THE WENGER THREAD

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Robin_L wrote:Giroud's a quality striker and it's increasingly hilarious some of the idiots on here continue to knock the guy as the goals keep flying in 8)

THe way some go on on here you'd think he was Kaba Diawara :lol:
but he fires blanks against the likes of the chavs,utd etc etc,hes a flat track bully just like the whole team :shock:

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markyp wrote:
Robin_L wrote:Giroud's a quality striker and it's increasingly hilarious some of the idiots on here continue to knock the guy as the goals keep flying in 8)

THe way some go on on here you'd think he was Kaba Diawara :lol:
but he fires blanks against the likes of the chavs,utd etc etc,hes a flat track bully just like the whole team :shock:
This season hasnt he scored v Citeh twice and UTD :rubchin:

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Theoperator wrote:
markyp wrote:
Robin_L wrote:Giroud's a quality striker and it's increasingly hilarious some of the idiots on here continue to knock the guy as the goals keep flying in 8)

THe way some go on on here you'd think he was Kaba Diawara :lol:
but he fires blanks against the likes of the chavs,utd etc etc,hes a flat track bully just like the whole team :shock:
This season hasnt he scored v Citeh twice and UTD :rubchin:
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And the victims

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Theoperator wrote:
markyp wrote:
Robin_L wrote:Giroud's a quality striker and it's increasingly hilarious some of the idiots on here continue to knock the guy as the goals keep flying in 8)

THe way some go on on here you'd think he was Kaba Diawara :lol:
but he fires blanks against the likes of the chavs,utd etc etc,hes a flat track bully just like the whole team :shock:
This season hasnt he scored v Citeh twice and UTD :rubchin:
.

And the victims
wait till we play the chavs and he's bullied out of it.so you lot are saying fuck costa,suarez etc etc youd rather have giroud,at a club like Arsenal too,remember when we Wiltord as a back up?hed walk straight into this team.and its only taken giroud 3 seasons to net against city,liverpool etc,great striker im sure,great back up is what he should be :shock:

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Robin_L wrote:Giroud's a quality striker and it's increasingly hilarious some of the idiots on here continue to knock the guy as the goals keep flying in 8)

THe way some go on on here you'd think he was Kaba Diawara :lol:
Quality compared to the likes of Aguero and Costa though?

When was the last time a side won the PL with such a poor first-choice striker?

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Giroud isn't a world class striker, but surely his general form this season shows that he is good or at least useful.

I was a fierce critic of the guy but he has improved. He has his uses, and even though I want another striker brought in I would still see Giroud as a very useful part of the squad.

he has been elevated out of the gerivinho/chamakh/podolski class and into something resembling an Arsenal striker.

I always wanted a fast mobile striker who can finish (rules out welbeck), to maximise the potential of this team.

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Would prefer Chomper any day of course, and we (Almost- if true ) all wish we had stumped up a few more pence. But he would have left us as he did the victims.

As for Costa, would just prefer him over Giroud, but theres less in it this season methinks.

Will have to see V Chavs, but think he never scores against :blah: :blah: is overplayed, this started with Ike and keeps on, he is quite capable of giving as we saw with a headbut :oops: .

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markyp wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:
Theoperator wrote:
markyp wrote:
Robin_L wrote:Giroud's a quality striker and it's increasingly hilarious some of the idiots on here continue to knock the guy as the goals keep flying in 8)

THe way some go on on here you'd think he was Kaba Diawara :lol:
but he fires blanks against the likes of the chavs,utd etc etc,hes a flat track bully just like the whole team :shock:
This season hasnt he scored v Citeh twice and UTD :rubchin:
.

And the victims
wait till we play the chavs and he's bullied out of it.so you lot are saying fuck costa,suarez etc etc youd rather have giroud,at a club like Arsenal too,remember when we Wiltord as a back up?hed walk straight into this team.and its only taken giroud 3 seasons to net against city,liverpool etc,great striker im sure,great back up is what he should be :shock:


You got all tht from my post, :lol:

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Supagoon wrote:Giroud isn't a world class striker, but surely his general form this season shows that he is good or at least useful.

I was a fierce critic of the guy but he has improved. He has his uses, and even though I want another striker brought in I would still see Giroud as a very useful part of the squad.

he has been elevated out of the gerivinho/chamakh/podolski class and into something resembling an Arsenal striker.

I always wanted a fast mobile striker who can finish (rules out welbeck), to maximise the potential of this team.
I agree Giroud IS a damn good striker - He is strong, keeps running, though for striker he is a tad slow - He mostly wins the ball in the air when it comes to him - He has shown some very good touches to score and always "tries" unlike some players from the recent past - He is inconsistent though...He missed 5 chances against Monaco at home - Not all clear cut- But a 1st Class striker would have buried them...I think he is a very good squad player that most managers would employ in their Plan B or C - If Plan A wasn't working - Considering we are a tippy, tappy passing the ball to death team - He has done well....But as we all know wenker doesn't have a Plan B or C...and so he is expected to fit into Plan A - which is tippy, tappy - also with Gibbs on the left flank - who cannot cross a ball to save his life - it is good to have players like Bellerin and Monreal who Can Cross a Ball - which suits Giroud...also if Ozil can pick his passes more regularly - he would give Giroud all the ammunition he needs to score more.

