As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
MK Gould wrote:The only entertaining thing last night was the chat I had with Sami for the duration....! Thanks mate. Made the game go so much quicker!
As for the match itself though, I did comment at one stage that I was disappointed with Schalke..... I kind of expected to lose last night - didn't we all - but the game itself had 0-0 written all over it until late on. Both teams were extremely poor..
Schalke were extremely 'poor'? If controlling most of a match away from home, creating numerous chances and missing some very good ones, while restricting your opponents to just one shot which doesn't come until the 94th minute is poor, then I fecking wish we'd be that 'poor' a lot more often!!
I think the point made is that they weren't great last night rather we plumbed the depths to make them look good and allowed them to dominate.
Or maybe the real truth is that we ain't that great ourselves so the depths we had to plummet wasn't actually that far in the first place?
Schalke are one of the fittest teams I've ever seen, thought they were immense
they won at Dortmund this weekend (who beat RealMadrid last night)
Schalke are an excellent team working hard for each other
v Norwich we were just shite
v Schalke we were made to look shite by a good team
reality is we cry about Chelski and ManShitty's dosh - but we can buy any Norwich or Schalke player we want
but have stuck with what we have, which is nowhere near good enough...
highburyJD wrote:Schalke are one of the fittest teams I've ever seen, thought they were immense
they won at Dortmund this weekend (who beat RealMadrid last night)
Schalke are an excellent team working hard for each other
v Norwich we were just shite
v Schalke we were made to look shite by a good team
reality is we cry about Chelski and ManShitty's dosh - but we can buy any Norwich or Schalke player we want
but have stuck with what we have, which is nowhere near good enough...
highburyJD wrote:Schalke are one of the fittest teams I've ever seen, thought they were immense
they won at Dortmund this weekend (who beat RealMadrid last night)
Schalke are an excellent team working hard for each other
v Schalke we were made to look shite by a good team
I think the points you make appear to be slightly contradictory.... I actually agree with the latter one i.e. we were beaten by a good team last night. No more than that. I don't think they were immense or excellent, but then they didn't have to be to beat us!
their fitness and running was immense, that boy Holtby never stopped
the level of work they put in for each other was excellent
I think they're better than just 'a good team'
but what took them up to the next level was fitness and application
highburyJD wrote:
reality is we cry about Chelski and ManShitty's dosh - but we can buy any Norwich or Schalke player we want
but have stuck with what we have, which is nowhere near good enough...
Ain't that the truth.This is a team with a patchy record of qualifying for the CL and behind Bayern and Dortmund in terms of attractive teams to join even on their domestic scene.
Ironic that the two players who put us to the sword, Huntelaar and Affelay, were players well within our reach and only recently transferred. If anyone is going to tell me that they prefer Gervinho and Giroud to those two then they need their heads tested
How can that not be Wenger's fault? The board have sanctioned the transfers of those two who both cost us in excess of €10m a piece, no real difference to what Huntelaar and Affelay would have cost us. So it is not down to the board not releasing the money in that instance. It is down to Wenger and our scouting network that they have chosen the wrong players
The board have multiple faults - we all know that. By one of them is NOT the selection of individual players. Wenger is guilty big time of having chosen individual, substandard players
highburyJD wrote:Schalke are one of the fittest teams I've ever seen, thought they were immense
they won at Dortmund this weekend (who beat RealMadrid last night)
Schalke are an excellent team working hard for each other
v Schalke we were made to look shite by a good team
I think the points you make appear to be slightly contradictory.... I actually agree with the latter one i.e. we were beaten by a good team last night. No more than that. I don't think they were immense or excellent, but then they didn't have to be to beat us!
Agree, they were nothing better than good. Not tested whatsoever at the back and frankly an excellent team would have put us to the sword far earlier, they created relatively little considering how much ball we were willing to give them in dangerous positions.
