As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
DB10GOONER wrote:Barclay saying; “For Arsenal followers to imply some diminution in Wenger’s judgment — I assume they thought he was quite good when winning Doubles and so on — went too far” is just fucking ridiculous. He seems to think we have only suddenly had a problem with Wenger out of the blue, with no point of reference. Yet he actually clearly quotes that point of reference himself, the gobshite!!
Yes we did think he was quite good when he was winning Doubles and so on, that is a bit fucking obvious and self-explanatory for the love of Christ, but we now think he is not quite good because he has failed to win ANYTHING for 7 years, all because he has repeatedly failed to address very obvious problems with the squad!
Thus he has VERY CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED DIMINUATION IN HIS JUDGEMENT, BARCLAY YOU FUCKING SPACKER – THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT FOR FUCKS SAKE!!
I'm sure there were people that thought Tony Blair was doing a good job in those first few months/years of being PM, but does that mean he should still be PM now? Because he once (years ago) did a good job? Fucking mental way to look at things...
Why is Bobby Charlton not still playing for England? They won the bloody world cup when he was in the team, now he can't get even get in the fucking squad ahead of Leon Osman!
Why is Sean Connery not still James Bond? For them to label him the "best Bond ever" and then give the job to that Daniel Craig bloke instead is beyond ungrateful. I demand to see Connery chasing after supervillians in a motorised wheelchair, "skiing" down the side of a mountain on a stanna stairlift and pissing the Martini pumped into him through a drip straight back out into a colostomy bag that turns into an inflatable speedboat with one click of an arthritic knuckle.
Speaking of James Bond, why are young boys not still wanking over Ursula Andress? I suppose 13 year old lads considered her quite hot in 1960. That they refuse to knock one out over her saggy turkey neck and skinned Siamese cat face today is too far. Too far!
Fuck off back to Star Trek, Barclay, you sycophantic wankstain. And take Gervinho with you. Seriously, even by the usual gutter standards what a piss-poor piece of "journalism."
You're welcome to swap managers any time you like Tomas !
In 8 years time when he's pissing you lot off, telling you all to be patient and you're watching a style of football on a par with the England national team and then have to listen to the bloke make patronising remarks in every post match interview.....you'll realise how fucking irritating it is mate !
Hi Steve,
Mate I know what you mean. Just wanted to mention that after the game, a manager grilled by some of these media people can be really pissed. Just love his quote
Looking from the outside and a different country, Wenger had always a positive image I guess and to be fair he did built a legacy with Arsenal. I think he just missed the exit point and now he is in his own mind loop.
Again, not wanted to step on anybody feets but I guess the club needs some fresh air and a new way. But that could also mean that you have to accept some back drops before you regain power again.
Cheers,
Thomas
P.S.: And no, manager from Dortmund is not available for the job !
You're welcome to swap managers any time you like Tomas !
In 8 years time when he's pissing you lot off, telling you all to be patient and you're watching a style of football on a par with the England national team and then have to listen to the bloke make patronising remarks in every post match interview.....you'll realise how fucking irritating it is mate !
Hi Steve,
Mate I know what you mean. Just wanted to mention that after the game, a manager grilled by some of these media people can be really pissed. Just love his quote
Looking from the outside and a different country, Wenger had always a positive image I guess and to be fair he did built a legacy with Arsenal. I think he just missed the exit point and now he is in his own mind loop.
Again, not wanted to step on anybody feets but I guess the club needs some fresh air and a new way. But that could also mean that you have to accept some back drops before you regain power again.
Cheers,
Thomas
P.S.: And no, manager from Dortmund is not available for the job !
Hi Thomas, you make some very valid points there, mate. I feel it’s a shame that Wenger may now be remembered as much for his antics on the sidelines, his mad statements during press conferences and also for staying too long (like Clough at Forest) as for the Doubles he won and the amazing Unbeaten PL season.
I think most of us could accept a step or two backwards if we thought the problems were being addressed, but the thing with Wenger is we’ve taken step after step backwards and the same problems are not being addressed.
I don’t hate Arsene the way some on here do – I still love him for what he achieved for us and the great times I’ve had supporting Arsenal under his charge, but he is way past his best and we need a change. Similarly I loved George Graham but was glad he went when he did because he too was past his best by then.
Im listening to the fans phone in on pravda.com or should i say the fannies phone in fuck me its like a wenger love in.. however a guy called Ian from Bridgewater just phoned in and tore Le wanker a new arsehole quality
goonerwalker wrote:AW clearly has his faults and must take a share of the blame for us not currently being in a postion to challenge for the title, but to say he is 'poisioning the club' is simply ridiculous. To lack any respect for the man after what he has achieved for us is ungrateful and very short-sighted. I'm not an AKB but I have the decency to accept that he's still a good manager. Anyway, for me the greater evil is the board, who's exploitation of Arsenal's fanbase through their charging of extortionate ticket prices and complete disresgard for the fans' thoughts and priorities are killing our club more than any manager could
Why does - "I'm not an AKB" always have to be followed by "but"?
