Oxlade-Chamberlain

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youngw wrote:
casgooner wrote:
northbank123 wrote:I would loan him out. Young footballers these days are perceived as having 'made it' once they have played some PL football and a few token England caps.

He is far from too good or too experienced to go on loan. Send him out for a season to another PL club where he will have to fight for his place, will get bollocked for mindless football and will be cut adrift from this grinning idiot social media hero persona he is trying to cultivate.

He is stagnating badly and chucking him out of his comfort zone and into regular football is the only thing that might salvage him.
I totally agree, send Chambers and Gibbs with him. Anyone else?
Want to get rid of any more solid squad players? Lets have the under 16s on the bench and get rid of Iwobi, Walcott and Welbeck too
Chambers is not a solid squad player. He is a kid who has next to no professional experience and 98% of that in positions which he didn't play in throughout his youth career. We can't decide on his best position and he is brought on late on in games in whatever nominal position takes Wenger's fancy, or he is chucked in due to injuries and left to flounder. The guy needs to go on loan because he doesn't have the experience in senior football (never mind at CL level) and to be honest isn't a reliable back-up option. If we keep him as a back up at RB/CB/DM he will continue to go backwards and will never make it here. He needs to find his position and he needs games.

No point in loaning Gibbs out - he isn't going to get any better now and whilst I don't rate him (and cringe whenever he is brought on at left wing to 'shore things up') worse back-up full-backs have won the league.

Iwobi is lively but not exactly a solid squad player is he? And I think you'd find 90% of people on this forum would jump at the chance to shed the shyster Walcott and his huge wage with him.

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he is brought on late on in games in whatever nominal position takes Wenger's fancy, or he is chucked in due to injuries and left to flounder
Agreed.

If he is to be a proficient back-up he needs to build game time to learn the trade.

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He should have scored. Barca's keeper on the ground, and all Chamberlain needs to do is get elevation on his shot, but instead he hits it along the ground - when the Barcelona keeper was on the ground.

His injury may do him good, because he needs to seriously think about his career. I feel he thinks of himself still as a kid, however he is in danger of the years passing away and him not growing as a footballer. Adam Johnson, Aaron Lennon, and to a lesser extent Theo - all top young players who never really made the step up to become great players.

As for his injury, well I wouldnt play him ahead of Campbell, Walcott, Iwobi or Welbeck, so its not a major set back at all.

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If the rumor's are correct that he has suffered both knee and ligament damage, then whoever made the call to allow him to play on in the second half should be sacked. Regardless of anyone's views of him here this is a mans lively hood we are talking about, and it is extremely unprofessional from a club of our nature (and not the first time this season) to allow this to happen (carzola).

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This is the same gang that sent RVP for Gypsy placenta treatment in Albania and let Cesc play a ECL game v Barca with a broken leg.

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enjibenji wrote:If the rumor's are correct that he has suffered both knee and ligament damage, then whoever made the call to allow him to play on in the second half should be sacked. Regardless of anyone's views of him here this is a mans lively hood we are talking about, and it is extremely unprofessional from a club of our nature (and not the first time this season) to allow this to happen (carzola).
He's stealing a living, mate. :D :wink:

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I don't think it showed up as "gypsy placenta treatment" on rvps medical bill

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DB10GOONER wrote:
enjibenji wrote:If the rumor's are correct that he has suffered both knee and ligament damage, then whoever made the call to allow him to play on in the second half should be sacked. Regardless of anyone's views of him here this is a mans lively hood we are talking about, and it is extremely unprofessional from a club of our nature (and not the first time this season) to allow this to happen (carzola).
He's stealing a living, mate. :D :wink:
Ill not get in to that argument :lol: :lol: :lol:

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enjibenji wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
enjibenji wrote:If the rumor's are correct that he has suffered both knee and ligament damage, then whoever made the call to allow him to play on in the second half should be sacked. Regardless of anyone's views of him here this is a mans lively hood we are talking about, and it is extremely unprofessional from a club of our nature (and not the first time this season) to allow this to happen (carzola).
He's stealing a living, mate. :D :wink:
Ill not get in to that argument :lol: :lol: :lol:
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If it's a serious injury, then I'm sorry for the guy. I genuinely believe that he does his best. But therein lies the problem.

He was woefully out of form and while not the only one, I hope that his absence will be a blessing. On the flip side, having so many mid to long term injuries every year holds us back and provides the good Lord Wenger to recycle some of his very best lines.

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I hate diving. Theres no such thing as "buying a foul" fs. Its a dive.
I also keep hearing ......"look, just there, there was contact!" So what? Just because there was contact does not mean it was a foul, does not mean a player has to go down. In the spirit of the game a player should be trying to stay up, only going down if he has to. Anything else is a dive. Thats the way I see it.

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According to the BBC football gossip ,west Ham are willing to pay 15m for him.

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mcdowell42 wrote:According to the BBC football gossip ,west Ham are willing to pay 15m for him.
Was just going to quote that, personally i'd snap their arms off for the money, but horrible :censored: they may be i'm not sure i'd wish him on them :)

The irony is that Bilic would probably make a decent player of Ox :banghead:

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I wouldn't sell him for another season. I'd make him watch his own performance, highlight his decision making and his constant loss of possession. Show him what he is doing wrong and get him to think about how he's gonna improve on his return. He's gonna be a good attacking midfielder but he needs to be shown exactly where he is going wrong.

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Nos89 wrote:I wouldn't sell him for another season. I'd make him watch his own performance, highlight his decision making and his constant loss of possession. Show him what he is doing wrong and get him to think about how he's gonna improve on his return. He's gonna be a good attacking midfielder but he needs to be shown exactly where he is going wrong.
Waste of time. If those things haven't already been done, and he hasn't yet learned, then what difference another year?

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