If you want to see what a really good team looks like we'll see what happens (if and when) we put in the same sort of performance at Old Trafford. I'm hoping for 6 in the sweepstake.
highburyJD wrote:their fitness and running was immense, that boy Holtby never stopped
the level of work they put in for each other was excellent
I think they're better than just 'a good team'
but what took them up to the next level was fitness and application
Thanks!
Sounds like you need to fresh up your squad during winter transfer market.
Position nine in the PL table does not look good and your CL campaign will not be easier with the first home loss since 2003?
Tomáš wrote:Thanks!
Sounds like you need to fresh up your squad during winter transfer market.
Position nine in the PL table does not look good and your CL campaign will not be easier with the first home loss since 2003?
Cheers,
Thomas
This whole "43 game unbeaten at home in Europe" thing makes me laugh. Are they forgetting the game in 2009 when Utd ran rings round us & Ronaldo scored a free kick from on the Holloway Road? Or are they simply manipulating the facts again to make it sound more impressive by only counting Group Stage games?
Dan_85 wrote:This whole "43 game unbeaten at home in Europe" thing makes me laugh. Are they forgetting the game in 2009 when Utd ran rings round us & Ronaldo scored a free kick from on the Holloway Road? Or are they simply manipulating the facts again to make it sound more impressive by only counting Group Stage games?
Think it was unbeaten at home in Europe....against European opposition !
Tomáš wrote:Thanks!
Sounds like you need to fresh up your squad during winter transfer market.
Position nine in the PL table does not look good and your CL campaign will not be easier with the first home loss since 2003?
Cheers,
Thomas
Thomas - forgive me mate. But whereas I am always happy to hear other Gooners discuss the ups and downs of Arsenal, I always get a little defensive when a rival does the same. Makes no odds whether they support Spurs, Chelsea, United or.....Dortmund.
So, while congratulating you on beating Real Madrid last night, I would just point out that you also lost at home to Schalke as recently as the weekend..... And although you are a creditable 4th in the Bundesliga you are 12 points behind Bayern Munich, whereas we are "only" 10 behind Chelsea. Arsenal & Dortmund have identical, played 8, won 3, drawn 3 and lost 2 records this season. And you have just one more point than us after three games in the CL..... So maybe we both need to take a look at our squads !
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Tomáš wrote:Thanks!
Sounds like you need to fresh up your squad during winter transfer market.
Position nine in the PL table does not look good and your CL campaign will not be easier with the first home loss since 2003?
Cheers,
Thomas
This whole "43 game unbeaten at home in Europe" thing makes me laugh. Are they forgetting the game in 2009 when Utd ran rings round us & Ronaldo scored a free kick from on the Holloway Road? Or are they simply manipulating the facts again to make it sound more impressive by only counting Group Stage games?
Do you mean the second leg 'magnificent performance' we were promised by the Self Harmer following the biggest 1-0 thrashing you've ever witnessed in the first leg. I'm still waiting for that 'magnificent performance'
Tomáš wrote:Thanks!
Sounds like you need to fresh up your squad during winter transfer market.
Position nine in the PL table does not look good and your CL campaign will not be easier with the first home loss since 2003?
Cheers,
Thomas
This whole "43 game unbeaten at home in Europe" thing makes me laugh. Are they forgetting the game in 2009 when Utd ran rings round us & Ronaldo scored a free kick from on the Holloway Road? Or are they simply manipulating the facts again to make it sound more impressive by only counting Group Stage games?
Do you mean the second leg 'magnificent performance' we were promised by the Self Harmer following the biggest 1-0 thrashing you've ever witnessed in the first leg. I'm still waiting for that 'magnificent performance'
Hmmm, well I believe in the league game 6 months later, when referring back to that CL debacle, he did promise us that we were now "a different animal". The performance and scoreline turned out to be absolutely identical.
Sometimes at the Grove both players and fans are flat,
Atmosphere that day was something else, the place was rocking
Gibbs is a bit unlucky, you can't legislate for that
the Ronaldo FK was just another on a long list of goals Manuel threw in v ManUre.
Predictable.
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