Van Persie saga, officially not extending contract.

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highburyJD wrote:is there a 'block' process whereby I can avoid having to read RedWUMbers posts?

When you find out let me know too JD :lol:

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augie wrote:We keep making a point about how many players have seen their careers nosedive since leaving us (petit,hleb,flaming etc) but that conveniently ignores th14, cashly, kolo, clichy and the lesbo who have all won trophies since leaving us. You have to wonder if it is possible for departing players to suffer after leaving us given that the only players that leave us nowadays are young players who can't get a game and who leave us for regular football elsewhere which is an improvement for them straight away and our top players who leave us and invariably leave us to go to top clubs that challenge for and actually win trophies : :cry:

I can accept players like rvp leaving if the incoming money is spent along with the pre existing transfer budget to bring in quality players - if selling him and song allows us to bring in the 3 players we already signed plus a quality DM and a back up keeper and another striker then I would be ok with that but selling him and sticking with just the players we have already signed is not a step forward IMO and is at best a step sidewards but is more likely to be a step back and considering that we were not good enough to begin with then that is simply not good enough :evil:
They've won trophies yes, but the only one who has really gone on to become an integral part of a trophy winning team is cashley. Na$ri and Clichy were part time contributors for city as far as I could see last season, Kolo is no where near first choice for them either and Henry was on a career wind - down anyway and still loved Arsenal more than Barca.

Van Staplecunt may win trophies with Man U but he could be a bit part player with Shrek scoring all the goals. Although he could have another stellar season and win the golden boot as well as trophies.

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
highburyJD wrote:is there a 'block' process whereby I can avoid having to read RedWUMbers posts?

When you find out let me know too JD :lol:
thats it live in your own little world and dont face up to reality.
I am not WUMMING merely telling it like it is.

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bunch wrote:
augie wrote:We keep making a point about how many players have seen their careers nosedive since leaving us (petit,hleb,flaming etc) but that conveniently ignores th14, cashly, kolo, clichy and the lesbo who have all won trophies since leaving us. You have to wonder if it is possible for departing players to suffer after leaving us given that the only players that leave us nowadays are young players who can't get a game and who leave us for regular football elsewhere which is an improvement for them straight away and our top players who leave us and invariably leave us to go to top clubs that challenge for and actually win trophies : :cry:

I can accept players like rvp leaving if the incoming money is spent along with the pre existing transfer budget to bring in quality players - if selling him and song allows us to bring in the 3 players we already signed plus a quality DM and a back up keeper and another striker then I would be ok with that but selling him and sticking with just the players we have already signed is not a step forward IMO and is at best a step sidewards but is more likely to be a step back and considering that we were not good enough to begin with then that is simply not good enough :evil:
They've won trophies yes, but the only one who has really gone on to become an integral part of a trophy winning team is cashley. Na$ri and Clichy were part time contributors for city as far as I could see last season, Kolo is no where near first choice for them either and Henry was on a career wind - down anyway and still loved Arsenal more than Barca.

Van Staplecunt may win trophies with Man U but he could be a bit part player with Shrek scoring all the goals. Although he could have another stellar season and win the golden boot as well as trophies.
Vieira won the league every year for 3 seasons after he left
was never the same player or a first team regular though

sad reality is I've said more than once its immature to wish injuries on a player
but I'll be cheering injuries to VanStaplecunt (thanks) like I used to cheer his goals

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DB10GOONER wrote:Kinda weird on this one. I feel RVP is an ungrateful mercenary crunt - but who in the modern game isn't? :roll: :(

This "he carried us last season" thing, whilst true, should be qualified with "we carried the ungrateful bitch for the previous 7 years" tbh. He gave us ONE amazing season. Big deal. The fact we got 20 mil for an injury prone player in his late 20's could be seen as good business. But the fact that we sold him to a club we supposedly consider one of our rivals says everything about our lack of real ambition. Would the Filth sell us one of their best (or indeed actual best AND CAPTAIN)? Would they fuck. We as a club are rotten from the top down. Wenger out. The Board out. The medical staff out. The marketing scum out. The JCLs out. The fucking tea ladies out. :evil:

I now despise RVP the ungrateful fucker and I honestly hope he returns to form and spends his time with the Filth on their treatment table and winsd fuck all, but fuck it I couldn't be arsed booing or abusing him. :|
Wonderful post. Simply superb. Bravo.
Although I hope this 'mercenary' crap will stop now. He's just left a team that's got less trophy success over almost 8 years than Birmingham and Spuds; for the biggest club and best manager in the country. He cares about football though I admit it's a bit effing sour he has joined them of all teams...

It's sick really. Could you imagine Fergie letting us hav Rooney? Hah! In fact, I am sick of hearing this 'Arsene had no chouce' bollocks. Do you remember the story of Gabriel Heinze? Only had one year left on his contract. Wanted to go to Liverpool. Sulked and tried to force a move. Fergie made it ead clear that he'd rather see Heinze rot in the reserves for a year than join the Mickeys, What happened in the end? Transferred to another country. Simples.

Like I said though Fergie is a football man and Wenger is a money man. The club is rotten, they seem to keep pushing it each yearjust to see how far they can take the piss with the fans, and it seems the answer is, they can do what they want.