Do we really have to be so narrow-minded as to say that all Gooners have to either think Wenger is a God or that he is evil? I'm not an AKB but I do have a lot of respect for AW, is that not a reasonable stance to take?
Im just emphasising that fans can be somewhere in between the two extremes, and that some of us do have more complex thoughts than the many stubborn and moronic AMGs and AKBs
I know mate but still every time you see "I'm not an AKB" its followed by "but"
I posted this on another thread. Its my definition of AKB, and WOB. ....................
armchair supporter wrote:It really is quite simple.............
If you think Wenger should leave or be sacked you're WOB......
If you dont you're AKB.
Now I dont mind being called WOB but it seems theres AKB's who dont like being called AKB. In fact I've yet to meet an AKB who admits it. They always say......."I'm not an AKB but.........."
Now I know theres those who may say.."I know Wenger isn't perfect. Not good with tactics. Defence. Plan B, etc etc , I recognise these failings so therefore I am not an AKB"
Well yes, literally you know that Arsene doesn't always "know" but in my opinion you're still an "AKB" if you want him to stay.
Now dont get me wrong. I disagree with the AKB and their opinions but I'll fight to the death for their right to have those beliefs.
The huge fuss over the new Bank of England governor earning £624,000 a year really puts things into perspective about modern-day football. This man, widely regarded to be the best in the world in his field, shoulders the huge weight of responsibility for the fundamental decisions relating to the British economy during one of the worst recessions in history. Basically, our economy depends significantly on his performance. Yet his pay packet and appointment have already been scrutinised and, in certain quarters, criticised.
Meanwhile, Arsene Wenger earns in excess of ten times that figure for managing a football team. Very poorly for the last 6-8 years. Where are the mass media crying out against the morality of this? Instead, there are literally hundreds of thousands of sycophants who think that the man is a saint who can do no wrong, and that we are exceptionally lucky that he shows such tremendous loyalty.
Gooner Podcast questions Arsene's mental health and suggest he may be going/gone insane. I think this is a very valid point and to back it up I will quote Albert Einstein;
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I wish the journo who had the balls to front up Arsene (don't know who it was) could have responded to his 30 years in management jibe, with a reposte of his own regarding his tenure at Monaco.............
What happened there then Arsene, created a great team, dismantled it, replaced with youth prospects which didn't come off and got sacked
somebody in Monaco obviously thought he didn't know what he was doing.
He has always talked shit in interviews ,so why change ?
The media are now on his back and most seem pleased with it,but is that such a good thing ???
Personally I hate it when the jackals of fleet street, manipulate and manufacture situations to hound people in life and in football so i can't support it,besides it's our problem not theirs.
The problem with the "Wenger out" Brigade as far as I see it is that none of them have any balls !
The only form of protest has been to moan day after day on here and other forums about le prof ,going over the same old ground day in and day out for the past 3/4 years with the sum total of action being a banner that never got put up !
There are some that Boycott and whilst I understand them it wont make a scrap of difference,asthey are and will be replaced by premium paying tourists.
If people want to do something, they should grow a pair of cojones and get on with it FFS !
Problem is no-one will pop their heads over the laptop and would rather the press do it for them ,COWARDS !
Herd wrote:He has always talked shit in interviews ,so why change ?
The media are now on his back and most seem pleased with it,but is that such a good thing ???
Personally I hate it when the jackals of fleet street, manipulate and manufacture situations to hound people in life and in football so i can't support it,besides it's our problem not theirs.
The problem with the "Wenger out" Brigade as far as I see it is that none of them have any balls !
The only form of protest has been to moan day after day on here and other forums about le prof ,going over the same old ground day in and day out for the past 3/4 years with the sum total of action being a banner that never got put up !
There are some that Boycott and whilst I understand them it wont make a scrap of difference,asthey are and will be replaced by premium paying tourists.
If people want to do something, they should grow a pair of cojones and get on with it FFS !
Problem is no-one will pop their heads over the laptop and would rather the press do it for them ,COWARDS !
Herd, the problem with the WOB is that we are still a vocal minority whereas the AKB are legion.
Regardless of whether it's in the majority ,if the WOB thinks that it is right then it surely must organise and act , it would be morally wrong not to !
The one positive thing to emerge from this is that more people are beginning to shift their opinions away from a position of respect to one of contempt for the condescending arsehole.
Anyway, that's enough about Patrick Barclay......this thread is supposed to be about Wenger
Seriously, even by the usual gutter standards what a piss-poor piece of "journalism." 
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