Abou Diaby - Injuries Thread

[Zimgooner]

No offence, but take a day off, mate. Nobody wished the chap ill. Nobody said they were happy he got injured. And yes every fucker and his cousin has had a pop at Wenger for the folly of extending Diaby's contracts etc etc etc. Being happy we have released a guy that delivered proper fuck all but was paid the guts of £30million over a ten year spell doesn't make anyone the Antichrist!

But tbh, my sympathy for Diaby is limited. He will never have to work another day in his life. He hasn't earned that. I will though. I will have to work fucking hard for the rest of my life to pay for my home, my kids education etc. So forgive me if I'm not too upset at the multi-millionaire Abou Diaby being released. M'kay?

I still maintain that Diaby deserved everything we offered him and you going-off about the wages he picked up while injured is muppetry at its finest. You keep saying that we shouldn't feel sorry for him because he still got £30 million out of it; that's incredibly mean-minded. You don’t even know what percentage of his wages was covered by insurance. Not everything is about the money. You are now parroting the money line peddled by the club, like all idiots that celebrate it as if they stand to gain from the riches made out of it. There is no evidence whatsoever that the £30 million could have been invested in the squad and made a difference to how we performed in the 10 years Diaby was on the books.

Diaby could have been one of the best midfielders but instead he's achieved absolutely nothing through no fault of his own, but the "let's get in their face" and "we got to let them know we're there" philosophy adopted by Neanderthal British managers, pundits and players. No one will remember him for what he did on the pitch. That must be incredibly frustrating for him, not to mention getting up every morning and knowing full well that he won't be able to do the thing that he's worked his entirely life for. I would like to see how you'd fare after a person shatters your hand. See how you would be able to sit at work in front of your pc with aching hand and creeping doubt in your mind! I somehow suspect you would take to your bed and never get back to work. Diaby wasn’t sitting around on his arse and not trying to make an effort to get back on the pitch. Make no mistake! He wasn’t kept by Wenger out of kindness or some sentimental shit. He was kept because if fit he simply is amazing. The guy has the lot; physical strength, vision, goals, control and bags of ability. Unfortunately, you are reminiscent of a modern football supporter living in a world flooded with greed, short-sightedness and cynical pragmatism.

[augie]

No offence, but take a day off, mate. Nobody wished the chap ill. Nobody said they were happy he got injured. And yes every fucker and his cousin has had a pop at Wenger for the folly of extending Diaby's contracts etc etc etc. Being happy we have released a guy that delivered proper fuck all but was paid the guts of £30million over a ten year spell doesn't make anyone the Antichrist!

But tbh, my sympathy for Diaby is limited. He will never have to work another day in his life. He hasn't earned that. I will though. I will have to work fucking hard for the rest of my life to pay for my home, my kids education etc. So forgive me if I'm not too upset at the multi-millionaire Abou Diaby being released. M'kay?

I still maintain that Diaby deserved everything we offered him and you going-off about the wages he picked up while injured is muppetry at its finest. You keep saying that we shouldn't feel sorry for him because he still got £30 million out of it; that's incredibly mean-minded. You don’t even know what percentage of his wages was covered by insurance. Not everything is about the money. You are now parroting the money line peddled by the club, like all idiots that celebrate it as if they stand to gain from the riches made out of it. There is no evidence whatsoever that the £30 million could have been invested in the squad and made a difference to how we performed in the 10 years Diaby was on the books.

Diaby could have been one of the best midfielders but instead he's achieved absolutely nothing through no fault of his own, but the "let's get in their face" and "we got to let them know we're there" philosophy adopted by Neanderthal British managers, pundits and players. No one will remember him for what he did on the pitch. That must be incredibly frustrating for him, not to mention getting up every morning and knowing full well that he won't be able to do the thing that he's worked his entirely life for. I would like to see how you'd fare after a person shatters your hand. See how you would be able to sit at work in front of your pc with aching hand and creeping doubt in your mind! I somehow suspect you would take to your bed and never get back to work. Diaby wasn’t sitting around on his arse and not trying to make an effort to get back on the pitch. Make no mistake! He wasn’t kept by Wenger out of kindness or some sentimental shit. He was kept because if fit he simply is amazing. The guy has the lot; physical strength, vision, goals, control and bags of ability. Unfortunately, you are reminiscent of a modern football supporter living in a world flooded with greed, short-sightedness and cynical pragmatism.

