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Mahrez signs for citeeh on massive wages but is grumbling about a lack of game time and wants out

Elninny, mustafi, mikki and no doubt ozil (and bendtner, gibbs and a few others in the past) signs for AFC on over the top wages, and don't care if they never play a match and will be happy to sit back coining it in anyway :roll:

Sums up why top players become top players as they have that drive and ambition, whilst the rest could not give a flying fcuk :censored:

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The Ghost of Wengercuntslop will continue to haunt us till all the dross is gone and that I fear may take 2 - 3 seasons yet. :cry:

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the mail read here sometimes i think :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... earout.htm

pretty much the OG wishlist - Ramsay, Ozil, Mkitaryian, Cech, Welbeck, Mustafi, Jenko, Elninny all going.

900k a week off our wage bill.

Ospina and Chambers to stay.

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The rumour mill is starting up and its interesting that we are being linked with genuine quality players for a change, Leroy Sane, Andre Gomes and Eric Bailly. All three would do well under Emery. With the return of Reiss Nelson that is some pace up front. With Holding, Bellerin and Chambers back in the reckoning we will see defensive improvements as there was a visible improvement with Bellerin and Holding under Emery's coaching. We have a title winning front two, with a relegation defence. I'd still look for a better keeper, Pope at Burnley last season kept more clean sheets than Leno has in his first season, yet he's not even on the bench, or even Etheridge from Cardiff (should they get relegated) would be an improvement. Celtic's left back Tierney would be a great addition to the squad.
However, I just have this nagging feeling that Sanchez is going to return after his United nightmare.

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Does anyone think chambers has anything to offer ?

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shu wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:26 pm
Does anyone think chambers has anything to offer ?





Ahead of elninny ? Absofuckinglutely

Ahead of xhaka ? Probably

Ahead of mustafi ? Absofuckinglutely

So far I haven't seen much to encourage me about mavropanus (sp :oops: ) either, so I would have chambers ahead of him.

Dont want to see chambers play right full again even if jenks isnt good enough.

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Chambers is shit and just another piece of dead wood. We need to get rid of about 10 players, I reckon Dick may sell 2 along with the ones leaving after their contracts ran out. Don’t expect big changes, you’ll be disappointed!! :roll:

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shu wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:26 pm
Does anyone think chambers has anything to offer ?
I had high hopes for him initially but nothing in the last 2 years has made me think he will make it with us ( haven’t seen him at Fulham to be fair ) to think we reportedly turned down about £20m for him ?!

Have seen some reports that Welbeck may be offered a new deal (he is out of contract in the summer )
I think we have badly missed him as our 3rd striker, being able to bring him on instead of Iwobi or Mick O’Taryian, could have made a difference to our attacking options - he works hard for the team, will fight to win the ball back gets a few goals ( far more than Iwobi) and is okay in the air.

No transfer fee involved, could see this happening as none of the youngsters appear ready yet to step up into first team, leaving our limited budget to concentrate on defensive issues.

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TeeCee wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:23 am
Chambers is shit and just another piece of dead wood. We need to get rid of about 10 players, I reckon Dick may sell 2 along with the ones leaving after their contracts ran out. Don’t expect big changes, you’ll be disappointed!! :roll:
Agreed. He is just not good enough for us and that is that. Christ knows what will happen in the summer but we need to bite the bullet and get rid of the likes of Chambers, Jenks and Elniny. Welbs has to go as well as he is a crock and we clearly can't afford any sentimentality these days. I would also sell Kolasinac in a heartbeat as he is a shit defender. We will lose helmet head and Lichsteiner from the wage bill which is good as they offer nothing. I have a nasty feeling that Mustafi, Xhaka, Mhiki and Ozil will all be here at the start of next year. Nobody will buy the first two and nobody will pay the wages of the second two.

I would still like to see more of the kids get a chance. On the couple of occasions when AMN got a chance in midfield he looked really decent for those 10 mins before another RB died and he had to go back to cover there again. We are in danger of a potential midfield talent being lost to RB because we have no decent cover there. The problem with bringing a kid in is that you need to make sure that the rest of the defence is at full strength :lol: :lol: otherwise they will likely get fucked over if they have calamity mustafi as support.

