THE WENGER THREAD

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augie wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
Ikechukwu1 wrote:
Mind you he isn't alone. Dixon, totally gutless.
These guys respect Wenger for what he did for them and still have to actually meet him from time to time, there is such as thing as tact.

Dixon in Amy Lawrence's book has subtly criticised Wenger's defensive coaching without openly criticising it...diplomatic skill there from our fourth most capped player.

Said Wenger did not coach defence but set up an atmosphere where good defensive skills were passed on, his example was of how Cole was mentored by Adams.

Of course, these skills have by now largely dissipated, and we can read between the lines.....

One mans tact is another mans cowardice quartz - Dixon is a pundit now and as such he is paid to give an honest analysis of what he see's, and if he is afraid to do so then he should consider a career change :x
How can you accuse a man who put his body on the line over 600 times for us of cowardice?
If you'll pardon the pun our ex-right back has to exercise a certain adroitness with regards to the club.

It is not impossible that he could be asked back to work as a coach or a tour host or in a corporate capacity.
He needs to be able to walk round the stadium and speak to people and find out what is going on and turn up at press conferences without being banned, he may even need to phone up Wenger on occasion.

With his Lawrence book interview he has damned Wenger and let the fans know what is going on, but very cleverly and subtly.

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augie wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
Ikechukwu1 wrote:
Mind you he isn't alone. Dixon, totally gutless.
These guys respect Wenger for what he did for them and still have to actually meet him from time to time, there is such as thing as tact.

Dixon in Amy Lawrence's book has subtly criticised Wenger's defensive coaching without openly criticising it...diplomatic skill there from our fourth most capped player.

Said Wenger did not coach defence but set up an atmosphere where good defensive skills were passed on, his example was of how Cole was mentored by Adams.

Of course, these skills have by now largely dissipated, and we can read between the lines.....

One mans tact is another mans cowardice quartz - Dixon is a pundit now and as such he is paid to give an honest analysis of what he see's, and if he is afraid to do so then he should consider a career change :x
They are all at the feeding trough as well - they all do various media stints and get all sorts of freenies not only at The bowl - But through the media contacts that attend interviews etc etc at and for Arsenal FC


Loyalty is one thing - Total fucking Bullshit lies is another.....


What wengercunt has now achieved is that he has not only set Gooner against Gooner but our (Past) Heroes - are coing out with all their bollocks and lies because of the debt they feel they owe the inept senile *word censored* - and so further damaging the bonds we Gooners have/had with them.....

Stuart Robson was on the radio in the week - stating what we all know, see and feel - How it is down to wengercunt - yes, the players have to shoulder some of the responsibility - But he stated (paraphrasing here) "Wenger doesn't do tactics - he never has - in training the players do not practise defending against set pieces or run through various drills on how to defend or how to maintain their shape, nor any other formation or organisational tactics - Most of the training is about passing the ball in close knit groups and how to move and pass, move and pass their way in all areas of the field...."

And for the comments and criticisms he has made, he is persona non-gratis at The Bowl - he has been told he is no longer welcome - Up until he made those statements about Arsenal's defensive failings the season before last - he used to have a regular stint on Pravda TV not any more.


The ex-players all enjoy the gravy train - that's why they won't speak out and tell it like it is - not unless they want their freebies and media work etc revoked.

Wenkunt is a Despot. :evil: :cussing: :censored: :banghead:

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OneBardGooner wrote: Stuart Robson was on the radio in the week - he stated (paraphrasing here) "Wenger doesn't do tactics - he never has - in training the players do not practise defending against set pieces or run through various drills on how to defend or how to maintain their shape, nor any other formation or organisational tactics - Most of the training is about passing the ball in close knit groups and how to move and pass, move and pass their way in all areas of the field...."
Dixon has said almost the same as what Robson has said.
Just with more subtlety.

I think our ex players are being honest and being themselves.
Because I bet you they do not hate Wenger like most of this Forum does.
They owe him a huge debt, extra years in the team, extended careers and post-playing careers.
They still respect him, and feel sad for him, not anger at him.

