As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
GranadaJoe wrote:If someone has the opportunity to be a footballer. To play a game you love and to earn squillions into the bargain the responsibility lies with them and them alone.
Bellend pissed his career up the wall (literally). You can maybe question his parents but neither the club, nor AW bear any responsibility.
He was given plenty of opportunities and continually failed. The lack of clubs interested in signing him bears testimony to his character and ability.
Agree with this 100%. He had talent and could have been a very good player, but decided that his personal life was more important than what actually thrust him in the public eye, which was the football.
He could still turn it around, but I think it will be at a mid table team in any of the leagues.
Nah, cant agree, the club have a massive resposibility to nurture theplayers off the field. Jeez they suddenly have millions, and you just leave players you invest millions into to just do as they please? Course the personality etc is important but such things can be dealt with. Always felt for example that Le sulk would have done better staying with us, as somehow he seemed to give the best with us- maybe good man management there I dont know.
I know they cant be looked after 24hrs a day, but neither should they be left to do as they please. Basic man management stuff is surely important, Which is my point, the guy was obviously out of shape and control, physically and with the ball , yet our very thin backroom staff appear to have been unable to deal with it.
GranadaJoe wrote:If someone has the opportunity to be a footballer. To play a game you love and to earn squillions into the bargain the responsibility lies with them and them alone.
Bellend pissed his career up the wall (literally). You can maybe question his parents but neither the club, nor AW bear any responsibility.
He was given plenty of opportunities and continually failed. The lack of clubs interested in signing him bears testimony to his character and ability.
Agree with this 100%. He had talent and could have been a very good player, but decided that his personal life was more important than what actually thrust him in the public eye, which was the football.
He could still turn it around, but I think it will be at a mid table team in any of the leagues.
Nah, cant agree, the club have a massive resposibility to nurture theplayers off the field. Jeez they suddenly have millions, and you just leave players you invest millions into to just do as they please? Course the personality etc is important but such things can be dealt with. Always felt for example that Le sulk would have done better staying with us, as somehow he seemed to give the best with us- maybe good man management there I dont know.
I know they cant be looked after 24hrs a day, but neither should they be left to do as they please. Basic man management stuff is surely important, Which is my point, the guy was obviously out of shape and control, physically and with the ball , yet our very thin backroom staff appear to have been unable to deal with it.
Methinks we have a few posters here that forget that the Fat Drunk had the first touch of a blind rapist with hammers for hands.
I didnt used to have the heartsink moment when he played at first, he didnt develop and went backwards, or has he always been backwards and my rose tinted specs have slipped
Den10kamp wrote:
Whether Bendtner will move to either club, though remains in question as the Danish international is said to be demanding a salary and sign-on fee of around 40 million euros per year.
Oh my goodness... Is that true?
I thought you were just carrying on the jest found within this thread... Wow.
I really don't know what to think - how can someone be that deranged?
He wants to earn double that of Cristiano Ronaldo and become the highest paid footballer of all time?
Den10kamp wrote:
Whether Bendtner will move to either club, though remains in question as the Danish international is said to be demanding a salary and sign-on fee of around 40 million euros per year.
Oh my goodness... Is that true?
I thought you were just carrying on the jest found within this thread... Wow.
I really don't know what to think - how can someone be that deranged?
He wants to earn double that of Cristiano Ronaldo and become the highest paid footballer of all time?
He truly is a legend...
I think he means the signing on fee, when spread out over the (for example) 5 years of a contract, added to his wages would amount to the equivilent of €40million a year? But I could be wrong. God knows the Fat Drunk is deluded and fucked in the head just enough to be actually looking for €40million a year in wages alone!
I can't believe how anyone cannot see what a top quality player he is.
The man is a fucking legend! Every time he put on an Arsenal shirt he excelled. Some of his goals were incredible and his teamplay was second to none. You could see how other players looked to him for inspiration. In his recent autobiography AW is quoted as saying "Dennis is the................ oh wait a moment. I thought we were talking about a world class striker for a moment, now I realise we are talking about a player rejected by Sunderland
DB10GOONER wrote:
I think he means the signing on fee, when spread out over the (for example) 5 years of a contract, added to his wages would amount to the equivilent of €40million a year? But I could be wrong. God knows the Fat Drunk is deluded and fucked in the head just enough to be actually looking for €40million a year in wages alone!
Aye, I think you must be right - I doubt even the dear, deluded Dane could conjure up the audacity to ask for 40 million annually.
As I've said ad nauseam he plays very well for Denmark but even they are sick of him and he didn't feature in their friendly against Sweden .
If he can stay sober and concentrate on football he could be a 20 goal plus player in the Bundesliga or 15 in the premiership with a half decent side if played as a center forward .
If he had been given this task at Arsenal he would have done better than Giroud has as he is a better player but Giroud works much harder.
Herd wrote:As I've said ad nauseam he plays very well for Denmark but even they are sick of him and he didn't feature in their friendly against Sweden .
If he can stay sober and concentrate on football he could be a 20 goal plus player in the Bundesliga or 15 in the premiership with a half decent side if played as a center forward .
If he had been given this task at Arsenal he would have done better than Giroud has as he is a better player but Giroud works much harder.
Absolutely cannot agree, Herd. Giroud is not world class, we all know that, but apart from the fact he does indeed work alot harder, he also has a far superior finish, first touch and pass then Bendtner. He wins more in the air and holds the ball up better. He has the (limited) ability to interact in tight passing movements with our midfield which Bendtner simply does not have to any degree. Bendtner's first touch is appalling. His passing often quite poor and his work rate practically non existent.
I'd also disagree he plays very well for Denmark. He does ok but not great.
. Bendtner's first touch is appalling. His passing often quite poor and his work rate practically non existent.
But all of those things can be sorted with practice cant they ? I know hes turned out shit but at the start of his time with us I had some good skills and thats all fizzled out- my point is that the training and team supervision surely have something to answer with him.
Seen somewhere that DB10 with legs was regularly out last practicing, inspired others- looking at the people round Bendy didnt exactly do the same over the past few seasons.
Im glad hes gone of course, but maybe theres something that the Medical team review could extend into looking at Bendy Frimpong and the like and see how the talent they had has gone west.
DB and I will never agree on this one but for me 24 Goals in 56 games for Denmark is pretty impressive for a team that doesn't create many chances per game and struggles for goals !
Not only that some of his goals have come in big matches against the likes of Portugal and Italy so he can hold himself in good company.
Whilst his tenure at Arsenal has been a failure we rarely played him in the role that Giroud now occupies instead he was almost a winger and we never gave him a run of games like we did Giroud .
He is a cock but I do believe he can still be successful if he knuckles under !
, yet our very thin backroom staff appear to have been unable to deal with it.
