THE WENGER THREAD

[Theoperator]

Will it be 70 minutes after the game that we get someone saying he should have had a 5 year contract.

Nearly 4th now, so all is good.

[manorhouse]

See the Vila fans at the end of a game they lost 5-0, still applauding there team, ring any bells?
These are supporters, not mugs constantly sniping away at the team, club and manager
This site has been infiltrated!!!
As the great Glen Hoddle once said when he was manager down the road, Tottenahm will never move on until they forget there obssession with Aresenal

[OneBardGooner]

See the Vila fans at the end of a game they lost 5-0, still applauding there team, ring any bells?
These are supporters, not mugs constantly sniping away at the team, club and manager
This site has been infiltrated!!!
As the great Glen Hoddle once said when he was manager down the road, Tottenahm will never move on until they forget there obssession with Aresenal

Oh Lordy here we go another lump of filth has somehow managed to find its way in through the sewers at Gooner.Com...


btw:

That should be "their" and it is THE Arsenal.

Thank-you very much.

[Raggy]

With all the stick we have given Wenger, I think he has quietly put together a decent squad. Just kind of late though.
Even after letting 3 attackers go, with the likes of OG, Theo, Ox, Sanchez, Wele, Chuba, Ozil, we still have people who should be able to find the back of net on a consistent basis.

A world class CDM and a TOP TOP center forward and we should be good. OG has grown into becoming a very good CF so anyone to challenge him must be world class!

Wenger should also get some credit for bringing in back Coq

Peace

[StuartL]

With all the stick we have given Wenger, I think he has quietly put together a decent squad. Just kind of late though.
Even after letting 3 attackers go, with the likes of OG, Theo, Ox, Sanchez, Wele, Chuba, Ozil, we still have people who should be able to find the back of net on a consistent basis.

A world class CDM and a TOP TOP center forward and we should be good. OG has grown into becoming a very good CF so anyone to challenge him must be world class!

Wenger should also get some credit for bringing in back Coq

Peace

Shame that much of Wenkers "masterplan" has been by default

Coq, who to date has not been deemed of sufficient quality for us has been bought back form loan and played due to injury - Arteta / Jack / Flamini


Akpom, again not considered worthy of inclusion as we had Sanogo in the staring roll

Bellerin, nowhere near the first 11, till Debuchy's injury and Chambers being exposed

Ospina, not given a first team start till Szezcezeznezney continued fuck ups (sending off in Champ League)

by default, much like last season's FA Cup run the team has come together by accident rather than design (but long may it continue )

Had we started the season with a balanced squad defensively, we would be in a far better position, possibly 2nd right now.

[Theoperator]

See the Vila fans at the end of a game they lost 5-0, still applauding there team, ring any bells?
These are supporters, not mugs constantly sniping away at the team, club and manager
This site has been infiltrated!!!
As the great Glen Hoddle once said when he was manager down the road, Tottenahm will never move on until they forget there obssession with Aresenal

Oh Lordy here we go another lump of filth has somehow managed to find its way in through the sewers at Gooner.Com...


btw:

That should be "their" and it is THE Arsenal.

Thank-you very much.

Ah yes, the Villa fans that couldn't fill their allocation by the looks of it and seldom get anywhere near capacity when home.

Cant be filth though with scum misspelt maybe just tipsy after too many lattes today.

At least we ARE the ARESENAL

[brucegrove]

With all the stick we have given Wenger, I think he has quietly put together a decent squad. Just kind of late though.
Even after letting 3 attackers go, with the likes of OG, Theo, Ox, Sanchez, Wele, Chuba, Ozil, we still have people who should be able to find the back of net on a consistent basis.

A world class CDM and a TOP TOP center forward and we should be good. OG has grown into becoming a very good CF so anyone to challenge him must be world class!

Wenger should also get some credit for bringing in back Coq

Peace

Shame that much of Wenkers "masterplan" has been by default

Coq, who to date has not been deemed of sufficient quality for us has been bought back form loan and played due to injury - Arteta / Jack / Flamini


Akpom, again not considered worthy of inclusion as we had Sanogo in the staring roll

Bellerin, nowhere near the first 11, till Debuchy's injury and Chambers being exposed

Ospina, not given a first team start till Szezcezeznezney continued fuck ups (sending off in Champ League)

by default, much like last season's FA Cup run the team has come together by accident rather than design (but long may it continue )

Had we started the season with a balanced squad defensively, we would be in a far better position, possibly 2nd right now.

