The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[nut flush gooner]

NutFlush....in your last few posts you have stated that...

1. I have trouble reading or comprehending or both.

2. AllGuns spouts rubbish and doesn't even know what GDP means.

Think about this for a moment. You have shown a serious flaw in your judgemental abilities.

Why would anybody trust in your judgement when it comes to more important matters?

You also said that is "quite sad how the poor and uneducated have been brainwashed "

Do you see a pattern emerging here? Probably not.

Anyhow, if you would like to pm me your address I'll send you a gift ......

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_ ... nce_People

Quote in italics was not attributed to me. You need to read the thread a bit harder. Dare I mention age .

In relation to the other comments, when an Accountant (alleged) cannot explain correctly exactly what happened with the Enron scandal and tries to link it with the Financial crisis then my comments are warranted tbh.

All we hear today is the Nissan deal and the thousands of jobs saved, not the sweetners the Government have assured to Nissan that ultimately will cost taxpayers money.

With regards to "how to win friends and influence people", is that the most cliche'd book ever written. The reason I have been so vociferous on this thread is because the brexiteers have just buried their heads in the sand. Every debate has half a story from you lot, as has been proven with both Nissan and GDP figures issued today.

Apologies NutFlush. Somebody else said that "out" voters are poor and uneducated. You probably disagree whole heartedly with this.

However, you did personally insult myself and AllGuns. How about an apology for that?

I challenge the buffoon to a dual where we can confirm each other's educational certification and world travel, bet he never even got to Margate the dodgy Delboy of our community lol....

Ok I am professionally qualified as a Financial Planner, took my last exam about 3 years ago. Plan is to start taking some further exams to qualify as a Chartered Financial Planner. The qualifications I hold are degree level equivalent.

Are you are Chartered Accountant, I doubt it? ENRON old boy know your facts.

With regards to travel, I am not sure of the relevance but have been to other continents on this planet. Quite ironic that a brexiteer suggests that I am as inward looking as he is . But hey this is the internet.



PS you still haven't answered my questions .

[nut flush gooner]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... -inflation

To fill the other half of the glass for the brexiteers.

[nut flush gooner]

NutFlush....in your last few posts you have stated that...

1. I have trouble reading or comprehending or both.

2. AllGuns spouts rubbish and doesn't even know what GDP means.

Think about this for a moment. You have shown a serious flaw in your judgemental abilities.

Why would anybody trust in your judgement when it comes to more important matters?

You also said that is "quite sad how the poor and uneducated have been brainwashed "

Do you see a pattern emerging here? Probably not.

Anyhow, if you would like to pm me your address I'll send you a gift ......

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_ ... nce_People

Quote in italics was not attributed to me. You need to read the thread a bit harder. Dare I mention age .

In relation to the other comments, when an Accountant (alleged) cannot explain correctly exactly what happened with the Enron scandal and tries to link it with the Financial crisis then my comments are warranted tbh.

All we hear today is the Nissan deal and the thousands of jobs saved, not the sweetners the Government have assured to Nissan that ultimately will cost taxpayers money.

With regards to "how to win friends and influence people", is that the most cliche'd book ever written. The reason I have been so vociferous on this thread is because the brexiteers have just buried their heads in the sand. Every debate has half a story from you lot, as has been proven with both Nissan and GDP figures issued today.

Apologies NutFlush. Somebody else said that "out" voters are poor and uneducated. You probably disagree whole heartedly with this.

However, you did personally insult myself and AllGuns. How about an apology for that?

Apology accepted, you are a gooner after all:). Apology reciprocated if it makes you happy. Gotta keep the gooner family happy ehhh.



With regards to the poor and uneducated comments, if you have read what I have said throughout this thread I said that referendum should never have taken place because we as a nation are not qualified to make this judgement. There are people that went out and educated themselves, but a lot of brexiteers just used their biased views of Foreigners and Europe to make their decisions. Where there enough of these people to swing the vote in favour of leave, hell yes.

[A11M11]

a lot of brexiteers just used their biased views of Foreigners and Europe to make their decisions. Were there enough of these people to swing the vote in favour of leave ? hell yes.

And no doubt many of the Remainers looked at their own financial position and voted in favour of the " I'm all right Jack" option.

[Allgunsblazin]

NutFlush....in your last few posts you have stated that...

1. I have trouble reading or comprehending or both.

2. AllGuns spouts rubbish and doesn't even know what GDP means.

Think about this for a moment. You have shown a serious flaw in your judgemental abilities.

Why would anybody trust in your judgement when it comes to more important matters?

You also said that is "quite sad how the poor and uneducated have been brainwashed "

Do you see a pattern emerging here? Probably not.

Anyhow, if you would like to pm me your address I'll send you a gift ......

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_ ... nce_People

Quote in italics was not attributed to me. You need to read the thread a bit harder. Dare I mention age .

