As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Looks like this is becoming the popcorn thread. I wonder what the equivalent would have been in the 90s.
Alan Smith maybe, when he stopped scoring?
Not fair on smudger at least he had given sterling service. I'm too young to know any flack he got but know and recall him contributing.
John jensen perhaps? I was there.
Scored in a final once rest of his career very meh and we expected more? But then i dont think anyone has any expectations of havertz as we have all seen enough to judge.
Thing is I wouldn't have such an issue if he a, wasn't shoehorned in and disrupting everything, b, wasn't getting game time ahead of the likes of esr.
Were he introduced off the bench gradually I'd have more patience...to stick him in thr first xi change everything to do so is ok if the player is a star and has an instant impact, nothing suggests or suggested he would.
Likewise I'd be ok with changing things around if the player coming in had shown ability before and had an impact as ESR has for example.
But to parachute this gormless dud in is really irritating.
I know it's not his fault it's the manager for signing mad playing him, but I just don't like anything about him ,irrationally, even his funny appearance and the attitude or lack of he gives off wind me up.
Much as ozil did I guess for many on here I guess commenting on his feldman looks and perceived lack of effort, not that I was one of them.
Looks like this is becoming the popcorn thread. I wonder what the equivalent would have been in the 90s.
Alan Smith maybe, when he stopped scoring?
That's a bit OTT Nutty, although I know you are not having a pop at Smudge but rather the punters on here.
But I think you do the forum a disservice. Most of the members are old school Arsenal. Smudger was a superb player and gave years of sterling service without getting the hysterical praise his striking partners often got - but he was always appreciated by the true fans. Even when he went off the goals he'd work his ass off and play intelligently with those around him.
Even late in his Arsenal career he had the cajones to step up and bang the winner in the CWC Final which at the time was a massive goal for Arsenal. Legend.
Looks like this is becoming the popcorn thread. I wonder what the equivalent would have been in the 90s.
Alan Smith maybe, when he stopped scoring?
Not fair on smudger at least he had given sterling service. I'm too young to know any flack he got but know and recall him contributing.
John jensen perhaps? I was there.
Scored in a final once rest of his career very meh and we expected more? But then i dont think anyone has any expectations of havertz as we have all seen enough to judge.
Thing is I wouldn't have such an issue if he a, wasn't shoehorned in and disrupting everything, b, wasn't getting game time ahead of the likes of esr.
Were he introduced off the bench gradually I'd have more patience...to stick him in thr first xi change everything to do so is ok if the player is a star and has an instant impact, nothing suggests or suggested he would.
Likewise I'd be ok with changing things around if the player coming in had shown ability before and had an impact as ESR has for example.
But to parachute this gormless dud in is really irritating.
I know it's not his fault it's the manager for signing mad playing him, but I just don't like anything about him ,irrationally, even his funny appearance and the attitude or lack of he gives off wind me up.
Much as ozil did I guess for many on here I guess commenting on his feldman looks and perceived lack of effort, not that I was one of them.
As I said previously, to his credit he does stick to the opposition when they have the ball in their half. Breaks up any prospect of them having a counter attack etc.
He’s sort of like one of those inflatable waves arm things you see outside car showrooms. Limbs fucking everywhere, without purpose.
As I said previously, to his credit he does stick to the opposition when they have the ball in their half. Breaks up any prospect of them having a counter attack etc.
He’s sort of like one of those inflatable waves arm things you see outside car showrooms. Limbs fucking everywhere, without purpose.
Looks like this is becoming the popcorn thread. I wonder what the equivalent would have been in the 90s.
Alan Smith maybe, when he stopped scoring?
That's a bit OTT Nutty, although I know you are not having a pop at Smudge but rather the punters on here.
But I think you do the forum a disservice. Most of the members are old school Arsenal. Smudger was a superb player and gave years of sterling service without getting the hysterical praise his striking partners often got - but he was always appreciated by the true fans. Even when he went off the goals he'd work his ass off and play intelligently with those around him.
Even late in his Arsenal career he had the cajones to step up and bang the winner in the CWC Final which at the time was a massive goal for Arsenal. Legend.
After 1991, Smith hardly scored a goal for Arsenal. Had social media been around he would have been slaughtered for 4 years no doubt.
I remember standing and sitting in the North Bank with many moaning voices, not just about Smith but Campbell and Paul Davis, perhaps Augie was in my vicinity in those days!
Looks like this is becoming the popcorn thread. I wonder what the equivalent would have been in the 90s.
Alan Smith maybe, when he stopped scoring?
That's a bit OTT Nutty, although I know you are not having a pop at Smudge but rather the punters on here.
But I think you do the forum a disservice. Most of the members are old school Arsenal. Smudger was a superb player and gave years of sterling service without getting the hysterical praise his striking partners often got - but he was always appreciated by the true fans. Even when he went off the goals he'd work his ass off and play intelligently with those around him.
Even late in his Arsenal career he had the cajones to step up and bang the winner in the CWC Final which at the time was a massive goal for Arsenal. Legend.
After 1991, Smith hardly scored a goal for Arsenal. Had social media been around he would have been slaughtered for 4 years no doubt.
I remember standing and sitting in the North Bank with many moaning voices, not just about Smith but Campbell and Paul Davis, perhaps Augie was in my vicinity in those days!
His output of goals certainly diminished once Wrighty came onboard, he was in many ways the sacrificial lamb, becoming the target man, holder up, lay it off for Wright to grab the glory.
I think his contribution to the team was still valued to those who actually bothered to watch - if you go by stats alone then I’m sure some would pick fault.
