Buy back Cesc Fabregas, or let Man Utd buy him?

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flash gunner wrote:Is Cesc better than what we currently have? If the answer is yes then fucking buy him back you tight *word censored*


That's what football is about trying to improve your team year on year. It's not a project or some untouchable managers plaything. Buy better players year after year and soon enough you'll have a team capable of winning things. Simple isn't it?
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Have I missed something and Barcelona have accepted an offer or said he's available?? Clubs are entitled to bid for who they want but it doesn't mean anything....

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kiwomya wrote:Have I missed something and Barcelona have accepted an offer or said he's available?? Clubs are entitled to bid for who they want but it doesn't mean anything....
Can't remember exactly who but someone commenting on this raised the issue that he felt, with prior knowledge of how man u work, they wouldn't make a bid if there wasn't some indication that Barcelona may be tempted to sell and/or Fabregas was open to the idea of moving there.

As it is, he's not coming back to Arsenal and why would he? Barely anything has changed. If I was him and wanted to move away from Barcelona, then man u is as good as anywhere.

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kiwomya wrote:Have I missed something and Barcelona have accepted an offer or said he's available?? Clubs are entitled to bid for who they want but it doesn't mean anything....
No, you've not missed any official statement that he's available - but they're rare at the best of times, and I don't think Arsenal ever officially said Van Persie, Cesc or Nasri were available either, did they? - in fact, Wenger was denying they would be sold almost to the moment they departed. :oops: :lol:

Football is rarely that transparent. The press certainly knew there was something going on with Cesc, Nasri and RVP, and obviously so did the clubs who ended up buying them. Agents talk, so if Cesc or Barca want this to happen, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if United were the team they'd contact.

Anyway, if we can't have him, then hopefully he stays at Barca. The thought of RvP in a United shirt is bad enough... but Cesc?! :cry:

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with some investment on our part I think a Fergieless ManUre could be catchable
they'd be long gone over the horizon with Cesc in their team - we simply can't let that happen

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kiwomya wrote:Have I missed something and Barcelona have accepted an offer or said he's available?? Clubs are entitled to bid for who they want but it doesn't mean anything....
They haven't literally said "Cesc is available" but look at what Vilanova said:

""I know he has received offers from other teams," said Vilanova.

"But Cesc has told me he wants to stay here. He has told me it is his dream to stay with Barcelona."

Vilanova added: "He doesn't want to go to other teams for money reasons or playing time. He knows there is competition for places here, but his decision is to stay. I am relaxed about the situation."" (Source)


Vilanova could have said that Barcelona aren't selling their best players (the standard procedure*) but he said that Cesc himself said that he wants to stay, so it looks like Barcelona are letting Cesc decide his fate. That makes me think they would sell him for the right price. Considering Thiago's recent departure and Xavi's age, I'm as surprised as anyone about this.

*"Imagine the worst situation - we lose Fabregas and Nasri. You cannot convince people you are ambitious after that. You cannot pretend you are a big club. A big club holds onto its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they just cannot come in and take [players] away from you." - Arsene Wenger :oops: :lol:

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get Gustavo from B.M.or Bender form Leverkusen.....instead or bringing Cesc...he won't be at his best playing for us, because he has lost his passion/motivation for the club..so be it.also it would not allow Jack to progress in midtfield...there is not room for both...

love him anyway..except if he went to another Pl club...

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manninger wrote:get Gustavo from B.M.or Bender form Leverkusen.....instead or bringing Cesc...he won't be at his best playing for us, because he has lost his passion/motivation for the club..so be it.also it would not allow Jack to progress in midtfield...there is not room for both...

love him anyway..except if he went to another Pl club...
Really? :? :? Because weren't they both playing for the side at the same time before Jack got injured and Cesc left? :rubchin: Indeed, didn't they both combine beautifully in the win against Barca and in setting up the Arshavin goal? :rubchin: :rubchin:

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I Hate Hleb wrote:
manninger wrote:get Gustavo from B.M.or Bender form Leverkusen.....instead or bringing Cesc...he won't be at his best playing for us, because he has lost his passion/motivation for the club..so be it.also it would not allow Jack to progress in midtfield...there is not room for both...

love him anyway..except if he went to another Pl club...
Really? :? :? Because wasn't they both playing for the side at the same time before Jack got injured and Cesc left? :rubchin: Indeed, didn't they both combine beautifully to set up the winning Arshavin goal against Barca? :rubchin: :rubchin:
I can't see why Cesc and Jack wouldn't be able to play in one side either. Iniesta and Xavi never got in each other's way for Barcelona and Spain, why would Cesc and Jack? Also I don't buy the "he lost his passion/motivation" argument. Thierry Henry left Arsenal and after he returned on a loan, this goal celebration happened:

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If Cesc returned, I'm sure that he would always give 100%.

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Red Gunner wrote: If Cesc returned, I'm sure that he would always give 100%.
He would - he always did and always will.

That said, I'd be surprised if he genuinely wanted to return to Arsenal at this point in his career. But I'd like to be proved wrong (please!).

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As a big cesc fan I am wondering what the reaction will be if he does become available and he turns us down to join manure - some like me will see it as a confirmation that the reason he left us early was that he knew that we were no longer gonna challenge for trophies under wenger, but no doubt some fans would view it as a betrayal akin to that of rvp :roll: Would actually start a poll on this to gauge fans reactions but if it isnt likely to happen then what would be the point ?

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This must surely be a final slap in the face to any Wenger worshippers if Cesc goes to Man U. Even though we've got first refusal on him, the signs are we're not even going in for him, I wonder why? Could it be that he's already indicated he won't be rejoining so the club doesn't want to lose face? He saw the signs 2 years ago when he left, the the signs are still there, bigger and larger, that we're just a bunch of losers, with a rag tag mob of average players save for 1 or 2 who are slightly above average.

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let's not get all Kalou furious here. There's no way Cesc will go to ManUre.

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franksav63 wrote:This must surely be a final slap in the face to any Wenger worshippers if Cesc goes to Man U. Even though we've got first refusal on him, the signs are we're not even going in for him, I wonder why? Could it be that he's already indicated he won't be rejoining so the club doesn't want to lose face? He saw the signs 2 years ago when he left, the the signs are still there, bigger and larger, that we're just a bunch of losers, with a rag tag mob of average players save for 1 or 2 who are slightly above average.


But how can it save face frank ? If wenger goes in for him and is turned down then it will be a huge public rebuke but if he sits back and does nothing as cesc goes to manure then I think the stadium will be burnt to the ground with rioting fans 8) I would think that wenker getting knocked back would be the lesser of two evils for our c.unt in charge :roll:

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Cesc probably isn't super quality enough for Wenger. Besides, we'll have Diaby back soon which is just like a new signing.

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