

Wow. When you put it like that... 10 years.donaldo71 wrote:His only asset is pace.His all-round game hasn't developed.He has been at the club for 10 years FFS.What did he actually do to earn his last £7m a year contract?He's agent is a fucking genius or we have a manager who hands out mega contracts to average players.He has now been overtaken by Campbell on form.When Sanchez returns there is no way he can start
Next season then with any luck, the most over-rated player in the Premier league1989 wrote:When Walcott loses his pace he'll be a League 1 player.
Him being better than Ox isn't saying much though is it? They're both mediocre footballers.Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:Walcott is better than Ox, but that's not saying much. Pace, decent finisher (sometimes), but not much else. Can't hold the ball up. Passing is mediocre, non-existent dribbling skills other than push the ball past the defender and run past them. He is okay defensively when he wants to be, which is like 50% of the time.
Watch him vs Alexis and the difference is clear. Even him vs Campbell at the moment. Joel passes and creates MUCH better, is a MUCH harder worker defensively and his finishing is probably about equal. Walcott should not be starting when everyone is healthy, and for someone making his wages that = bad.
I would agree with most of that and add the fact they are English players. Look at the last 5 years of young English players in the premier league, they make it to the first team at their club at 18-20, have a good season,get an England cap or two, move to a big club, get a big contract think they have made it, stop developing and get benched. Its not just the Arsenal English its an epidemic running through the whole premier league. To improve the young English players either ship them overseas or cap their wages until they actually achieve something.augie wrote:Cannot agree that he is better than the ox unless you are talking purely about current form - wally doesnt "push" the ball past the defender.........he kicks and runs after it like some demented forest gump type of playerThe ox, when he came to us first, could dribble past players, could pass the ball better, had a good shot on him and was good in the tackle - now after years of training under le cock, it seems that he can do none of these things and his confidence is totally shot
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However if you put both players under the care of a proper manager and training set up, then I would bet my life that the ox would be a far better player and MAYBE the player we all thought he was when we signed him first (I say maybe because if he stays under wenker's "coaching" for much longer I fear he will be gone to far to "fix" his game)
Wally just pisses me off so much - it's bad enough turning in constantly average performances, but when we have to listen/read him talking the height of bullshit like he is some sort of superstar, then that totally winds me upI fear we have lost the chance of selling him for big money but I would sell him regardless
THIS ^. There is no better way to demotivate an 18-20 year old than to make him a millionaire over night.Nos89 wrote:I would agree with most of that and add the fact they are English players. Look at the last 5 years of young English players in the premier league, they make it to the first team at their club at 18-20, have a good season,get an England cap or two, move to a big club, get a big contract think they have made it, stop developing and get benched. Its not just the Arsenal English its an epidemic running through the whole premier league. To improve the young English players either ship them overseas or cap their wages until they actually achieve something.augie wrote:Cannot agree that he is better than the ox unless you are talking purely about current form - wally doesnt "push" the ball past the defender.........he kicks and runs after it like some demented forest gump type of playerThe ox, when he came to us first, could dribble past players, could pass the ball better, had a good shot on him and was good in the tackle - now after years of training under le cock, it seems that he can do none of these things and his confidence is totally shot
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However if you put both players under the care of a proper manager and training set up, then I would bet my life that the ox would be a far better player and MAYBE the player we all thought he was when we signed him first (I say maybe because if he stays under wenker's "coaching" for much longer I fear he will be gone to far to "fix" his game)
Wally just pisses me off so much - it's bad enough turning in constantly average performances, but when we have to listen/read him talking the height of bullshit like he is some sort of superstar, then that totally winds me upI fear we have lost the chance of selling him for big money but I would sell him regardless
He looked not happy at being subbed.enjibenji wrote:His attitude to being replaced on Sunday was terrible,