I agree with much of the above but we've had players in the past (Lauren, Kolo) who found their best positions rather by default, that's not exclusive to AW especially because under GG Kevin Richardson was shunted out to the left wing and Marwood swapped to the left wing also. The fact is that under AW these players have been schooled in the AW AFC manner hence they can fit into the system and it's up to them to take their chance. I'm really enjoying the (re)emergence of Coq and Bellerin bouncing back from his tough experience away to Stoke.

The world and his wife (and possibly even Mrs Wenger) knew that we needed a centre back in the summer, in fact Mr Wenger was quoted in several interviews saying that if TV was sold then we would bring in a replacement. Why he didn't do just that and who he envisaged stepping up and taking taking the mantle of 3rd and 4th choice CBs we'll never know but by luck or by judgement we're starting to look like we could go on a really strong run. Somebody (sorry i forget who) stated- i think on these pages- that we normally have a strong first half of the season then fade away but that this year it's looking like we might bounce back from the Stoke, Swansea and Southampton poor performances to have a really strong run in and i agree. The biggest success of the Man C game was seeing how strong our bench looked and thinking to myself for the first time in a long while that we've got game changing subs available to us.

AW haters need to stop consuming themselves with bile long enough to see that Ospina might just be the real deal, Kos and Per have got central defence sorted and who knows what Gabriel could do, Monreal has stepped up, Ros is having a swan song, Coq is showing real potential, Wally could be a real attribute if he rediscovers his scoring touch, Ozil is contributing, Akpom is making a bigger impression than Yaya, Santi is revelling in the centre, we're not reliant on only one scorer and at present we're only 6points off 2nd place, For the first time since about 2008 i wonder if we might be able to put in a serious title challenge so save the scorn, at least until it goes tits up, because we might just be on the verge of having a bloody good next few months

[clockender1]

AW haters need to stop consuming themselves with bile long enough to see that Ospina might just be the real deal, Kos and Per have got central defence sorted and who knows what Gabriel could do, Monreal has stepped up, Ros is having a swan song, Coq is showing real potential, Wally could be a real attribute if he rediscovers his scoring touch, Ozil is contributing, Akpom is making a bigger impression than Yaya, Santi is revelling in the centre, we're not reliant on only one scorer and at present we're only 6points off 2nd place, For the first time since about 2008 i wonder if we might be able to put in a serious title challenge so save the scorn, at least until it goes tits up, because we might just be on the verge of having a bloody good next few months

all of this from wins over Brighton and Villa ?

the city win has gone to the AKB's heads i think.

Per and Kos were in the line up when we were outplayed by Southampton, Coq too. most of our first choices were involved in the swansea, united and stoke losses, and the poor performances vs the spuds, qpr, west brom, sunderland , dortmund and anderlecht.

so lets see how we do at the vermin, anfield, the bridge and Old Toilet eh, before we start talking of a top three finish

remember, this is not wengers team, nor his tactics - not by choice anyway

[brucegrove]

AW haters need to stop consuming themselves with bile long enough to see that Ospina might just be the real deal, Kos and Per have got central defence sorted and who knows what Gabriel could do, Monreal has stepped up, Ros is having a swan song, Coq is showing real potential, Wally could be a real attribute if he rediscovers his scoring touch, Ozil is contributing, Akpom is making a bigger impression than Yaya, Santi is revelling in the centre, we're not reliant on only one scorer and at present we're only 6points off 2nd place, For the first time since about 2008 i wonder if we might be able to put in a serious title challenge so save the scorn, at least until it goes tits up, because we might just be on the verge of having a bloody good next few months

all of this from wins over Brighton and Villa ?

the city win has gone to the AKB's heads i think.