RVP. Nasri. Cole. Clichy. Bayor. Kolo.
All sold to club we are allegedly trying to compete against or 'cannot compete' with!!! :banghead: :banghead:

Such is the laughable state of te apologetic JCL fanbase we now have that if we sold Wilshere to the Spuds in a year I am sure you'd hear 'oh GREAT BUSINESS' he is 'injury prone' 'unproven' etc...

RVP was the best striker in Europe just a few months ago and now all of a sudden, he is an injury-prone overhyped piece of garbage? Really?
:oops: :oops:

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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
highburyJD wrote:is there a 'block' process whereby I can avoid having to read RedWUMbers posts?

When you find out let me know too JD :lol:
Go into user control panel at the top of the page. Click Friends or Foes. Manage foes allows you to ignore any posts by the named person. 8)

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Chippy wrote:
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
highburyJD wrote:is there a 'block' process whereby I can avoid having to read RedWUMbers posts?

When you find out let me know too JD :lol:
Go into user control panel at the top of the page. Click Friends or Foes. Manage foes allows you to ignore any posts by the named person. 8)
Now red's negative they want to ignore. :lol: :lol:

Classic. Let's face it - we're all the same. Two sides of the same coin.

8)

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we're not all the same at all

I got upset with Baba more than once (welcome back with the bad news Baba!)
I felt his ad hominem attacks were unreasonable and unrepresentative of real life behaviour
and I disagreed with his massive over-rating of Sperz + 'Arry and hatred of Wenger
the reasons for those feelings I don't know
but I never doubted for a second he really had them

redWUMber hasn't 'become' negative - his posts are not his opinions at all
they are pure fantasy creations with no purpose bar irritation

I will never ignore somebody who's opinions I don't like
just ignored red because I don't believe that the opinions he posts are real

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good post again Babatunde.
I think you are right about the club pushing things as far as they can.

My view is that once they get all the season renewals in then of course they can.
If people are stupid enough to pay up to a year in advance for tickets then that is their problem.

kroenke thinks well if they are happy enough to do that then I may as well make some profits out of the club.

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highburyJD - my posts are hardly fantasy created - I just reflect the reality of what is happening.

I would like to go back to my optimism of last season but that is impossible because of what has happened. If I was optimistic again like that then you would rightly be able to call me a deluded WUM. last season despite the poor start I was certain that we would still have a good season ( we did we came 3rd). I cannot say the same about the upcoming season.

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arseofacrow wrote:
Chippy wrote:
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:
highburyJD wrote:is there a 'block' process whereby I can avoid having to read RedWUMbers posts?

When you find out let me know too JD :lol:
Go into user control panel at the top of the page. Click Friends or Foes. Manage foes allows you to ignore any posts by the named person. 8)
Now red's negative they want to ignore. :lol: :lol:

Classic. Let's face it - we're all the same. Two sides of the same coin.

8)
I ignored him when he was positive and i def aint no fekin akfekinb, nor am in the "i hate everything Arsenal and if I chuck enough shit some of it's bound to STICK" gang either :? 8)

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augie wrote:We keep making a point about how many players have seen their careers nosedive since leaving us (petit,hleb,flaming etc) but that conveniently ignores th14, cashly, kolo, clichy and the lesbo who have all won trophies since leaving us. You have to wonder if it is possible for departing players to suffer after leaving us given that the only players that leave us nowadays are young players who can't get a game and who leave us for regular football elsewhere which is an improvement for them straight away and our top players who leave us and invariably leave us to go to top clubs that challenge for and actually win trophies : :cry:
augie

Add to your list Anelka, Van Bronkhust, and Silvinho all CL winners

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Fuck Van Persie. Fuck Wenger. Fuck the board.

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donaldo wrote:
augie wrote:We keep making a point about how many players have seen their careers nosedive since leaving us (petit,hleb,flaming etc) but that conveniently ignores th14, cashly, kolo, clichy and the lesbo who have all won trophies since leaving us. You have to wonder if it is possible for departing players to suffer after leaving us given that the only players that leave us nowadays are young players who can't get a game and who leave us for regular football elsewhere which is an improvement for them straight away and our top players who leave us and invariably leave us to go to top clubs that challenge for and actually win trophies : :cry:
augie

Add to your list Anelka, Van Bronkhust, and Silvinho all CL winners
Careers nosediving and performances deteriorating are two different things. All those players have left and achieved varying levels of team success, to be honest nobody at all is denying that RvP is improving his chances of winning major trophies by going to United. In reality, of those players only Cole can really say he's gone on to perform at his best or improved as a player after leaving. Anelka hasn't fulfilled the potential he had as an 18-year old at AFC, Henry didn't get near producing his form of 2000-05 at Barca, Toure was money for old rope, Nasri was a bit-part player last year, Clichy and Silvinho have continued to be fairly mediocre left-backs, van Bronckhorst never got off the ground here due to his injury.

Not that it really matters as their moves are largely vindicated by their success elsewhere, but I can't accept any insinuations that the likes of Henry, Vieira etc improved as players when they left AFC.

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due to there age it was quite hard for them to improve.

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