On what basis ??? Because he got injured playing for the club ? Getting injured playing for the club does not entitle him to numerous contract extensions when he hasnt proved his fitness. I also love all this craic about being mean minded - arent we all told that football is a business nowadays and there is no room for sentiment in business How much loyalty/fairness/appreciation does the club show you (or any long standing Gooners for that matter) ? I will bet my life that it is the square root of fcuk all and I have certainly done more for the club than this perma crock Years attending games and all the associated costs that comes with that, doesnt even entitle any of us to a cup final ticket. Even when they show live away games on a big screen at the grove, they charge fans for the privilege instead of allowing them in free as a bit of positive pr. What about the hundreds of "regular people" that have jobs working for the club and who the club dont even pay the "london wage rate" to ? All this money grabbing shit is going on within our club but yet you feel sorry for some piece of lanky french shit ? I dont give a flying fcuk who gets offended by my stance cos I am sooo pissed off at the millions of pounds we have pissed down the drain waiting for this guy to get properly fit again, and it has been obvious for years that is not gonna happen

It's great that you believe that he could have been the greatest but for that injury ? Hasnt history taught you that hundreds of footballers look like the mutts nuts when they break into their respective teams first, but the majority of them will never fulfill those expectations. It is very unfortunate that diaby never got a chance to prove that he could be one of the few to do so, and it was indeed shocking that he was on the end of a diabolical challenge, but that doesnt entitle him to amass a fortune at our expense ever since

[officepest]

There is no evidence whatsoever that the £30 million could have been invested in the squad and made a difference to how we performed in the 10 years Diaby was on the books.

Diaby could have been one of the best midfielders but instead he's achieved absolutely nothing through no fault of his own

He was kept because if fit he simply is amazing. The guy has the lot; physical strength, vision, goals, control and bags of ability.

Horseshit.

[g60gooner]

There is no evidence whatsoever that the £30 million could have been invested in the squad and made a difference to how we performed in the 10 years Diaby was on the books.

Diaby could have been one of the best midfielders but instead he's achieved absolutely nothing through no fault of his own

He was kept because if fit he simply is amazing. The guy has the lot; physical strength, vision, goals, control and bags of ability.

Horseshit.

Post of the week right there.

[Zimgooner]

On what basis ??? Because he got injured playing for the club ? Getting injured playing for the club does not entitle him to numerous contract extensions when he hasnt proved his fitness. I also love all this craic about being mean minded - arent we all told that football is a business nowadays and there is no room for sentiment in business How much loyalty/fairness/appreciation does the club show you (or any long standing Gooners for that matter) ? I will bet my life that it is the square root of fcuk all and I have certainly done more for the club than this perma crock Years attending games and all the associated costs that comes with that, doesnt even entitle any of us to a cup final ticket. Even when they show live away games on a big screen at the grove, they charge fans for the privilege instead of allowing them in free as a bit of positive pr. What about the hundreds of "regular people" that have jobs working for the club and who the club dont even pay the "london wage rate" to ? All this money grabbing shit is going on within our club but yet you feel sorry for some piece of lanky french shit ? I dont give a flying fcuk who gets offended by my stance cos I am sooo pissed off at the millions of pounds we have pissed down the drain waiting for this guy to get properly fit again, and it has been obvious for years that is not gonna happen

It's great that you believe that he could have been the greatest but for that injury ? Hasnt history taught you that hundreds of footballers look like the mutts nuts when they break into their respective teams first, but the majority of them will never fulfill those expectations. It is very unfortunate that diaby never got a chance to prove that he could be one of the few to do so, and it was indeed shocking that he was on the end of a diabolical challenge, but that doesnt entitle him to amass a fortune at our expense ever since

Augie I totally agree with everything you say regarding Arsenal’s financial greed that’s why I have no qualms with Diaby getting some money off them. Unlike you, I think he deserved and was worth every penny he got, like all the other stakeholders you mention in your writing that deserve to be treated with fairness and compassion. Diaby didn’t put a gun on anyone’s head but was offered contract extensions based on his determination to get fit, footballing potential & I suppose some positive medical prognoses. Just because the promise now remains unfulfilled; is not reason for you to troll, slate and condemn the guy. He showed some dignity throughout the last nine years despite having his career stolen from him by a footballing pygmy whose actions are the type still lauded by British idiots in the mould of Allardyce, Shearer, Savage, Neville et al.