He is exactly the player we would want in this current set up
Ariel threat for set pieces and crosses
Good technique, ability to shield, lay off, play other players in
Team player - happy to do his job for the benefit of the team
Quiet, unobtrusive, the type of player that never unsettles the dressing room due to ego.
Looks like this is becoming the popcorn thread. I wonder what the equivalent would have been in the 90s.
Alan Smith maybe, when he stopped scoring?
That's a bit OTT Nutty, although I know you are not having a pop at Smudge but rather the punters on here.
But I think you do the forum a disservice. Most of the members are old school Arsenal. Smudger was a superb player and gave years of sterling service without getting the hysterical praise his striking partners often got - but he was always appreciated by the true fans. Even when he went off the goals he'd work his ass off and play intelligently with those around him.
Even late in his Arsenal career he had the cajones to step up and bang the winner in the CWC Final which at the time was a massive goal for Arsenal. Legend.
After 1991, Smith hardly scored a goal for Arsenal. Had social media been around he would have been slaughtered for 4 years no doubt.
I remember standing and sitting in the North Bank with many moaning voices, not just about Smith but Campbell and Paul Davis, perhaps Augie was in my vicinity in those days!
His output of goals certainly diminished once Wrighty came onboard, he was in many ways the sacrificial lamb, becoming the target man, holder up, lay it off for Wright to grab the glory.
I think his contribution to the team was still valued to those who actually bothered to watch - if you go by stats alone then I’m sure some would pick fault.
He is exactly the player we would want in this current set up
Ariel threat for set pieces and crosses
Good technique, ability to shield, lay off, play other players in
Team player - happy to do his job for the benefit of the team
Quiet, unobtrusive, the type of player that never unsettles the dressing room due to ego.
Thanks Stuart, saved me typing that response.
Nutty, please accept the above as the bulk of my response old chap.
But I'd also add that, in a strange way you've proven my point about this forum. It is like a football pub, or a concourse, or a terrace, but online instead: it's where supporters can come to have a laugh, discuss the team etc, and, just like those aforementioned places, have a moan! Which is why I can never understand why you and a couple others get so upset when people do that. It is, and always has been a part of the culture of the game with all clubs' fans.
Looks like this is becoming the popcorn thread. I wonder what the equivalent would have been in the 90s.
Alan Smith maybe, when he stopped scoring?
That's a bit OTT Nutty, although I know you are not having a pop at Smudge but rather the punters on here.
But I think you do the forum a disservice. Most of the members are old school Arsenal. Smudger was a superb player and gave years of sterling service without getting the hysterical praise his striking partners often got - but he was always appreciated by the true fans. Even when he went off the goals he'd work his ass off and play intelligently with those around him.
Even late in his Arsenal career he had the cajones to step up and bang the winner in the CWC Final which at the time was a massive goal for Arsenal. Legend.
After 1991, Smith hardly scored a goal for Arsenal. Had social media been around he would have been slaughtered for 4 years no doubt.
I remember standing and sitting in the North Bank with many moaning voices, not just about Smith but Campbell and Paul Davis, perhaps Augie was in my vicinity in those days!
His output of goals certainly diminished once Wrighty came onboard, he was in many ways the sacrificial lamb, becoming the target man, holder up, lay it off for Wright to grab the glory.
I think his contribution to the team was still valued to those who actually bothered to watch - if you go by stats alone then I’m sure some would pick fault.
He is exactly the player we would want in this current set up
Ariel threat for set pieces and crosses
Good technique, ability to shield, lay off, play other players in
Team player - happy to do his job for the benefit of the team
Quiet, unobtrusive, the type of player that never unsettles the dressing room due to ego.
Thanks Stuart, saved me typing that response.
Nutty, please accept the above as the bulk of my response old chap.
But I'd also add that, in a strange way you've proven my point about this forum. It is like a football pub, or a concourse, or a terrace, but online instead: it's where supporters can come to have a laugh, discuss the team etc, and, just like those aforementioned places, have a moan! Which is why I can never understand why you and a couple others get so upset when people do that. It is, and always has been a part of the culture of the game with all clubs' fans.
I am not for one minute demeaning Smith's contribution to the team or Campbells/Davis.
It's not rocket science is it? Havertz is NOT a striker, never will be. Basic mistakes being made by a lot of 'experienced' people!!
I reckon he's got 2 more games to show something worthwhile, after that Arteta is going to find it very difficult to justify picking him when Trossard, ESR and Fab(ulous) Vieira are waiting in the wings!!
Klive starts upfront. No shots, no goals, no assists.
Sound familiar?
The Germany manager has now been sacked. Warning to Arteta - don’t make the same mistake he did
Too late.
In fairness, he's not playing him up front as such...he's playing in the advanced centre mid role that Xhaka played last season, a little further left than central. This is exactly the position that all those that defended the decision to buy him were talking about. They told us that Chelsea had been playing him up front, which wasn't really his position and that he was an attacking midfielder at Leverkusen. So, no excuses, we ought to be seeing a positive influence any day now. Arteta Knows.
Klive starts upfront. No shots, no goals, no assists.
Sound familiar?
The Germany manager has now been sacked. Warning to Arteta - don’t make the same mistake he did
Too late.
In fairness, he's not playing him up front as such...he's playing in the advanced centre mid role that Xhaka played last season, a little further left than central. This is exactly the position that all those that defended the decision to buy him were talking about. They told us that Chelsea had been playing him up front, which wasn't really his position and that he was an attacking midfielder at Leverkusen. So, no excuses, we ought to be seeing a positive influence any day now. Arteta Knows.