In relation to the other comments, when an Accountant (alleged) cannot explain correctly exactly what happened with the Enron scandal and tries to link it with the Financial crisis then my comments are warranted tbh.

All we hear today is the Nissan deal and the thousands of jobs saved, not the sweetners the Government have assured to Nissan that ultimately will cost taxpayers money.

With regards to "how to win friends and influence people", is that the most cliche'd book ever written. The reason I have been so vociferous on this thread is because the brexiteers have just buried their heads in the sand. Every debate has half a story from you lot, as has been proven with both Nissan and GDP figures issued today.

Apologies NutFlush. Somebody else said that "out" voters are poor and uneducated. You probably disagree whole heartedly with this.

However, you did personally insult myself and AllGuns. How about an apology for that?

I challenge the buffoon to a dual where we can confirm each other's educational certification and world travel, bet he never even got to Margate the dodgy Delboy of our community lol....

Ok I am professionally qualified as a Financial Planner, took my last exam about 3 years ago. Plan is to start taking some further exams to qualify as a Chartered Financial Planner. The qualifications I hold are degree level equivalent.

Are you are Chartered Accountant, I doubt it? ENRON old boy know your facts.

With regards to travel, I am not sure of the relevance but have been to other continents on this planet. Quite ironic that a brexiteer suggests that I am as inward looking as he is . But hey this is the internet.



PS you still haven't answered my questions .

Financial Planner eh!, we called that Costing and Budgetting and formed one yes 1 paper, let's hope you gave the NHS a wide berth, now where is my shopping list lol...

[flash gunner]

a lot of brexiteers just used their biased views of Foreigners and Europe to make their decisions. Were there enough of these people to swing the vote in favour of leave ? hell yes.

And no doubt many of the Remainers looked at their own financial position and voted in favour of the " I'm all right Jack" option.

Well said mate.

[Gunner Rob]

a lot of brexiteers just used their biased views of Foreigners and Europe to make their decisions. Were there enough of these people to swing the vote in favour of leave ? hell yes.

And no doubt many of the Remainers looked at their own financial position and voted in favour of the " I'm all right Jack" option.

Well said mate.

and some Remainers thought you know what most of the country is going to be totally screwed by Brexit.
another case in point
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37799235

2016 - the year that the UK voted itself poorer

[flash gunner]

a lot of brexiteers just used their biased views of Foreigners and Europe to make their decisions. Were there enough of these people to swing the vote in favour of leave ? hell yes.

And no doubt many of the Remainers looked at their own financial position and voted in favour of the " I'm all right Jack" option.

Well said mate.

and some Remainers thought you know what most of the country is going to be totally screwed by Brexit.
another case in point
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37799235

2016 - the year that the UK voted itself poorer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37763913

[Gunner Rob]

i appreciate that few will agree but I do agree with this. He makes more sense than anyone in the government right now

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... are_btn_tw

[nut flush gooner]

Quote in italics was not attributed to me. You need to read the thread a bit harder. Dare I mention age .

In relation to the other comments, when an Accountant (alleged) cannot explain correctly exactly what happened with the Enron scandal and tries to link it with the Financial crisis then my comments are warranted tbh.

All we hear today is the Nissan deal and the thousands of jobs saved, not the sweetners the Government have assured to Nissan that ultimately will cost taxpayers money.

With regards to "how to win friends and influence people", is that the most cliche'd book ever written. The reason I have been so vociferous on this thread is because the brexiteers have just buried their heads in the sand. Every debate has half a story from you lot, as has been proven with both Nissan and GDP figures issued today.

Apologies NutFlush. Somebody else said that "out" voters are poor and uneducated. You probably disagree whole heartedly with this.

However, you did personally insult myself and AllGuns. How about an apology for that?

I challenge the buffoon to a dual where we can confirm each other's educational certification and world travel, bet he never even got to Margate the dodgy Delboy of our community lol....

Ok I am professionally qualified as a Financial Planner, took my last exam about 3 years ago. Plan is to start taking some further exams to qualify as a Chartered Financial Planner. The qualifications I hold are degree level equivalent.

Are you are Chartered Accountant, I doubt it? ENRON old boy know your facts.

With regards to travel, I am not sure of the relevance but have been to other continents on this planet. Quite ironic that a brexiteer suggests that I am as inward looking as he is . But hey this is the internet.



PS you still haven't answered my questions .

Financial Planner eh!, we called that Costing and Budgetting and formed one yes 1 paper, let's hope you gave the NHS a wide berth, now where is my shopping list lol...

Blimey you really haven't got a clue have you. Financial Planning involves giving FCA regulated advice and takes 3 years to qualify for a graduate entrant, I am certain you are not an Accountant now.

Anyway back to Brexit, watch Bloomberg you might learn something.

[DB10GOONER]

This really is an appalling thread.

