The 2015 Transfer Rumours Thread

[Leyton Gooner]

The Wenger one was so last month

[Ikechukwu1]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

Everton a "big game"? Ok then. Let's leave it there then...
We've not come close to a title since Ozil has been there, so it's a stretch to call him a success imo

[donaldo71]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

The best win of last season Man City away.Ozil didnt start.

[I Hate Hleb]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

Yeah but you would be struggling to add to that list even if given another 10 months gp543!!

Ikechukwa is right on this. Ozil HAS failed to turn up for the really big matches - FA Cup Final apart - and even some smaller ones. Regardless of what anyone thinks of his ability, the truth is he has produced too little compared to what was expected considering his reputation and price tag.

[IW8Goalmachine]

Wait a minute lads, you give out about özil but if he was sold tomorrow you'd be on this forum calling for wengers head and claiming we're a backwards club!

Make your mind up

[gp543]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

Everton a "big game"? Ok then. Let's leave it there then...
We've not come close to a title since Ozil has been there, so it's a stretch to call him a success imo

It was a cup quarterfinal you stupid fuck

[gp543]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

Yeah but you would be struggling to add to that list even if given another 10 months gp543!!

Ikechukwa is right on this. Ozil HAS failed to turn up for the really big matches - FA Cup Final apart - and even some smaller ones. Regardless of what anyone thinks of his ability, the truth is he has produced too little compared to what was expected considering his reputation and price tag.

United in the Cup and Liverpool at home were both in the past 4 months...

[nut flush gooner]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

Yeah but you would be struggling to add to that list even if given another 10 months gp543!!

Ikechukwa is right on this. Ozil HAS failed to turn up for the really big matches - FA Cup Final apart - and even some smaller ones. Regardless of what anyone thinks of his ability, the truth is he has produced too little compared to what was expected considering his reputation and price tag.

United in the Cup and Liverpool at home were both in the past 4 months...

This is my take on Ozil, he was at a bigger club but knew he had no future there. So in his mind whilst coming to Arsenal wasn't a bad move it was a step down in expectations ie we are not challenging for the league and CL every season. His attitude didn't help either, when have you ever seen him with a big grin on his face. He seems like a bit of a miserable fucker.

If you look at the Arsenal set up, his best games have been when the opposition come at us and leave space in behind allowing him to thread passes through to our front men. That coupled with the arrival of Sanchez takes the pressure off him to a degree, allowing him to play with more freedom.

[nut flush gooner]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

Yeah but you would be struggling to add to that list even if given another 10 months gp543!!

Ikechukwa is right on this. Ozil HAS failed to turn up for the really big matches - FA Cup Final apart - and even some smaller ones. Regardless of what anyone thinks of his ability, the truth is he has produced too little compared to what was expected considering his reputation and price tag.

United in the Cup and Liverpool at home were both in the past 4 months...

This is my take on Ozil, he was at a bigger club but knew he had no future there. So in his mind whilst coming to Arsenal wasn't a bad move it was a step down in expectations ie we are not challenging for the league and CL every season. His attitude didn't help either, when have you ever seen him with a big grin on his face. He seems like a bit of a miserable fucker.

If you look at the Arsenal set up, his best games have been when the opposition come at us and leave space in behind allowing him to thread passes through to our front men. That coupled with the arrival of Sanchez takes the pressure off him to a degree, allowing him to play with more freedom.

[OneBardGooner]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

Yeah but you would be struggling to add to that list even if given another 10 months gp543!!

Ikechukwa is right on this. Ozil HAS failed to turn up for the really big matches - FA Cup Final apart - and even some smaller ones. Regardless of what anyone thinks of his ability, the truth is he has produced too little compared to what was expected considering his reputation and price tag.

United in the Cup and Liverpool at home were both in the past 4 months...

This is my take on Ozil, he was at a bigger club but knew he had no future there. So in his mind whilst coming to Arsenal wasn't a bad move it was a step down in expectations ie we are not challenging for the league and CL every season. His attitude didn't help either, when have you ever seen him with a big grin on his face. He seems like a bit of a miserable fucker.