I agree that he shouldn’t get another contract but his departure is not a cause to celebrate as if he mugged us without trying. Can you tell me what you think could have been had Diaby gone earler? I am inclined to think that Wenger wouldn't have brought anyone regardless. In my opinion Diaby deserves full credit for his effoerts. He moved heaven and earth to regain his fitness, including some stellar performances in his last spell about two years ago, particularly at Anfield where we won 2-nil . When he is fit there is no doubting that he's an absolute beast of a player. Managers have to deal in the probabilities of how things might pan out, but you are focused on the certainty of how things have panned out. Given your cynicism, would you ditch the similarly injury prone Wilshere now? Or are you just going to wait until you see how his career goes and then 'get real' on it?

[officepest]

Managers have to deal in the probabilities of how things might pan out, but you are focused on the certainty of how things have panned out.

Of course he is; we have empirical evidence that Diaby wasn't worth persisting with for the odd "spell 2 years ago" as you state. In fact we have a decade of it.

Simply saying "when he's fit he's a great player" doesn't change the fact that, for whatever reason, he was very rarely fit and therefore did not justify a squad berth.

It is best for all concerned that he tries to find another club where he can try and resurrect his career.

[augie]

Absolutely wilshere is in last chance saloon regarding his fitness - rosicky (a player I have always rated highly) should also have been ditched by the club several years ago because we are tying up so much money in players that are contributing fcuk all on the pitch. Rosicky did well last season but the cynic in me does wonder if that was because his contract was expiring this summer and he knew that he needed to prove himself worthy of a new deal. Many Gooners will tell you they think the same about rvp before his one outstanding season for us. The wages we have wasted on continually injured players could and should have been used to pay wages of quality players that don't have issues with their fitness and that could improve our team and for me jack has to NOW start showing that he is capable of playing a full season for us, or else he should be sold to whoever pays the highest money

[SteveO 35]

My heart is torn in two

Please be gentle with me

[DB10GOONER]

No offence, but take a day off, mate. Nobody wished the chap ill. Nobody said they were happy he got injured. And yes every fucker and his cousin has had a pop at Wenger for the folly of extending Diaby's contracts etc etc etc. Being happy we have released a guy that delivered proper fuck all but was paid the guts of £30million over a ten year spell doesn't make anyone the Antichrist!

But tbh, my sympathy for Diaby is limited. He will never have to work another day in his life. He hasn't earned that. I will though. I will have to work fucking hard for the rest of my life to pay for my home, my kids education etc. So forgive me if I'm not too upset at the multi-millionaire Abou Diaby being released. M'kay?

I still maintain that Diaby deserved everything we offered him and you going-off about the wages he picked up while injured is muppetry at its finest. You keep saying that we shouldn't feel sorry for him because he still got £30 million out of it; that's incredibly mean-minded. You don’t even know what percentage of his wages was covered by insurance. Not everything is about the money. You are now parroting the money line peddled by the club, like all idiots that celebrate it as if they stand to gain from the riches made out of it. There is no evidence whatsoever that the £30 million could have been invested in the squad and made a difference to how we performed in the 10 years Diaby was on the books.

Diaby could have been one of the best midfielders but instead he's achieved absolutely nothing through no fault of his own, but the "let's get in their face" and "we got to let them know we're there" philosophy adopted by Neanderthal British managers, pundits and players. No one will remember him for what he did on the pitch. That must be incredibly frustrating for him, not to mention getting up every morning and knowing full well that he won't be able to do the thing that he's worked his entirely life for. I would like to see how you'd fare after a person shatters your hand. See how you would be able to sit at work in front of your pc with aching hand and creeping doubt in your mind! I somehow suspect you would take to your bed and never get back to work. Diaby wasn’t sitting around on his arse and not trying to make an effort to get back on the pitch. Make no mistake! He wasn’t kept by Wenger out of kindness or some sentimental shit. He was kept because if fit he simply is amazing. The guy has the lot; physical strength, vision, goals, control and bags of ability. Unfortunately, you are reminiscent of a modern football supporter living in a world flooded with greed, short-sightedness and cynical pragmatism.

