The Board-Finance-Kroenke

[Nos89]

Quartz

Hold your horses at no point did I state a dislike for Darren Dein, or that he had an agenda for selling our best players. I merely pointed out, the same as you, in that as the players agent he played a role in their moves away from the club. I also didn't suggest there was collusion between father and son to dismember AFC. That was your assumption.

I'm stating my opinion that Dein has done his bit for AFC, and that a new person take control of the board, to move the club to the stellar level which we are capable of achieving.

Now, back to the current board and Wenger...how long before we sign a world class goalkeeper, defender and defensive midfielder??? January? next summer? next week??

[franksav63]

I don't know enough about the ins and outs (can't even remember the coffee stuff)
my feeling at the time was that he was forcing a move through for one last payday
he's basically on Messi/Ronaldo money there - we weren't ever gonna do that
but if we'd matched what was on offer I guess he'd have had a 'conversion' just like Gerrard and Rooney...

RVP was offered 300K a week to go to Man City but went to Man U for less money.... I for one loved what he said at the time and a year down the line I still like what he said, good for him he told it as it was!!

[donaldo]

I don't know enough about the ins and outs (can't even remember the coffee stuff)
my feeling at the time was that he was forcing a move through for one last payday
he's basically on Messi/Ronaldo money there - we weren't ever gonna do that
but if we'd matched what was on offer I guess he'd have had a 'conversion' just like Gerrard and Rooney...

RVP was offered 300K a week to go to Man City but went to Man U for less money.... I for one loved what he said at the time and a year down the line I still like what he said, good for him he told it as it was!!

Frank

You might as well bang your head against a brick wall.Some of our fans refuse to believe RVP turned down a £100k a week to join Utd rather than Citeh.We only offered him £130k Citeh offered him £300k

[georgeknows89]

Back to buying , the harsh reality is that if a good quality player wants to leave a club then we will currently be at least
6th choice unless it is pure personal reasons.

If it is say just for the admiration/ love of Wenger , then with him officially in his last year of contract then why would someone join just for him with a possibility/probability that he might not be here next year to help that guy develop and fulfil his potential ?

If as a minimum RM, Barca, PSG, Citheh ,Utd or Chelski want someone, we have no chance really.The old days of london as opposed to manchester meaning only us has been eroded by Chelski and some will also now argue that a Spurz move has more longer term potential for a player.

This all means that even with the money in the bank, we have to be even better quicker smarter with our strategy and structure than we have ever been , and we are not and won't be until a big overall and culture change from the ownership/board down takes place.

[georgeknows89]

sorry 7th choice minimum

[QuartzGooner]

Quartz

Hold your horses at no point did I state a dislike for Darren Dein, or that he had an agenda for selling our best players. I merely pointed out, the same as you, in that as the players agent he played a role in their moves away from the club. I also didn't suggest there was collusion between father and son to dismember AFC. That was your assumption.

You said Darren Dein was involved in "Engineering" the moves of players away from the club.
That reads to me as if you accuse him of deliberately prising players from Arsenal, unlike me who has said he was acting as an agent in moves that were going to happen anyway.

If you did not mean the former, then OK, but a lot of bloggers and some journalists have taken that line.

I never said that you suggested David Dein was trying to weaken the club.

[augie]

Gazidas is certainly in part responsible for the malaise within our club but right now I am embarrassed at the hate being vented his way - do people believe that it was the smarmy yank that refused to meet the asking price and wages on higuain and/or Gustavo ? Wenker is THE transfer power within our club and it is he who decides who we persue, how much we offer and how much wages we will then pay and this is something the old c.unt confirmed himself ffs People can say that gazidas shouldn't have gone public with our large transfer kitty declaration but has that really stopped wenger BUYING even 1 player ? You can argue that prices went up as a result but worst case scenario it would mean that we could only sign 3 players instead of four but to not sign any ......?

Wenker is a c.unt and of that there is no doubt and everyday he is knocking down our club a little more - when he eventually goes then we can focus on getting shot of the other c.unts on the board but right now he is the one who should be targetted

[Top Londoner]

Gazidas is certainly in part responsible for the malaise within our club but right now I am embarrassed at the hate being vented his way - do people believe that it was the smarmy yank that refused to meet the asking price and wages on higuain and/or Gustavo ? Wenker is THE transfer power within our club and it is he who decides who we persue, how much we offer and how much wages we will then pay and this is something the old c.unt confirmed himself ffs People can say that gazidas shouldn't have gone public with our large transfer kitty declaration but has that really stopped wenger BUYING even 1 player ? You can argue that prices went up as a result but worst case scenario it would mean that we could only sign 3 players instead of four but to not sign any ......?

