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[nut flush gooner]

My understanding is that Pfizer and Oxford both use the spike protein from the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Have I been wrong all this time?!

Your right, I've read this many times and my brain is now frazzled. Thought I understood but now not so sure.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how ... e-12202329

[Clummo99]

My understanding is that Pfizer and Oxford both use the spike protein from the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Have I been wrong all this time?!

Your right, I've read this many times and my brain is now frazzled. Thought I understood but now not so sure.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how ... e-12202329

I've now got my eye on the Novavax vaccine and may wait to see how that fairs once approved. It's all very confusing so you're not alone.

[GoonerMuzz]

One thing I have found slightly, no extremely worrying, is that not one politician, scientist, media whore or other individual has asked the question what about the 3-5% of people these vaccines dont work for? In the UK alone that is potentially between 2 and 3M people, worldwide up to 350M people..... I have seen absolutely nothing reported on how they are going to monitor/manage this issue, have these people been completely written off as acceptable losses

[nut flush gooner]

Might take a while to get approved mate, I am just taking up my option asap. Don't want a situation where the Pfizer has gone because of those twats in Brussels. Hopefully the govt are factoring in all this into the equation.

PS really appreciate the streams you keep putting on.

[nut flush gooner]

One thing I have found slightly, no extremely worrying, is that not one politician, scientist, media whore or other individual has asked the question what about the 3-5% of people these vaccines dont work for? In the UK alone that is potentially between 2 and 3M people, worldwide up to 350M people..... I have seen absolutely nothing reported on how they are going to monitor/manage this issue, have these people been completely written off as acceptable losses

When they talk about the people it doesn't work for, it factors in herd immunity I guess. So that isn't as much of an issue as if the disease was rampaging through the population.

Plus you got to remember that most vaccines don't 100% prevent getting you from infected, what they do is stop you from getting so sick you end up in hospital or dying. So it's like a cold or flu I guess as opposed to the nasty symptoms associated with full blown covid.

[A11M11]

Got my letter today , will book it Monday after the post in case my wife's letter comes then . Does it say when you get your appointment which vaccine you are getting. ?

[nut flush gooner]

Got my letter today , will book it Monday after the post in case my wife's letter comes then . Does it say when you get your appointment which vaccine you are getting. ?

Nope. The only way you can find out is by asking. Generally, pharmacies will be AZN as they can't store the Pfizer at the low temp required.

[GoonerMuzz]

One thing I have found slightly, no extremely worrying, is that not one politician, scientist, media whore or other individual has asked the question what about the 3-5% of people these vaccines dont work for? In the UK alone that is potentially between 2 and 3M people, worldwide up to 350M people..... I have seen absolutely nothing reported on how they are going to monitor/manage this issue, have these people been completely written off as acceptable losses

When they talk about the people it doesn't work for, it factors in herd immunity I guess. So that isn't as much of an issue as if the disease was rampaging through the population.

Plus you got to remember that most vaccines don't 100% prevent getting you from infected, what they do is stop you from getting so sick you end up in hospital or dying. So it's like a cold or flu I guess as opposed to the nasty symptoms associated with full blown covid.

Sorry mate but that doesnt help the % of people in the extremely vulnerable group who will fall into the category of the vaccine not working, as i said it seems that those people are effectively being written off as acceptable casualties. There has been absolutely no mention of this anywhere and if it doesnt work for you the attitude seems to be from everyone suck it up buttercup, there has been no guidance or advice on this potentiality. Is anyone even asking these questions?

[A11M11]

There’s a lot of unanswered questions, although we are close to the front of the queue things don’t open up safely until the world catches up . And you have to show I.d with your letter so what of all the people here that we don’t know about

[nut flush gooner]

One thing I have found slightly, no extremely worrying, is that not one politician, scientist, media whore or other individual has asked the question what about the 3-5% of people these vaccines dont work for? In the UK alone that is potentially between 2 and 3M people, worldwide up to 350M people..... I have seen absolutely nothing reported on how they are going to monitor/manage this issue, have these people been completely written off as acceptable losses

When they talk about the people it doesn't work for, it factors in herd immunity I guess. So that isn't as much of an issue as if the disease was rampaging through the population.

Plus you got to remember that most vaccines don't 100% prevent getting you from infected, what they do is stop you from getting so sick you end up in hospital or dying. So it's like a cold or flu I guess as opposed to the nasty symptoms associated with full blown covid.

Sorry mate but that doesnt help the % of people in the extremely vulnerable group who will fall into the category of the vaccine not working, as i said it seems that those people are effectively being written off as acceptable casualties. There has been absolutely no mention of this anywhere and if it doesnt work for you the attitude seems to be from everyone suck it up buttercup, there has been no guidance or advice on this potentiality. Is anyone even asking these questions?

I am in the clinically vulnerable group, and my understanding is the vaccine is still efficacious just not at the levels prescribed in the trials. If that wasnt the case there would be no point in taking the vaccine.

Remember most over 80s have comorbidities so the infection and death rates should fall over the coming weeks. As I said previously one of the main aims of the vaccine is to prevent serious illness, hospitalisation and death. My plan is to have an antibody test once I have had the second jab, thats the true way of knowing if it has worked.

[nut flush gooner]

All done, very well organised and military-like. I take my hats off to the NHS for rolling this out over weekends as well.

No side effects so far, not even an aching arm.

[Clummo99]

All done, very well organised and military-like. I take my hats off to the NHS for rolling this out over weekends as well.

No side effects so far, not even an aching arm.

Now the real testing starts. Best of luck NFG!

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

All done, very well organised and military-like. I take my hats off to the NHS for rolling this out over weekends as well.

No side effects so far, not even an aching arm.

Now the real testing starts. Best of luck NFG!

My mum had her first jab yesterday and text all the kids as obviously happy about it, I echoed your sentiment above and said I will see if you grow a second head before I make my mind up about getting one when I eventually get my turn.

[nut flush gooner]

All done, very well organised and military-like. I take my hats off to the NHS for rolling this out over weekends as well.

No side effects so far, not even an aching arm.

Now the real testing starts. Best of luck NFG!

My mum had her first jab yesterday and text all the kids as obviously happy about it, I echoed your sentiment above and said I will see if you grow a second head before I make my mind up about getting one when I eventually get my turn.

Growing a second head does have its benefits if you know what I mean.

[goonersid]

One thing I have found slightly, no extremely worrying, is that not one politician, scientist, media whore or other individual has asked the question what about the 3-5% of people these vaccines dont work for? In the UK alone that is potentially between 2 and 3M people, worldwide up to 350M people..... I have seen absolutely nothing reported on how they are going to monitor/manage this issue, have these people been completely written off as acceptable losses

They are spread across the whole country, most of them won't contract covid when everyone else has been vaccinated and of those that do? Only a tiny % will die from it!