Van Persie saga, officially not extending contract.

[DB10GOONER]

Kinda weird on this one. I feel RVP is an ungrateful mercenary crunt - but who in the modern game isn't?

This "he carried us last season" thing, whilst true, should be qualified with "we carried the ungrateful bitch for the previous 7 years" tbh. He gave us ONE amazing season. Big deal. The fact we got 20 mil for an injury prone player in his late 20's could be seen as good business. But the fact that we sold him to a club we supposedly consider one of our rivals says everything about our lack of real ambition. Would the Filth sell us one of their best (or indeed actual best AND CAPTAIN)? Would they fuck. We as a club are rotten from the top down. Wenger out. The Board out. The medical staff out. The marketing scum out. The JCLs out. The fucking tea ladies out.

I now despise RVP the ungrateful fucker and I honestly hope he returns to form and spends his time with the Filth on their treatment table and winsd fuck all, but fuck it I couldn't be arsed booing or abusing him.

[augie]

We keep making a point about how many players have seen their careers nosedive since leaving us (petit,hleb,flaming etc) but that conveniently ignores th14, cashly, kolo, clichy and the lesbo who have all won trophies since leaving us. You have to wonder if it is possible for departing players to suffer after leaving us given that the only players that leave us nowadays are young players who can't get a game and who leave us for regular football elsewhere which is an improvement for them straight away and our top players who leave us and invariably leave us to go to top clubs that challenge for and actually win trophies :

I can accept players like rvp leaving if the incoming money is spent along with the pre existing transfer budget to bring in quality players - if selling him and song allows us to bring in the 3 players we already signed plus a quality DM and a back up keeper and another striker then I would be ok with that but selling him and sticking with just the players we have already signed is not a step forward IMO and is at best a step sidewards but is more likely to be a step back and considering that we were not good enough to begin with then that is simply not good enough

[Gunnersaurus]

Kinda weird on this one. I feel RVP is an ungrateful mercenary crunt - but who in the modern game isn't?

This "he carried us last season" thing, whilst true, should be qualified with "we carried the ungrateful bitch for the previous 7 years" tbh. He gave us ONE amazing season. Big deal. The fact we got 20 mil for an injury prone player in his late 20's could be seen as good business. But the fact that we sold him to a club we supposedly consider one of our rivals says everything about our lack of real ambition. Would the Filth sell us one of their best (or indeed actual best AND CAPTAIN)? Would they fuck. We as a club are rotten from the top down. Wenger out. The Board out. The medical staff out. The marketing scum out. The JCLs out. The fucking tea ladies out.

I now despise RVP the ungrateful fucker and I honestly hope he returns to form and spends his time with the Filth on their treatment table and winsd fuck all, but fuck it I couldn't be arsed booing or abusing him.

Great post, my thoughts exactly.

Hopefully he's like for like with that other mercinary they just got rid off, Michael Owen.

[the playing mantis]

leftie, tongue in cheek was my last post. as for the spelling im sydlexic. well dont have time to check the syntax.

there used to be a football club here.

[the playing mantis]

easy to blame rvp. the questions that needs to be asked is why does this keep happening. what is being done to stop it happening.

ultimately this club is fooked as long as kroenke remains. i used to blame AW totally, but i cannot beleieve he would allow his best player to leave for united willingly. the need to balance the books is real, and thats purely due to the board. i still think aw is to blame for certian things, and if he had the money to spend would he in a situatuion where he isnt selling his best players? but the money isnt there to spend. simple

[libertine]

Arseblog has a good post on this today. But to put it bluntly, RvP is a Judas scum bag who deserves a season like Torres endured last season.

[Red Member]

easy to blame rvp. the questions that needs to be asked is why does this keep happening. what is being done to stop it happening.

ultimately this club is fooked as long as kroenke remains. i used to blame AW totally, but i cannot beleieve he would allow his best player to leave for united willingly. the need to balance the books is real, and thats purely due to the board. i still think aw is to blame for certian things, and if he had the money to spend would he in a situatuion where he isnt selling his best players? but the money isnt there to spend. simple

spot on.
and the question is why isn't the money there?

Kroenke is a billionaire and so is Usmanov. If Kroenke doesnt want to invest then get out and let the russian in.
we are a feeder club for the big clubs under Kroenke. he doesn't mind because Wenger generates the profits for him and Arsenal fans are like sheep that keep paying premium prices to watch worse and worse teams.

