the media darlings and i am fed up with the bullshit.

And those who are saying Barca deserved to win because Madrid were playing defensive, GET YOU HEAD OUT OF YOUR OWN WENGER-PHILOSOPHY ASS. There is more to winning football games than tippy tappy passing with 80% possession. I do believe JM has beaten Barca before with defensive tactics so he knows wtf he is doing. Once again the referee played right into those diving cheating c**ts hands. And it all stems from their little pussy bitch manager. Fucking faggot.

Regardless of how you feel about United at least they are not rolling around holding their faces when they get bumped in the chest. I try and get people to watch football matches over here by saying, hey look at this Barca team play, theyre really good. Then last nights (and the last couple seasons) antics happen and my friends are like what the fuck is this fairy pussy shit. I cant disagree.

Exactly, couldn't have described barca and their BS any better.

I only hope Wenger does not think he's discovered a way for his Barca light principles to be advanced by adding diving theatrics to the mix (Don't mention Eboue)

I truly do not like Man U, but for the first time ever, will be hoping they win if both get to the final.

The thing that makes me laugh the most about those defending Madrids behaviour or tactics, whatever you want to call it...is they are probably the same people who throw a fit when the likes of Bolton, Stoke and Blackburn get a bit heavy handed with us... and our players are chasing the ref around waving cards and rolling around on the floor...and our manager is having a breakdown letting rip at the fourth official...

What makes it worse is what Madrid did last night was a far more organised and deliberate thuggery and killing of anything that resembled football than anything the three teams mentioned above could have mustered or would have wanted to.... and had Madrid done the same to us the outrage would have been unanimous and extreme...

Strachan was right commenting on the game...Mourinho will do anything to win...and by anything he really did mean anything.. After having quite a high opinion of him previously i now see him as no more than an egomaniac nutcase who is about as good for football as Hitler was for race relations ...