But then if we do not have any kids who are ready to progress - ESR, Nelson and Eddie N are at that stage, then what is the point of running reserves, 23s or academy or whatever the fuck it is these days. How difficult is it to find a couple of British fullbacks who can actually defend. Take the requirement for them to be foreign, exotic, have a single word name (Fred, Malcolm, Bob etc) and to be able to play pretty patterns out of the wish list and get a couple of guys who can defend and deal with wide players. How about we get players who can do the basics well first and we worry about the rest later. I bet there are a few guys in the Championship who could do a much better job of defending than our current set up and who would cost peanuts which is handy as that is our current currency of choice.

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:16 am

But then if we do not have any kids who are ready to progress - ESR, Nelson and Eddie N are at that stage, then what is the point of running reserves, 23s or academy or whatever the fuck it is these days. How difficult is it to find a couple of British fullbacks who can actually defend. Take the requirement for them to be foreign, exotic, have a single word name (Fred, Malcolm, Bob etc) and to be able to play pretty patterns out of the wish list and get a couple of guys who can defend and deal with wide players. How about we get players who can do the basics well first and we worry about the rest later. I bet there are a few guys in the Championship who could do a much better job of defending than our current set up and who would cost peanuts which is handy as that is our current currency of choice.
It comes to something when you look at the mid table teams like Wolves, Leicester, Everton, Palace and could make a case for their defence over ours, or certainly pick 1 or 2 from each instead of our humble offerings.

Dixon & Winterburn were not flash but would defend 100% and occasionally pop up further forward but then they had their schooling in the lower leagues and were grateful & honoured to be at The Arsenal. :barscarf:

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StuartL wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:33 am
Jock Gooner wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:16 am

But then if we do not have any kids who are ready to progress - ESR, Nelson and Eddie N are at that stage, then what is the point of running reserves, 23s or academy or whatever the fuck it is these days. How difficult is it to find a couple of British fullbacks who can actually defend. Take the requirement for them to be foreign, exotic, have a single word name (Fred, Malcolm, Bob etc) and to be able to play pretty patterns out of the wish list and get a couple of guys who can defend and deal with wide players. How about we get players who can do the basics well first and we worry about the rest later. I bet there are a few guys in the Championship who could do a much better job of defending than our current set up and who would cost peanuts which is handy as that is our current currency of choice.
It comes to something when you look at the mid table teams like Wolves, Leicester, Everton, Palace and could make a case for their defence over ours, or certainly pick 1 or 2 from each instead of our humble offerings.

Dixon & Winterburn were not flash but would defend 100% and occasionally pop up further forward but then they had their schooling in the lower leagues and were grateful & honoured to be at The Arsenal. :barscarf:

Absolutely spot on mate, Dicko and Nutty are proof that it can be done and you make an important point that they were grateful for their chance at a big club. That all comes down to having the right attitude which GG and TA demanded from everybody and is so so missing from the current set up. It's the same thing that bugs the fuck out of Gary Neville about manure and they were quite successful once upon a time. I quite agree with you about the defences of the teams you name but I'm not sure if we could afford any of them with our budget this summer :shock: so why not go down a league and grab a couple of guys who will run and defend for the cause. Let's go buy some commitment. Is that really such a British attitude that our foreign managers can't see it.

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clockender1 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:22 pm
the mail read here sometimes i think :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... earout.htm

pretty much the OG wishlist - Ramsay, Ozil, Mkitaryian, Cech, Welbeck, Mustafi, Jenko, Elninny all going.

900k a week off our wage bill.

Ospina and Chambers to stay.

Unai Emery will sanction an Arsenal clearout this summer — with defender Shkodran Mustafi among the players for sale.


He may well 'sanction' it but who the fuck-in-their-right-noodle is going to buy any of these Clowns. :?


Emery will head into the transfer window with a budget of as little as £45million.
But the manager, who has impressed the Gunners hierarchy during his first season, has been told he can reinvest a significant amount of any money raised from player sales.

Emery is therefore ready to offload a number of his players so he can bolster his kitty. Despite the progress made in his first campaign — Arsenal already have three more points than last season’s final tally under Arsene Wenger — Emery still believes his squad need major improvements.
Among those whose futures are in doubt is Mustafi, whose latest horror show in Sunday’s 3-2 loss to Crystal Palace reinforced the belief at the club that they should listen to offers for the German.

