The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

[flash gunner]

Well go crying to the mods like you usually do then. I am only telling the truth.

What a childish thing to say

Well you are the person who in his capacity as a MOD felt the need to out me as someone who said something discriminatory against older people which I did not, whilst ignoring half of the other borderline stuff that has been said. I am not going to point any fingers because I wan't the debate to continue. It would take a seriously racist comment like that from Brightonxround whatever his name is to get me annoyed, and even then I would flag it up in forum not behind closed doors.

"out you" i did nothing of the sort mate. I quietly and in a friendly manner asked you to stop with any ageist comments via pm after i received a complaint. as far as im concerned no one else in this discussion even knew this took place

Now youve brought it into the open forum i'll say it again as i did in the pm to you - If you see any racist or unacceptable behaviour please flag it and us mods can have a look and decide best course of action

Yes but I didn't say anything ageist, at worst it was tongue in cheek yet you felt the need to send me a PM. Sorry thats not Moderating imo.

Moderating is exactly that to monitor what people post (whether you agree with them or not) and decide if it is within the boundries of the forum's rules.

There was no bannings or official warnings just a friendly chat to remind you that you may have been straying slightly outside the forum rules set by Mike, the owner of the Gooner fanzine. A complaint was made so it had to be looked into. Now please don't say about racist behaviour from other members unless you're happy to flag it up (anonymously if you prefer) and let someone deal with it

If you have any problems with my moderating then please contact Mike directly and see what he thinks of it

[mcdowell42]

NutFlush when you refer to me as "completely deluded" do you not realise that this is yet another personal insult?

Well go crying to the mods like you usually do then. I am only telling the truth.

For a start, I would never "go crying to the mods". I have know idea why you would think such a thing

Secondly, if you truly believe that I am completely deluded that's fine. It's your opinion. But don't state this as fact. You are not actually "telling the truth".

Personal insults have never won any arguments. I suggest you take a deep breath and calm down.

I can personally confirm that we mods have never received a complaint from olgit about any other poster. There are members here that do complain about other posters (some every time they get into a spat) but olgit ain't one of them. Not that it matters really, every member has the right to contact a mod if they feel they have been abused or bullied, but I just want to clear up that allegation.

If we warn people about insults or abuse it is because we mod the forum. We read it all and try to keep the rows and anything libelous etc to a minimum.

Interestingly there was a member here (now gone) who used to act the hard man and was fairly regularly WUMing, provoking rows, insulting people in a snide sly way that was hard to ban him for... but he was also constantly PMing me to whine when others took the bait and had a pop back at him. Arsehole.

Would he be a spurs fan

[g88ner]

Well you are the person who in his capacity as a MOD felt the need to out me as someone who said something discriminatory against older people which I did not, whilst ignoring half of the other borderline stuff that has been said. I am not going to point any fingers because I wan't the debate to continue. It would take a seriously racist comment like that from Brightonxround whatever his name is to get me annoyed, and even then I would flag it up in forum not behind closed doors.

"out you" i did nothing of the sort mate. I quietly and in a friendly manner asked you to stop with any ageist comments via pm after i received a complaint. as far as im concerned no one else in this discussion even knew this took place

Now youve brought it into the open forum i'll say it again as i did in the pm to you - If you see any racist or unacceptable behaviour please flag it and us mods can have a look and decide best course of action

ha, that's fantastic!

If I understand this correctly, Nut flush is accusing Flash of "outing" him as being ageist... and his method of outing him? - in a private discussion between flash and nut flush.... discretely via pm

And Nut flush's response to this private discussion? - he complains on the forum, in public, about being outed. bonkers

Ageist

[GoonerMuzz]

Um what age to you have to be to make comments about the elderly but not be ageist towards them? around DB's height? i meant age?? (just asking)

Anyway back to the un-elected 'leader' of this country over in Buck House, Auntie Liz has the power to dissolve parliament however other than in the run up to a general election (as requested by the sitting PM) the last time a reigning monarch did it was in about 1835, she can also veto any bill by refusing Royal Assent again the last time this one done was in 1707 so i think we're safe from her