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the thing with giroud is he is afforded the luxury of zero competition and that is mostly as hes French so he will start 99% of games.any striker of any half decent ablility given a free reign like giroud would perform as well as giroud,he has no pressure at all.if he were in and out of the team ala Pod,Welbeck(as a cf)walnut(as a cf)Campbell ,then is record would be shite .despite my gripe with giroud I must say this is season he has been very reliable but world class,NEVER :shock:

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I know a lot of people on here don't rate Welbeck..but I think he will come good - He really is one of those players that needs a consistent run of starting and finishing games - not on the flanks - so with wenker the mastermind(NOT!) in charge he is unlikely to get many games as our striker...

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OneBardGooner wrote:I know a lot of people on here don't rate Welbeck..but I think he will come good - He really is one of those players that needs a consistent run of starting and finishing games - not on the flanks - so with wenker the mastermind(NOT!) in charge he is unlikely to get many games as our striker...
I agree,give him a decent run,not 10 games,but 20 at least as a cf and he could be our Sturridge,Sturridge was gash everywhere until he was shown some love and a bit of faith,now look at him

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markyp wrote:
Robin_L wrote:Giroud's a quality striker and it's increasingly hilarious some of the idiots on here continue to knock the guy as the goals keep flying in 8)

THe way some go on on here you'd think he was Kaba Diawara :lol:
but he fires blanks against the likes of the chavs,utd etc etc,hes a flat track bully just like the whole team :shock:
Well at least he is scoring them, which is more then Wellbeck is. I like Wellbeck but he does need to find the net.

I note quiet sure how, but we have a good chance to finish 2nd or 3rd this season.... :D

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Theoperator wrote:
markyp wrote:
Robin_L wrote:Giroud's a quality striker and it's increasingly hilarious some of the idiots on here continue to knock the guy as the goals keep flying in 8)

THe way some go on on here you'd think he was Kaba Diawara :lol:
but he fires blanks against the likes of the chavs,utd etc etc,hes a flat track bully just like the whole team :shock:
This season hasnt he scored v Citeh twice and UTD :rubchin:
.

And the victims

Yes, yes he's scored v City twice

and Utd

and the victims

and got a winner in the NLD (not this season)

but apart from that he doesn't score in the matches that matter. (apologies to the pythons )

My opinion is that he is a very good team player, who isn't selfish and produces some great layoffs for team mates.

What he is never going to do is dribble past 2/3 players and score, which we have had and probably expect now from our forwards from Wright through Henry to RVP. Running at players, taking them on is one of the most exciting things in football

If we play to his strengths, good quality ariel balls, near post crosses and someone running beyond for him to flick it to he is good enough to lead the line. Given the quality of our delivery's ( Gibbs, Sagna etc) he could well have been getting more goals with better service.

When we play it so bloody slowly that the opposition have 9 defenders to break down, he doesn't have the guile or footwork to create for himself. That is more a problem with our approach, most strikers would struggle.

If he cut out the histrionics after a challenge or the anguish and looks of incredulity after missing a chance he would endear himself a lot more to me but by and large I think he is decent. *

* not that I wouldn't be against an upgrade :)

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Giroud a quality striker LOL. Superb.
So does that make Harry Kane Pele then? :roll:
Yes Giroud scored against United...errrrm in a match we lost and when he came on as a sub with the game done.
Giroud scored a tap-in at Anfield in a game, yep, we didn't win.
Fair play he scored at Citeh - a header from 2 yards out but they all count.
Giroud has improved of late but let's stop the bullshit, he is inferior to the true top quality strikers and there's a simple reason for that: Aguero can win a game for you out of nothing. I've watched Diego Costa rip a Mourinho team to shreds in Spain and then, in the CL again. RVP on fire can score one out of nothing. Suarez, see Clasico goal yesterday.
Giroud is far, far too limited a player to ever be top class, he never will be. It's interesting that at his age, he's never been close to being first choice for France - even when at his worst, Benzema will always get the nod of him, shit even that Lacazette guy is rated higher! Giroud's problem is that he will never win you a game. You'll never see Giroud run in behind a defence as he has sod all pace.
That Monaco game was a joke, it cost us elimination - 6 clear chances and not a shot on target. That's not an off day, it's just woeful. Giroud can't dribble, his first touch is 60-40, and he isn't difficult for top defenders to play against. It is hilarious reading the "Giroud is a quality striker" jokes mind. I'd put him beneath Kanu (not first choice for us).
Basically Giroud wouldn't be first choice striker at any elite club - no way.
Giroud plays for Arsenal where you'll get 100 chances a season so he's bound to get a few. Didn't Adebayor get 30 goals in all comps for us? :shock:
Just another case of low standards at the club. In 2004 Giroud wouldn't have been allowed to drive the Arsenal team bus FFS. He scores 2 scraped tap-ins at Newcastle, and often scored loads at home, against rubbish teams. And that's without even going into his laughable performances against Chelski :roll:
I believe the star is that last season in 2 games against them, he managed 1 shot on target. Amazing.
He's improved but then again, stick Danny Ings up front being given endless chances on a plate from Ozil, Cazorla etc and he'd manage a decent goal haul, Adebayor is proof enough of that :lol: :oops:

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