Wenker is a c.unt and of that there is no doubt and everyday he is knocking down our club a little more - when he eventually goes then we can focus on getting shot of the other c.unts on the board but right now he is the one who should be targetted

sorry augie, but the huge majority cannot all be wrong. Can they?
You are suggesting that the cancer that is eating away at the heart of our club is ONLY the responsibility of ONE person.
Meh !!!!



















calm down, it's only an Hadvert

[Nos89]

Quartz

Hold your horses at no point did I state a dislike for Darren Dein, or that he had an agenda for selling our best players. I merely pointed out, the same as you, in that as the players agent he played a role in their moves away from the club. I also didn't suggest there was collusion between father and son to dismember AFC. That was your assumption.

You said Darren Dein was involved in "Engineering" the moves of players away from the club.
That reads to me as if you accuse him of deliberately prising players from Arsenal, unlike me who has said he was acting as an agent in moves that were going to happen anyway.

If you did not mean the former, then OK, but a lot of bloggers and some journalists have taken that line.

I never said that you suggested David Dein was trying to weaken the club.

"engineering" as their agent. It's quite clear why cesc, RvP and to certain extent Henry left. One thing for sure neither dein can have fingers pointed at them for our current predicament. Just who is the guy that negotiates and seals the deals for new players? Ken Friar took over from Dein, whilst wenger and gazides have a final say they don't do the talking to player/ agents but who sets up the deal as a "director of football" role? I'd love to hear what he has to say.

[Red Gunner]

Arsenal's Lady Bracewell-Smith regrets her sell-out to Stan Kroenke

If Arsène Wenger, Ivan Gazidis and Arsenal's other powerbrokers thought angry reactions to this defeat were restricted to the club's supporters, and particularly those who chanted "spend some money" after Aston Villa had scored their third goal here, they would be wrong. For dissent is also coming from above, with the club's honorary vice-director, Lady Bracewell-Smith, also demanding change at the Emirates.

"Bring Davie Dein [back] and give [Alisher] Usmanov representation on the board if we are to have success going forward," tweeted Bracewell-Smith on Sunday night, having also expressed her "regret" at selling her 15.9% stake in the club to Stan Kroenke in April 2011 and allowing the American to become Arsenal's majority shareholder ("And how deeply I regret selling to Kroenke").

Criticism from the 57-year-old is not new – in June 2011 she called for the board to go, describing it as "passé" – but an intervention from a figure of clout, and particularly one containing the fans-pleasing call for Dein to return and the Kroenke-baiting desire to see Usmanov given influence at the club, is not what Wenger, in particular, would have wanted after a defeat which turned the Emirates into an arena crackling with anger and despair.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ier-league

[northbank123]

Suffice to say the greedy bitch can fuck right off. Tens of thousands of fans would love the chance to ensure that the club is safeguarded and run properly but after marrying into her shares she sold this privilege to the bloke who is passively overseeing this shambles. Doesn't deserve a voice.

[augie]

Suffice to say the greedy bitch can fuck right off. Tens of thousands of fans would love the chance to ensure that the club is safeguarded and run properly but after marrying into her shares she sold this privilege to the bloke who is passively overseeing this shambles. Doesn't deserve a voice.

Wasnt she hounded/squeezed out of the club ? Cant say for sure but I thought that I remember a story at the time that suggested that the c.unt owner and bigger c.unt phw forced her from the board

[highburyJD]

Nobody forced her to sell up

[DB10GOONER]

Suffice to say the greedy bitch can fuck right off. Tens of thousands of fans would love the chance to ensure that the club is safeguarded and run properly but after marrying into her shares she sold this privilege to the bloke who is passively overseeing this shambles. Doesn't deserve a voice.

Wasnt she hounded/squeezed out of the club ? Cant say for sure but I thought that I remember a story at the time that suggested that the c.unt owner and bigger c.unt phw forced her from the board

That's the story that went round alright. But how can anyone actually hound you into selling something you own? She could have (should have) just said "fuck off". I agree with NB123 - it's a bit rich of this rich bitch moaning now after she made millions from selling her shares. She can fuck off.

[georgeknows89]

Nina was offered the same money from Usmanov so the sale of shares at that price was never in doubt, it was a case of who she sold to .....