I actually quite like the monarchy these days, they tend to just get on with things unlike those other pricks in Westminster who spend their entire lives bitching at each other and trying to play games of one upmanship - see the Brexiteers and Remoaners as an example, people like us are allowed too but they're supposed to be fucking leading the country not playing childish games with each other

[nut flush gooner]

Well you are the person who in his capacity as a MOD felt the need to out me as someone who said something discriminatory against older people which I did not, whilst ignoring half of the other borderline stuff that has been said. I am not going to point any fingers because I wan't the debate to continue. It would take a seriously racist comment like that from Brightonxround whatever his name is to get me annoyed, and even then I would flag it up in forum not behind closed doors.

"out you" i did nothing of the sort mate. I quietly and in a friendly manner asked you to stop with any ageist comments via pm after i received a complaint. as far as im concerned no one else in this discussion even knew this took place

Now youve brought it into the open forum i'll say it again as i did in the pm to you - If you see any racist or unacceptable behaviour please flag it and us mods can have a look and decide best course of action

ha, that's fantastic!

If I understand this correctly, Nut flush is accusing Flash of "outing" him as being ageist... and his method of outing him? - in a private discussion between flash and nut flush.... discretely via pm

And Nut flush's response to this private discussion? - he complains on the forum, in public, about being outed. bonkers

Ageist

I am doing nothing of the sort. Think you have the wrong end of the stick here. I didn't know that the owner of the fanzine has such an input into the forum. Given I have a good 200 editions purchased down the years, can I have a refund .

Back to the debate, hedge fund manager Crispin Odey is predicting an 80% fall in the FTSE100. Most of us have a vested interest through our pensions that the UK stock market performs. If it crashes then there you have another pressure compromising our future standards of living.

http://citywire.co.uk/money/crispin-ode ... -news-list

[DB10GOONER]

Um what age to you have to be to make comments about the elderly but not be ageist towards them? around DB's height? i meant age?? (just asking)

Anyway back to the un-elected 'leader' of this country over in Buck House, Auntie Liz has the power to dissolve parliament however other than in the run up to a general election (as requested by the sitting PM) the last time a reigning monarch did it was in about 1835, she can also veto any bill by refusing Royal Assent again the last time this one done was in 1707 so i think we're safe from her

I actually quite like the monarchy these days, they tend to just get on with things unlike those other pricks in Westminster who spend their entire lives bitching at each other and trying to play games of one upmanship - see the Brexiteers and Remoaners as an example, people like us are allowed too but they're supposed to be fucking leading the country not playing childish games with each other

Not really the point. The point is that in a democracy, you have an unelected woman that has that power by birthright...

To me, as an anti-royalist, that is disgraceful tbh. And I'm not ant-royalist in an Oirish Republican way either, I'm anti-ALL-royals, everywhere. It's a disgusting concept that these people can be born into positions of privilege and (in some cases) power and have not worked to earn it.

[GranadaJoe]

Um what age to you have to be to make comments about the elderly but not be ageist towards them? around DB's height? i meant age?? (just asking)

Anyway back to the un-elected 'leader' of this country over in Buck House, Auntie Liz has the power to dissolve parliament however other than in the run up to a general election (as requested by the sitting PM) the last time a reigning monarch did it was in about 1835, she can also veto any bill by refusing Royal Assent again the last time this one done was in 1707 so i think we're safe from her

I actually quite like the monarchy these days, they tend to just get on with things unlike those other pricks in Westminster who spend their entire lives bitching at each other and trying to play games of one upmanship - see the Brexiteers and Remoaners as an example, people like us are allowed too but they're supposed to be fucking leading the country not playing childish games with each other

Not really the point. The point is that in a democracy, you have an unelected woman that has that power by birthright...

To me, as an anti-royalist, that is disgraceful tbh. And I'm not ant-royalist in an Oirish Republican way either, I'm anti-ALL-royals, everywhere. It's a disgusting concept that these people can be born into positions of privilege and (in some cases) power and have not worked to earn it.