I won't lock it as it is an issue for our British Gooners and obviously many of you feel very passionately about it one way or the other. But the intolerance of others' views, the sniping, the insults and the general shitiness need to stop. Try and be respectful of each other.

[nut flush gooner]

This really is an appalling thread.

I won't lock it as it is an issue for our British Gooners and obviously many of you feel very passionately about it one way or the other. But the intolerance of others' views, the sniping, the insults and the general shitiness need to stop. Try and be respectful of each other.

It's reflective of how divided our country is DB10, you may shake your head in disbelief but these sorts of discussions are happening on and offline.

Remember not long ago Ireland was a hugely divided country too.

PS It would take a brave man to lock this thread, just as well there is a stretch of water between us

[nut flush gooner]

a lot of brexiteers just used their biased views of Foreigners and Europe to make their decisions. Were there enough of these people to swing the vote in favour of leave ? hell yes.

And no doubt many of the Remainers looked at their own financial position and voted in favour of the " I'm all right Jack" option.

Well said mate.

So there you have it in a nutshell. Those who haven't had a good hand dealt in life or didn't have the get up and go to better themselves, can only take it out on people who are better off than they are.

The disabled and socially deprived have my sympathy, but to hear this first hand from a brexiteer just shows how much a stitch up this whole thing was. It's basically the attitude that if we can't have it fuck everyone else. Shocking.

[DB10GOONER]

This really is an appalling thread.

I won't lock it as it is an issue for our British Gooners and obviously many of you feel very passionately about it one way or the other. But the intolerance of others' views, the sniping, the insults and the general shitiness need to stop. Try and be respectful of each other.

It's reflective of how divided our country is DB10, you may shake your head in disbelief but these sorts of discussions are happening on and offline.

Remember not long ago Ireland was a hugely divided country too.

PS It would take a brave man to lock this thread, just as well there is a stretch of water between us

I would never lock it unless it got totally out of hand abuse-wise, which it hasn't. I'm a true believer in the right to freedom of speech. But I also believe that rights like FOS bring with them a responsibility to be respectful and understanding of other people's beliefs and opinions.

My country is still hugely divided. Nothing has really been resolved by the peace process. We have kinda slumped into a mindset of "ok at least not as many people are getting murdered and maimed" and to be honest that is probably the best we could ever have hoped for. Personally I'm happy enough for the 6 counties to remain British if it means no more (or even just less) killing. But of course I don't live there and I'm sure most of the Nationalist/Republicans that do, would never agree with me.

[flash gunner]

a lot of brexiteers just used their biased views of Foreigners and Europe to make their decisions. Were there enough of these people to swing the vote in favour of leave ? hell yes.

And no doubt many of the Remainers looked at their own financial position and voted in favour of the " I'm all right Jack" option.

Well said mate.

So there you have it in a nutshell. Those who haven't had a good hand dealt in life or didn't have the get up and go to better themselves, can only take it out on people who are better off than they are.

The disabled and socially deprived have my sympathy, but to hear this first hand from a brexiteer just shows how much a stitch up this whole thing was. It's basically the attitude that if we can't have it fuck everyone else. Shocking.

Mate my views were well documented about 10 pages ago here they are again in case you missed them.......... If you don't like my views sorry mate but that's it I'm not trying to please people with them






I dont agree DB10. i dont think there is a big racist element or even a medium sized one i think a lot of Brexiteers unhappiness in the EU is down to

Firstly and the biggest factor IMO the uncontrolled flow of unskilled migrant workers which has forced wages down for the lower paid people especially young people in Britain, i recently have got involved in youth work and nearly all of the youth workers i know (a bigger bunch of left wing social worker types you wont ever meet) all voted out due to the problems the young people they work with face days after day. Now some of my friends say thing like 'well my son left school started an apprenticeship earns £200 and never had a problem' etc etc etc but there mare many young people that don't have the guidance or intelligence that my friends kids have had and many of these types of people struggle and voted out. This IMO is NOT racism

also

the hatred of the bureaucratic un-elected style of many of the senior people within the EU hierarchy many of whom are failed politicians within their own countries (Neil Kinnock is a quick one that comes to mind)

Thing will be rough for 2-5 years no doubt with crashes and rises followed by more crashes but i think things will settle in time

The problem with referendums like this is there is so much misinformation by both sides its hard to know whats for the best. As shown on this thread Chippy, Nutty have such strong views backed up links from experts and others have strong views the other way backed up by links from experts There is no way of ever knowing the best outcome except in 10/20 years time.

I think a true socialist will not like the EU (like Corbyn and i genuinely like the bloke) with all its undemocratic leaders and boys club for big business while fucking over the poorly paid at the very bottom of the ladder but the problem is that means socialists have to side with right wingers like Farage and they cant stomach that either so the lesser of two hatreds win out and socialists become remainers