Oh they shake their heads at the Keystone Cops defending, it pains them, but they also have a respect for their mate Bould not to let the criticism spiral into bile.

They know what is going on, but there is another key point too.
They cannot do anything about it.
If Bould on the inside cannot, then they are much more on the outside.
The owner is in Colorado, happy with Wenger so far, and that is that.

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QuartzGooner wrote:The owner is in Colorado, happy with Wenger so far, and that is that.
How very depressing.

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Ikechukwu1 wrote:I've been one of Merse's biggest advocates but I'm with SteveO on this, guy us a cretin. After the Anderlecht game, Merse was all over Le Cock. Then the infamous Stoke Three, and it was all "be careful what you wish for"
Pfffffft

Mind you he isn't alone. Dixon, totally gutless. Winterburn, even worse. Seaman was on the other day about how Wenker is irreplaceable. I love Henry but just you watch the Wenker love-in once he takes his seat in the Sky studio. If you thought the others were bad, Thierry is angling for that job at Arsenal... :roll:
My all time favourite player but I honestly can't stand him now because of that very reason. It appears his loyalty is first and foremost with Wenger over Arsenal.

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http://talksport.com/football/exclusive ... hb5ukrW.01

ONE STEWART ROBSON......THERE'S ONLY ONE STEWART ROBSON

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

Spoke to him a couple of times and any suggestion he doesn't care about the club is absolute bollocks. What is 100% correct is that he's no longer welcome at the club because of his views. He's never been anything other than 100% honest and unlike that retarded fuckwit who sits on the Sky panel, he is actually capable of pointing out what's wrong in a structured and controlled way

Nothing in this interview that I would disagree with

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SydneyGooner wrote:
Ikechukwu1 wrote:I've been one of Merse's biggest advocates but I'm with SteveO on this, guy us a cretin. After the Anderlecht game, Merse was all over Le Cock. Then the infamous Stoke Three, and it was all "be careful what you wish for"
Pfffffft

Mind you he isn't alone. Dixon, totally gutless. Winterburn, even worse. Seaman was on the other day about how Wenker is irreplaceable. I love Henry but just you watch the Wenker love-in once he takes his seat in the Sky studio. If you thought the others were bad, Thierry is angling for that job at Arsenal... :roll:
My all time favourite player but I honestly can't stand him now because of that very reason. It appears his loyalty is first and foremost with Wenger over Arsenal.
It's going to be sickening to watch Henry spout complete and utter shite on Sky.

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SteveO 35 wrote:http://talksport.com/football/exclusive ... hb5ukrW.01

ONE STEWART ROBSON......THERE'S ONLY ONE STEWART ROBSON

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

Spoke to him a couple of times and any suggestion he doesn't care about the club is absolute bollocks. What is 100% correct is that he's no longer welcome at the club because of his views. He's never been anything other than 100% honest and unlike that retarded fuckwit who sits on the Sky panel, he is actually capable of pointing out what's wrong in a structured and controlled way

Nothing in this interview that I would disagree with
Hardly seems like a ranting individual with an agenda does he?

He is spot on about our lack of coherent pressing game. No other team at our level lets the opposition play so much football. On the rare occasions that we do press hard and fast high up the pitch we look impressive and look easily capable of overrunning inferior opposition.

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SteveO 35 wrote:http://talksport.com/football/exclusive ... hb5ukrW.01

ONE STEWART ROBSON......THERE'S ONLY ONE STEWART ROBSON

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

Spoke to him a couple of times and any suggestion he doesn't care about the club is absolute bollocks. What is 100% correct is that he's no longer welcome at the club because of his views. He's never been anything other than 100% honest and unlike that retarded fuckwit who sits on the Sky panel, he is actually capable of pointing out what's wrong in a structured and controlled way

Nothing in this interview that I would disagree with
It'll take more than Robson to get through to some people though. Anything he says will be dismissed as the bitter ramblings of a man with an axe to grind.

Doesn't make what he says any less true.