I'm English and I hate the institution of the Royal family.
Our legal status is 'subjects of her majesty', not citizens of our country. The sight, post-election, when 30 million people have voted for a govt, of the leader of the biggest party having to travel to Buck House to ask if it's OK to form a govt , is gross.
Our national anthem FFS asks a non-existent magic man in the sky to particularly look after one of the richest, most mollycoddled women in the world. Nothing about the country or its people.
Her family go to the best schools, have the best tutors yet still end up thick as pigshit, though it doesn't stop them from going to the best universities.
They have massive wealth and own massive tracts of the country. Wealth and power they use to further their own interests.
Is our class system so embedded in our national psyche that we are happy to tug our forelocks to this group of elite inbreds? People who only hold their position because of historical oppression, violence and nasty political deals of their antecedents.

Some years ago, British people were asked if they were proud of British history. 80% said YES. However, when asked a series of questions about said history, they got 80% of the questions wrong.
We've barely had an English monarch in 1,000 years, so at least we can prove a history of allowing immigration.

The most common argument in favour of the royal family is that they attract tourists. Definitely the best basis for a political system. So Mickey Mouse for king?

Anyone affected by this rant should visit Republic.org.uk.

[DB10GOONER]

Um what age to you have to be to make comments about the elderly but not be ageist towards them? around DB's height? i meant age?? (just asking)

Anyway back to the un-elected 'leader' of this country over in Buck House, Auntie Liz has the power to dissolve parliament however other than in the run up to a general election (as requested by the sitting PM) the last time a reigning monarch did it was in about 1835, she can also veto any bill by refusing Royal Assent again the last time this one done was in 1707 so i think we're safe from her

I actually quite like the monarchy these days, they tend to just get on with things unlike those other pricks in Westminster who spend their entire lives bitching at each other and trying to play games of one upmanship - see the Brexiteers and Remoaners as an example, people like us are allowed too but they're supposed to be fucking leading the country not playing childish games with each other

Not really the point. The point is that in a democracy, you have an unelected woman that has that power by birthright...

To me, as an anti-royalist, that is disgraceful tbh. And I'm not ant-royalist in an Oirish Republican way either, I'm anti-ALL-royals, everywhere. It's a disgusting concept that these people can be born into positions of privilege and (in some cases) power and have not worked to earn it.

I'm English and I hate the institution of the Royal family.
Our legal status is 'subjects of her majesty', not citizens of our country. The sight, post-election, when 30 million people have voted for a govt, of the leader of the biggest party having to travel to Buck House to ask if it's OK to form a govt , is gross.
Our national anthem FFS asks a non-existent magic man in the sky to particularly look after one of the richest, most mollycoddled women in the world. Nothing about the country or its people.
Her family go to the best schools, have the best tutors yet still end up thick as pigshit, though it doesn't stop them from going to the best universities.
They have massive wealth and own massive tracts of the country. Wealth and power they use to further their own interests.
Is our class system so embedded in our national psyche that we are happy to tug our forelocks to this group of elite inbreds? People who only hold their position because of historical oppression, violence and nasty political deals of their antecedents.

Some years ago, British people were asked if they were proud of British history. 80% said YES. However, when asked a series of questions about said history, they got 80% of the questions wrong.
We've barely had an English monarch in 1,000 years, so at least we can prove a history of allowing immigration.

The most common argument in favour of the royal family is that they attract tourists. Definitely the best basis for a political system. So Mickey Mouse for king?

Anyone affected by this rant should visit Republic.org.uk.

Well said that man.




(except the bit about God. His son, Baby Jebus ain't happy with you, Joe... not at all...)

[Gunner Rob]

how have we got on to the monarchy?

anyhow turns out Article 50 which the leavers are so desperate to invoke might not end in the inevitable Brexit that we thought.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-37852628

I imagine what will happen is that PM Mayhem will invoke Article 50 sometime in the spring, cause utter chaos to the money markets, massive inflation, rising unemployment and within 2 years she will have to make sure that the UK does not leave the EU to give herself a chance of being re elected in 2020.

