WALCOTT - which position is best etc?

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If Squillachi leaves it (supposedly) frees up 50k per week.

25k of that to Walcott's pay rise, and 25k to a Coquelin pay rise?

I would be happy with that.

It is just business. Until the club find a better player than Walcott and actually bid for him, have the bid accepted, and see that the player can perform consistently, we have to stick with our second highest scorer this season.

It may be that this time next season The Ox and Miyaichi are our regular wide players...let's see what works best. But those too are unlikely to be used every week because of their age.

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QuartzGooner wrote:If Squillachi leaves it (supposedly) frees up 50k per week.

25k of that to Walcott's pay rise, and 25k to a Coquelin pay rise?

I would be happy with that.


It is just business. Until the club find a better player than Walcott and actually bid for him, have the bid accepted, and see that the player can perform consistently, we have to stick with our second highest scorer this season.

It may be that this time next season The Ox and Miyaichi are our regular wide players...let's see what works best. But those too are unlikely to be used every week because of their age.

Quartz I dont want to sound disrespectful here but I wouldnt give a flying fcuk if we saved an extra £1 million a week on getting rid of players cos there is no way in gods green earth that braindead walnut is worth anything close to 100k a week. Fact is that he, along with many of the current players, is being paid an excessive wage and it is high time the club changed this policy that rewards average players a disproportinate wage - tell these players that from this day forth if players want to be paid handsomely then they are going to have to go out and earn it every single fcuking week and if that isnt acceptable to feo or anyone else then they can pish off. If wenger doesnt support this and doesnt want to break it to the players then go over his head and inform the players directly and while you are at tell wenger that he has to earn his dough from now on too :evil:

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It is just business Augie.

Are any of the players worth even £25,000 a week when a junior doctor or nurse gets that in a year?

Walcott at least tries every week, I will get criticised for this but I believe his lack of tracking back at times is the result of the team not being "Switched On" or coached regularly enough into working as a team.

I recommend today's arsenalnewsreview.co.uk.

Interesting nugget of information on there about Guardiola's coaching and how he keeps players fresh and switched on to positioning and team work ethic.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
Interesting nugget of information on there about Guardiola's coaching and how he keeps players fresh and switched on to positioning and team work ethic.
is it pumping them full of performance enhancing drugs?


Ooh, controversial 8)

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QuartzGooner wrote:If Squillachi leaves it (supposedly) frees up 50k per week.

25k of that to Walcott's pay rise, and 25k to a Coquelin pay rise?

I would be happy with that.

It is just business. Until the club find a better player than Walcott and actually bid for him, have the bid accepted, and see that the player can perform consistently, we have to stick with our second highest scorer this season.

It may be that this time next season The Ox and Miyaichi are our regular wide players...let's see what works best. But those too are unlikely to be used every week because of their age.
What the fuck has Walcott done to desrve a £25k a week rise.Play 4 good games this season.He is lucky to be even on £25k to start with.hes had 6 years to learn to cross a ball and still cant.We have a better player than Walcott and his name is the Ox.And you want to give Coquelin who isnt even a first team regular a £25k rise.Madness fucking madness

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QuartzGooner wrote:It is just business Augie.

Are any of the players worth even £25,000 a week when a junior doctor or nurse gets that in a year?

Walcott at least tries every week, I will get criticised for this but I believe his lack of tracking back at times is the result of the team not being "Switched On" or coached regularly enough into working as a team.

I recommend today's arsenalnewsreview.co.uk.

Interesting nugget of information on there about Guardiola's coaching and how he keeps players fresh and switched on to positioning and team work ethic.


But quartz if it is just business then wouldnt it make far more sense to sell the gormless fool in the summer if the chavs or "king kenny" ( :roll: ) comes in with a 20m+ bid ? Lets be honest here, the ox has far more in his locker than feo is ever likely to have so the only thing he lacks is experience which will increase with the departure of walnut. Also by doing that we would have sold a player on 60-70k per week wages and replaced him with a player on a third of that - doesnt that make good business sense too ?
Tbh quartz I dont see any good reason, business or otherwise, to justify keeping walnut if a 20m+ offer came in

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Well Augie I do not regard him as gormless or a fool, and for all the runs into blind alleys and misplaced passes, I also see what he does achieve and that is setting up RvP on a regular basis, plus so far scoring 10 goals this season.
Plus him and The Ox on either wing gives the team impetus and threat.