[highburyJD]

today I shall be mostly abusing RVP on twitter
a traitor of the lowest order
he was a nobody - getting bundled out of Feyenoord because of attitude problems
and Wenger believed in him
he was a permacrock suffering niggle after strain after injury
and Wenger believed in him

yes Cashley, as a Londoner and a Gooner, betrayed the club
but no player has betrayed Wenger like RVP
years of belief, new contracts, total support, made him captain
and he throws it all back in his face like this
don't know how he looks at himself in the mirror

[Bradywasking]

today I shall be mostly abusing RVP on twitter
a traitor of the lowest order
he was a nobody - getting bundled out of Feyenoord because of attitude problems
and Wenger believed in him
he was a permacrock suffering niggle after strain after injury
and Wenger believed in him

yes Cashley, as a Londoner and a Gooner, betrayed the club
but no player has betrayed Wenger like RVP
years of belief, new contracts, total support, made him captain
and he throws it all back in his face like this
don't know how he looks at himself in the mirror

Good one

[richpye]

easy to blame rvp. the questions that needs to be asked is why does this keep happening. what is being done to stop it happening.

ultimately this club is fooked as long as kroenke remains. i used to blame AW totally, but i cannot beleieve he would allow his best player to leave for united willingly. the need to balance the books is real, and thats purely due to the board. i still think aw is to blame for certian things, and if he had the money to spend would he in a situatuion where he isnt selling his best players? but the money isnt there to spend. simple

spot on.
and the question is why isn't the money there?

Kroenke is a billionaire and so is Usmanov. If Kroenke doesnt want to invest then get out and let the russian in.
we are a feeder club for the big clubs under Kroenke. he doesn't mind because Wenger generates the profits for him and Arsenal fans are like sheep that keep paying premium prices to watch worse and worse teams.

Do you mean invest? Or give money away? As they are two separate things. It could be argued the Kroenke has invested significantly (purchase of shares) but is expecting some form of return for them.

There's a good piece in the Guardian about this question though. And there are two major differences between us and United.

1) Commercial Income - just as a one off, United get £35 million a season from their shirt sponsorship, we get £5 million - that's the up front fees for Kagawa and Van Persie in one commercial deal. In the long term the move to Ashburton Grove is still the right one, we are just going to pay for another 2-3 years.

2) Inflated contracts for tosh. Too many of our failed players are on inflated contracts. So even though we have a high wage bill, the balance is just completely wrong on how this is dispersed. This is down to Wenger/Dein/Edelman and possibly Gazidis/Law as well (depending on when these contracts were actually signed). What this summer has proved though is that these players arne't going anywhere whilst they are earning top dollar at Arsenal, which will hinder us until these contracts run down

[Red Member]

highburyJD - you are just acting exactly how the club hope that supporters react.

the more criticism of RVP the better it is for them. It will give Kroenke a chance to count his money.

I am full of admiration for RVP, he is 29, he knows that the club has no ambition and he has ended up a club that does. Good luck to him.

don't forget the players that have been bought this summer were bought to replace RVP. He knew the club were not really going to strengthen so he left. I don't blame him. why would he want to carry the team again?

[SPARKSY]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19179833

That article suggests that once Carzola was bought Robins fate was sealed. Its quite obvious that every summer we sell to buy-the only question is if we will sell Song to Barcelona

I think the bigger concern for us should be which player is the next one to be cherry picked?

Wilshere, Chesney or Chamberlain?

[rigsby]

You would hope though that when the commercial deals end and Arsenal can negotiate along with the huge chunk of cash coming in from TV, that we'll be in a far better position. Not saying we will, but I would say it would certainly put us on a better footing.

Fuck him anyway, going to United, nobody should even be trying to rationalise this!

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

leftie, tongue in cheek was my last post. as for the spelling im sydlexic. well dont have time to check the syntax.

there used to be a football club here.

Sorry mate, was in a fekin bad mood last night, I was on a treadmill at the gym when I saw the headline on sky about rvp going to them crunts, I had earphones in and probably didn't realise how loudly i shouted "oh for fucks sake!!!!!" , that was until the whole gym turned and looked at me

Must admit my training went into overdrive after that

Then got back home and had a few glasses of wine followed by some JBeam........ Feel like shit now mind

Anyhow, yes we truly have become a feeder club which used to be the preserve of teams like the spuds, newcastle, everton etc.......and now us.

I mean we have always sold top players in the past, stapleton, Brady, viera, henry etc but not every fekin year, I don't rate song and theo is hit and miss but if them 2 follow rvp out the door its 50+ goals and nigh on 30 assists that we have to make up for.......long hard season ahead for us

[highburyJD]

is there a 'block' process whereby I can avoid having to read RedWUMbers posts?