Muppetry? And then you make a sweeping character judgement about me?

I'll tell you how I fare, you jumped up mong. I work on average 10 to 12 hours a day. That's just to keep up with the workload. I don't get paid overtime. I've played football for 40+ years now. I've broken both ankles (one a compound double fracture), my right arm, left wrist, damaged my ACL, dislocated my right shoulder, received about 50+ stitches, torn ankle ligaments in both ankles numerous times, have fluid on both knees, torn my hammies a couple times, fractured an eye socket, cracked ribs a couple times, had 3 teeth knocked out, broken my nose 5 times. Every single day I'm in pain in both ankles and knees and by the end of a work day I'm fit to drop. I then play football every Saturday and afterwards I can barely walk. And I pay for the privilege! I don't have expensive club physio's and doctors looking after me. But still I do it and will do until I physically can't. I don't want anyone's fucking sympathy either, I choose to do it.

So you might want to forgive me if I'm not too fucking bothered because a multi-millionaire has been released from the club I've spent thousands and thousands of Euros supporting.

As for your claim there is no proof the 30 odd million we paid him would have been used to pay better or more reliable players? That's hardly the point. The point is the club begged poverty for 10 years yet pissed away 30 million on this one player (and numerous others) that delivered nothing and should have been released long long ago. Not everything is about money? Who said it was? What is about money though, is paying a player 30 million over a 10 year period in the form of contract extensions and pay rises after that player has shown repeatedly to be unreliable, injury prone and of absolutely no use to the club. In the real world where us tax paying mortgage paying work for a living people live, that is disgusting waste.

As for your pathetic jibe about me being a modern football fan? Fuck off you idiot. If anyone is coming across as a modern football fan it's you and your apparent cult of personality obsession with Diaby, typical of the hero worshiping modern fan that supports the player or the manager before the club.

[DB10GOONER]

There is no evidence whatsoever that the £30 million could have been invested in the squad and made a difference to how we performed in the 10 years Diaby was on the books.

Diaby could have been one of the best midfielders but instead he's achieved absolutely nothing through no fault of his own

He was kept because if fit he simply is amazing. The guy has the lot; physical strength, vision, goals, control and bags of ability.

Horseshit.

Post of the decade.

[mcdowell42]

Not like you to post on here on a Saturday DB did you pick up another injury

[DB10GOONER]

Not like you to post on here on a Saturday DB did you pick up another injury

I am quite literally injured all the time, Mc!

Actually, touch wood (steady Rodders ), been going through a good run of not getting injured the last few months and nothing serious in over a year - last was torn ankle ligs again. Our veterans league (what they call us old bastards) season is over so will be playing indoor footy at 4 today wrapped up in so much deep heat and ankle tape that I weigh an extra stone!

[mcdowell42]

Not like you to post on here on a Saturday DB did you pick up another injury

I am quite literally injured all the time, Mc!

Actually, touch wood (steady Rodders ), been going through a good run of not getting injured the last few months and nothing serious in over a year - last was torn ankle ligs again. Our veterans league (what they call us old bastards) season is over so will be playing indoor footy at 4 today wrapped up in so much deep heat and ankle tape that I weigh an extra stone!

I suppose it can't be easy being an overweight midget.

[DB10GOONER]

Not like you to post on here on a Saturday DB did you pick up another injury

I am quite literally injured all the time, Mc!

Actually, touch wood (steady Rodders ), been going through a good run of not getting injured the last few months and nothing serious in over a year - last was torn ankle ligs again. Our veterans league (what they call us old bastards) season is over so will be playing indoor footy at 4 today wrapped up in so much deep heat and ankle tape that I weigh an extra stone!

I suppose it can't be easy being an overweight midget.

I'll take the midget jibe, (although I've heard from a mutual acquaintance that my 5'8" towers over your own 5'2" ) but not the overweight one, motherfucker. I work so had not to turn into the fat middle aged bastard most of my mates have turned into (and augie ) that I quite take offense, you culchie goat molesting sister marrying uncle fucker!

[mcdowell42]

I suppose if our mutual acquaintance is the same size as you well then anyone would seem smaller ,I'm actually 6ft3 .We will have to meet up sometime ,and don't forget to bring snow white with you


PS I've never molested my sister (those rumours were never proved )