Per and Kos were in the line up when we were outplayed by Southampton, Coq too. most of our first choices were involved in the swansea, united and stoke losses, and the poor performances vs the spuds, qpr, west brom, sunderland , dortmund and anderlecht.

so lets see how we do at the vermin, anfield, the bridge and Old Toilet eh, before we start talking of a top three finish

remember, this is not wengers team, nor his tactics - not by choice anyway

No, my optimism doesn't stem from just two matches against lesser opposition but rather from the fact that we're a fortress at home, i forget the statistics but isn't it 1 defeat in 28 games or something? I don't put myself into any (AKB) grouping and i wouldn't have had much optimism at the start of the season, i mentioned in my post defeats against Sth and Stoke..both of which were truly appalling non-performances. I'd even go so far as to say that we won the FA cup by default cos if we'd played ManC instead of Wig i'm sure we'd have gone out, in fact the 2wins against Wig (on Pens) and a piss poor Hull were spurious at best but, BUT something seems to have happened in the last month that's reinvigorated my enthusiasm not to mention that of the players. That's why if you read my wording i merely stated that people should hold back on the criticism 'until things go tits up' and enjoy the moment because i 'm thinking we've got a better balanced squad than ManU and the turgid turd of Sat's CFC/ManC bore draw makes me think that on top form we could match them.

[officepest]

Without getting carried away, I am quietly impressed with our recent change from pointless possession at all cost football to a more direct, counter-attacking style.

It’s what other teams have been employing against us for years and it seems to be bearing fruit. Obviously we are still very much a work in progress but at least there are reasons for limited optimism.

Another acid test awaits against the scum, who should put up a harder obstacle than the wretched Villa, but there are encouraging signs.

[clockender1]

bruce - i think people are holding back on the criticism though - but we also have been burned so many times by this manager, that theres little room for optimism.

i wasn't implying that you were an AKB just that they are getting giddy in the press and online. ive even seen it said that we may have left it too late for the title LMFAO

i think we can enjoy each win without getting our hopes up that this is a new trend or era can't we ?

[clockender1]

Without getting carried away, I am quietly impressed with our recent change from pointless possession at all cost football to a more direct, counter-attacking style.

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as am I, this change came from that team meeting - our backs no longer charge forward into blind alleys, but one is kept back and Coq plays a proper holding role, one which ramsay and wheelchair can't or won't do.

but wenger will still want to play wilshire or arteta when fit.

[flash gunner]

I think Babetunde is enjoying our recent fun of good form. He's certainly posting less

[Gunner Rob]

whilst there have been encouraging signs these past few weeks it should not be forgotten that we are still only 5th and 10 points worse off than at the same stage of the season last year.

huge test v Spurs. win or even draw there and it should set us up for a good end to the season.

[brucegrove]

bruce - i think people are holding back on the criticism though - but we also have been burned so many times by this manager, that theres little room for optimism.

i wasn't implying that you were an AKB just that they are getting giddy in the press and online. ive even seen it said that we may have left it too late for the title LMFAO

i think we can enjoy each win without getting our hopes up that this is a new trend or era can't we ?

Judging by most of the comments on these pages i can't really see that people are 'holding back' in their criticism and i certainly agree that we've actually been 'burned' a few times by AWs inexplicable decisions (not to buy back Cesc or bring in a CB last summer etc) and yes i can agree that the first half of this season has probably seen more ugly performances than any other season i can recall under AW however the result of that hard slog is that the likes of Bell and Chambers have been slung in at the deep end and manned up, i like the sound of the players confronting AW..after all it happened in his first season when we won the double and i can't help wondering why strong characters like RvP and Nasri didn't do this before. The point of my initial post was that people shouldn't be so blinded by hatred or frustration that they fail to enjoy a 5-0 victory against a strong AV defence in which 5 diff players scored. One earlier poster said that 'we should've had this game wrapped up in the first 30mins' but it's that kind of mentality of entitlement that breeds contempt. Football simply doesn't work that way, thank god, or the richer teams would simply piss all over everyone, as in Spain and ManC wouldn't have been knocked out of the FAcup two seasons in a row by frigging Wigan.

I'm writing mid-aft on deadline day and i really can't see us bringing anyone in unless a world class striker falls in our lap because the troubled positions of DM and CB seem to be reasonably well catered for, in numbers at least if not in absolute top quality. I really feel we are going to have tough close games with (lets face it, a decent in-form) Spuds and Monaco who'll be a tougher opponent than i think most are expecting but compared to 6wks ago i'm starting to feel that we're building the mentality and consistency to go on a run, we've got plenty of individualists to provide a spark and finally with Coq's unexpected emergence and leadership we might just be able to hold out at the back.

Of course if it all goes to Hull in a handcart i'll join you in bemoaning why we persist with zonal marking and never make tactical substitutions etc but keep your pecker up for now