My view is this: in the long run the backlash against the government will be far greater if we do leave the EU than if we don't.
yes there will be a few old whingers who will vote for UKIP but these will steadily die out over the next few years anyway.

[flash gunner]

how have we got on to the monarchy?

anyhow turns out Article 50 which the leavers are so desperate to invoke might not end in the inevitable Brexit that we thought.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-37852628

I imagine what will happen is that PM Mayhem will invoke Article 50 sometime in the spring, cause utter chaos to the money markets, massive inflation, rising unemployment and within 2 years she will have to make sure that the UK does not leave the EU to give herself a chance of being re elected in 2020.

My view is this: in the long run the backlash against the government will be far greater if we do leave the EU than if we don't.
yes there will be a few old whingers who will vote for UKIP but these will steadily die out over the next few years anyway.

That last sentence is one of the shittiest things ive read on this forum for a while You and Nut Ageist Gooner are doing nothing for your side of the arguement

Going by your pathetic David Attenborough analogy ..... I Wonder what Bruce Forsyth's opinion is?

[DB10GOONER]

how have we got on to the monarchy?

Because we fucking felt like it.

You would never have survived on this forum back in the day. Not one single thread would stay on track beyond 5 posts.

[DB10GOONER]

how have we got on to the monarchy?

anyhow turns out Article 50 which the leavers are so desperate to invoke might not end in the inevitable Brexit that we thought.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-37852628

I imagine what will happen is that PM Mayhem will invoke Article 50 sometime in the spring, cause utter chaos to the money markets, massive inflation, rising unemployment and within 2 years she will have to make sure that the UK does not leave the EU to give herself a chance of being re elected in 2020.

My view is this: in the long run the backlash against the government will be far greater if we do leave the EU than if we don't.
yes there will be a few old whingers who will vote for UKIP but these will steadily die out over the next few years anyway.

That last sentence is one of the shittiest things ive read on this forum for a while You and Nut Ageist Gooner are doing nothing for your side of the arguement

Going by your pathetic David Attenborough analogy ..... I Wonder what Bruce Forsyth's opinion is?

"Ooh - Brucie bonus! fuh fuh fuh!!"

[Gunner Rob]

oh dear, Parliament is now going to have to be consulted before Article 50 can be triggered.

[nut flush gooner]

how have we got on to the monarchy?

anyhow turns out Article 50 which the leavers are so desperate to invoke might not end in the inevitable Brexit that we thought.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-37852628

I imagine what will happen is that PM Mayhem will invoke Article 50 sometime in the spring, cause utter chaos to the money markets, massive inflation, rising unemployment and within 2 years she will have to make sure that the UK does not leave the EU to give herself a chance of being re elected in 2020.

My view is this: in the long run the backlash against the government will be far greater if we do leave the EU than if we don't.
yes there will be a few old whingers who will vote for UKIP but these will steadily die out over the next few years anyway.

That last sentence is one of the shittiest things ive read on this forum for a while You and Nut Ageist Gooner are doing nothing for your side of the arguement

Going by your pathetic David Attenborough analogy ..... I Wonder what Bruce Forsyth's opinion is?

I do feel the need to pull you up again Flash. I can't speak for anyone else but you say I have done nothing for the debate but when I specifically get into a dialogue with you, there is nothing that you can back your words up with. I am not going to waste my time trawling through what is becoming an epic thread to highlight my point but let's just start on a clean slate ehh, and see if you carry on in that vein.

It's ridiculous to bring the Queen into the Brexit debate, the monarchy has had no influence on policy decisions for decades even centuries. She may be head of state, but she does not decide our Brexit strategy, perhaps we should be focusing on that and how we don't make a pigs ear out of it.

[nut flush gooner]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857785

At last some common sense. I am not having an unelected PM deciding our path out of the EU. She needs to be accountable in some form.