But £20M would be a fair price IF we had a replacement.
That would probably be Podolski with The Ox switching to the right wing.

Because otherwise it means The Ox on one side of midfield which is good, but he will not be able play every game on account of his age.

Then our options are Gervinho, who I am not convinced by yet.
Miyaichi/Campbell - look good prospects but untested with us in the Premiership.
Rosicky - much prefer behind RvP than out wide.

But I would actually like to keep Walcott and buy Podolski too, and raise money by selling:

Almunia
Fabianski
Eastmond
Diaby
Denilson
Arshavin
Watt
Bentnder
Vela
Chamakh
Park

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Quartz there isnt one name on that departure list I can disagree with but we all know wenger wouldnt dream of having a cull like that :roll:
See this is exactly the right time for a change of manager imo - it is clear that 98% of Gooners support the idea of a major clearout right now so really and truly it would make it a lot easier for a new manager to impliment that overhaul and start rebuilding a squad capable of challenging for honours again. Wenger's loyalty shows no sign of diminishing so as long as he remains that most of the deadwood will remain with us and all the time our wage bill will continue to be astronomical :evil:

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Can we not just pay up the contracts of some of these players just to get them off the books,i know short term this would be expensive but they would be gone ,or am i being naive

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Augie I agree this entire list is sellable, and makes football and business sense. 12 players.

Almunia
Fabianski
Squillachi
Eastmond
Diaby
Denilson
Arshavin
Watt
Bentnder
Vela
Chamakh
Park

Perhaps a case can be made for Fabianski as a reserve keeper but then only just.
Bendtner is better than Chamakh and Park but I cannot see his ego coping with being on the bench for any length of time, a move makes sense.

Diaby has until the end of this season to prove his fitness. Even then I am not keen on him, but I admit he has been severly hampered by a hideous series of injuries.

Failure to sell those players and bring in four quality signings instead is a management failure.

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QuartzGooner wrote:It is just business Augie.

Are any of the players worth even £25,000 a week when a junior doctor or nurse gets that in a year?....
To be fair, some of the nurses I've seen supposedly 'working' make Song's effort and Theo's end product seem almost prolific and thus in my opinion are similarly over-paid!!! :oops: :oops: Controversial? Yes. But true nonetheless. :cry: :cry:

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QuartzGooner wrote:Augie I agree this entire list is sellable, and makes football and business sense. 12 players.

Almunia
Fabianski
Squillachi
Eastmond
Diaby
Denilson
Arshavin
Watt
Bentnder
Vela
Chamakh
Park

Perhaps a case can be made for Fabianski as a reserve keeper but then only just.
Bendtner is better than Chamakh and Park but I cannot see his ego coping with being on the bench for any length of time, a move makes sense.

Diaby has until the end of this season to prove his fitness. Even then I am not keen on him, but I admit he has been severly hampered by a hideous series of injuries.
Failure to sell those players and bring in four quality signings instead is a management failure.
A little bit of love developing for the great man I suspect and rightly so.....how on earth anyone can even dare to scribe his name in a list containing the likes of fucking Chamakh, Eastmond (???!!!!) and Park is beyond me. Quartz you are comparing the most naturally gifted player at the club with the lumbering camel, a man now farmed off to Wycombe Wanderers and a guy who made Shrewsbury look effective. Honestly

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mcdowell42 wrote:Can we not just pay up the contracts of some of these players just to get them off the books,i know short term this would be expensive but they would be gone ,or am i being naive
Good point... :rubchin:
Wenger as a good gesture cut his wages by a fifth to release some funds too ??

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Macca wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Can we not just pay up the contracts of some of these players just to get them off the books,i know short term this would be expensive but they would be gone ,or am i being naive
Good point... :rubchin:
Wenger as a good gesture cut his wages by a fifth to release some funds too ??


So i am being naive :lol:

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Macca wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:Can we not just pay up the contracts of some of these players just to get them off the books,i know short term this would be expensive but they would be gone ,or am i being naive
Good point... :rubchin:
Wenger as a good gesture cut his wages by a fifth to release some funds too ??


So i am being naive :lol:


we paid over the odds for average players, becausse wenger thinks it will do that togetherness will come strong....strange....

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