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SteveO 35 wrote:http://talksport.com/football/exclusive ... hb5ukrW.01

ONE STEWART ROBSON......THERE'S ONLY ONE STEWART ROBSON

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

Spoke to him a couple of times and any suggestion he doesn't care about the club is absolute bollocks. What is 100% correct is that he's no longer welcome at the club because of his views. He's never been anything other than 100% honest and unlike that retarded fuckwit who sits on the Sky panel, he is actually capable of pointing out what's wrong in a structured and controlled way

Nothing in this interview that I would disagree with
Imagine if Robson and Jacqui Oately got together and had a child.

:shock: :barscarf:

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arseofacrow wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:http://talksport.com/football/exclusive ... hb5ukrW.01

ONE STEWART ROBSON......THERE'S ONLY ONE STEWART ROBSON

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

Spoke to him a couple of times and any suggestion he doesn't care about the club is absolute bollocks. What is 100% correct is that he's no longer welcome at the club because of his views. He's never been anything other than 100% honest and unlike that retarded fuckwit who sits on the Sky panel, he is actually capable of pointing out what's wrong in a structured and controlled way

Nothing in this interview that I would disagree with
Imagine if Robson and Jacqui Oately got together and had a child.

:shock: :barscarf:
They'd call it Augie or Sid

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northbank123 wrote:
SydneyGooner wrote:
Ikechukwu1 wrote:I've been one of Merse's biggest advocates but I'm with SteveO on this, guy us a cretin. After the Anderlecht game, Merse was all over Le Cock. Then the infamous Stoke Three, and it was all "be careful what you wish for"
Pfffffft

Mind you he isn't alone. Dixon, totally gutless. Winterburn, even worse. Seaman was on the other day about how Wenker is irreplaceable. I love Henry but just you watch the Wenker love-in once he takes his seat in the Sky studio. If you thought the others were bad, Thierry is angling for that job at Arsenal... :roll:
My all time favourite player but I honestly can't stand him now because of that very reason. It appears his loyalty is first and foremost with Wenger over Arsenal.
It's going to be sickening to watch Henry spout complete and utter shite on Sky.
Im am absolutely dreading watching Henry on Sky bigging up and congratulating Wenger for his past glories while leaving him unchallenged for his obvious and numerous present failings

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armchair wrote: Im am absolutely dreading watching Henry on Sky bigging up and congratulating Wenger for his past glories while leaving him unchallenged for his obvious and numerous present failings
i'm not. once he starts watching us every week he'll realize how poorly organized and prepared we are and the total lack of tactics.

had he had to pundit on wengers many many fuck ups he'd not be lauding him.

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clockender1 wrote:
armchair wrote: Im am absolutely dreading watching Henry on Sky bigging up and congratulating Wenger for his past glories while leaving him unchallenged for his obvious and numerous present failings
i'm not. once he starts watching us every week he'll realize how poorly organized and prepared we are and the total lack of tactics.

had he had to pundit on wengers many many fuck ups he'd not be lauding him.
What and Keown, Dixon, Merson and just about every other pundit dont see us often enough?

Aside from not wantingto blow futurejob chances, Henry idolises Wenger and played in an era where his outdated and inflexible approach saw great reward. Im not saying that he wont criticise "the club" in the abstract like everyone does but he is a great lover and defender of Wenger and that wont change.

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SteveO 35 wrote:http://talksport.com/football/exclusive ... hb5ukrW.01

ONE STEWART ROBSON......THERE'S ONLY ONE STEWART ROBSON

:barscarf: :barscarf: :barscarf:

Spoke to him a couple of times and any suggestion he doesn't care about the club is absolute bollocks. What is 100% correct is that he's no longer welcome at the club because of his views. He's never been anything other than 100% honest and unlike that retarded fuckwit who sits on the Sky panel, he is actually capable of pointing out what's wrong in a structured and controlled way

Nothing in this interview that I would disagree with
Sorry but Robson is a complete cu&t, who's bitterness against the club is obvious.
You can sense his joy listening to him on TalkShite whenever we lose. When we win he's never on the air.
He's got zero credibility.

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