Arsenal have been open to selling Mustafi, who joined from Valencia in 2016 for £35m, for the last two summers but have struggled to find a buyer. And given his poor season, that is unlikely to change.

Mesut Ozil and Henrikh Mkhitaryan will also be in the shop window. The Gunners are under pressure to reduce their wage bill, especially if they fail to qualify for the Champions League.

Selling Ozil, despite his recent renaissance, remains a key objective because of his mammoth £350,000-a-week wages. Mkhitaryan earns £180,000 :shock: :shock: :shock:


a week and the Armenian is another one Arsenal hope to sell.

The club will also listen to offers for Carl Jenkinson and Mohamed Elneny, while Calum Chambers and David Ospina are likely to be sold once they return from their loan spells at Fulham and Napoli respectively.

The departures of Petr Cech and Aaron Ramsey will slash close to £200,000 from the weekly wage bill. Danny Welbeck, who earns around £80,000 a week, is also expected to leave when his contract expires this summer.

After today's no-show against steptoe & co I would recommend we sell the fucking lot and start from scratch. :( :banghead:

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Seriously if we are pinning our hopes on raising transfer funds through player sales then we are finished for the next few years.

The only way we could even remotely think of getting rid of most of our squad is standing them outside my drive with cardboard signs tied around their necks "free to a good home"

We are surely not going to resign welbeck, I like his attitude and he's an honest pro but not good enough for us (actually he probably is good enough for us :lol: ) if we aim to improve.

I would go for that lad at West ham, Antonio as a third choice, he has genuine pace and is a strong unit, the sort of player you need away from home when it gets niggly.

As for defence, I'd have any CUNNT from any league above our lot .

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:16 am
TeeCee wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:23 am
Chambers is shit and just another piece of dead wood. We need to get rid of about 10 players, I reckon Dick may sell 2 along with the ones leaving after their contracts ran out. Don’t expect big changes, you’ll be disappointed!! :roll:
Agreed. He is just not good enough for us and that is that. Christ knows what will happen in the summer but we need to bite the bullet and get rid of the likes of Chambers, Jenks and Elniny. Welbs has to go as well as he is a crock and we clearly can't afford any sentimentality these days. I would also sell Kolasinac in a heartbeat as he is a shit defender. We will lose helmet head and Lichsteiner from the wage bill which is good as they offer nothing. I have a nasty feeling that Mustafi, Xhaka, Mhiki and Ozil will all be here at the start of next year. Nobody will buy the first two and nobody will pay the wages of the second two.

I would still like to see more of the kids get a chance. On the couple of occasions when AMN got a chance in midfield he looked really decent for those 10 mins before another RB died and he had to go back to cover there again. We are in danger of a potential midfield talent being lost to RB because we have no decent cover there. The problem with bringing a kid in is that you need to make sure that the rest of the defence is at full strength :lol: :lol: otherwise they will likely get fucked over if they have calamity mustafi as support.

But then if we do not have any kids who are ready to progress - ESR, Nelson and Eddie N are at that stage, then what is the point of running reserves, 23s or academy or whatever the fuck it is these days. How difficult is it to find a couple of British fullbacks who can actually defend. Take the requirement for them to be foreign, exotic, have a single word name (Fred, Malcolm, Bob etc) and to be able to play pretty patterns out of the wish list and get a couple of guys who can defend and deal with wide players. How about we get players who can do the basics well first and we worry about the rest later. I bet there are a few guys in the Championship who could do a much better job of defending than our current set up and who would cost peanuts which is handy as that is our current currency of choice.
:lol: :lol:
Cracking post.

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Just remember what St$n Kranky said a year or two ago.......'You don't buy a sports team to win titles'.

That's all you ever need to remember about our lovely owner. Emery and Sanllehi will have the same brief as Wenger had - qualify for the CL on a very strict budget and if you can win a cup here or there to keep the fans quiet, great. No more is required. Being close to the top 4 this season is all Kranky will want to see and he'll be thinking we can do the same next season, no need for big changes.

For anyone thinking Dick will chuck out the dead wood and bring in 4 or 5 replacements this summer, I think you are going to be SO disappointed! :roll:

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