If you look at the Arsenal set up, his best games have been when the opposition come at us and leave space in behind allowing him to thread passes through to our front men. That coupled with the arrival of Sanchez takes the pressure off him to a degree, allowing him to play with more freedom.

uhhmmm you do know he's German don't you nfg ?

Ozil has quality - Oozes 'Class' his tracking back and his tackling have come on greatly - though he still needs to up that area within his work rate and gajme....But he is one of those players born with the skills that most players dream of.....He really struggled with the pace and physicality of the prem when he first came - also he had to contend with playing with a team that is set up to play in a particular way - the Wenger (tippy tappy) way...AND he had to contend with playing with players of a lesser calibre than he was used to - those aren't excuses - I used to rant and rave at his 'lack of effort' ...but they are contributing factors to how he was/is....I think (hope? ) he can be a Huge influence for the better this season...unfortunately the striker/s he is attempting to feed - are rather hit and miss & miss(Ish).
The reason most were hugely excited when he was signed - I exclude Rodders from that as he only has eyes foe Natalie - is that Ozil IS World Class.....but his style of play comes with its flaws.

[markyp]

the cup final is prime example of how we need to set up to get the best of ozil,with Walnutts pace up top ozil's sublime passes have someone to run on to,its no good playing ozil when you have a lump up front in Giroud who makes a snail look quick.the team must be built around ozil to get the best of him

[Redarmy]

100% agree with comments above, as i have stated on earlier post, by some Ozil would be talked off as a luxury player, with some preferring the workhorse but this guy is a thoroughbred...If we can get a striker on the same wavelength yes we will really see the benefit of his vision and range of passing

[StuartL]

Well Tyrone Mings has joined Bournemouth for around 8m we were heavily linked with him a while back.

Ipswich fans seem happy with the deal, so Don't think we have missed out badly on that one.

[arseofacrow]

Well Tyrone Mings has joined Bournemouth for around 8m we were heavily linked with him a while back.

Ipswich fans seem happy with the deal, so Don't think we have missed out badly on that one.

Watched him a couple of times at the end of last season and he's still quite raw.

Doubt he'll be a full back for long. More like centre back.

[Ikechukwu1]

Well here's the logic: with Ozil in the team I've seen Arsensl get destroyed 6-3, 5-1 at Liverpool, 6-0 at Bridge, beaten by Moyes' Manure, humped by Monaco, etc.
There has not been a single big game domestically that Ozil has turned up in, and coincidentally, those are games where the likes of Mertesacker have fucked us. Having a better defender who, you know, defends well would have been of more help than a passenger like Ozil (good player he may be).
But hey, if your criteria is "names on a paper" then sure, happy to go along with your logic

United in the cup, Liverpool at home, Everton in the cup last year...those are the ones that spring to mind after thinking about it for 10 seconds.

Everton a "big game"? Ok then. Let's leave it there then...
We've not come close to a title since Ozil has been there, so it's a stretch to call him a success imo

It was a cup quarterfinal you stupid fuck

Now now little girl. It seems I've blitzed your "big game" theory there. Watch that foul language, apparently the Mods take a hard-line against abusive behaviour!
I didn't know an FA Cup quarter-final, at home, against Everton counted as a "big game".
By that "logic" then, Ozil playing well in a semi against Reading also counts
I think even more comical was you referring to Liverpool at home as a "big game"
That ain't even a big game for Stoke (6-1 victors), Pool were thrashed by West Ham, thrashed by Palace, humiliated by Newcastle, and also by Villa. Hardly Barcelona is it?

Nah you've convinced me of nothing. Sorry young lady.
Ozil is a talented player but for £42m Wenker got his pants pulled down by Real Madrid. I expect the third most expensive player in the history of British football, I expect a lot more. Aguero cost £4m less and he's a huge difference maker. With Ozil, I'm seeing teams like Sunderland and Swansea turn up and easily snuff Arsenal out - isn't a mega-player like him there to precisely open up these sorts of teams?

I won't even mention the CL knockouts where his performances v Bayern and Monaco verged on the unacceptable.
Sanchez cost less and makes more of a difference, Fact. That's what you should expect.
If that £42m had been spent on eg a Yaya type player or a top striker, Arsenal woulda done better in the league.
Hence why this transfer window, it should be a priority to address those 2 positions.