THE WENGER THREAD

[Theoperator]

You are missing the point, its not a succession of players, just a few you have picked out. Already others have pointed out some had their moments- just in the last year Chelsea sold Matic and then bought him again, and Manure spunking away £60m on Di Maria who didnt do a lot and selling him on for £44m a year later show its not just us who dont always get it right.

I honestly say again AW has planty of faults, but signing a succession of strikers some good some not good is hardly an indicment, you are being far too selective in your choices. Why not include Anelka Henri RVJP or Greedy in the list?

Ask most trainers Scouts etc and they will almost all say getting players to devellop and picking the right ones is a very large slice of luck.

[kiwomya]

Forgot Vela,Baptista,Stokes,Wreh and Wiltord.

Seriously,all these strikers are good enough to take us to a ECL and Premiership?

Seems to be way too optimistic.

Wow,70 internationals for Lithuania and earmarked to lead the Arsenal attack?.

Also what are those 35 scouts positioned worldwide doing?

BTW i have been supporting Arsenal while you were still in your father's testicle sack.

For all those years supporting Arsenal you've forgotten the medals that Wreh and Wiltord won us. So yes, they were good enough to take us to the Premiership.

These posts are laughable but please keep going.

[Henry Norris 1913]

people slagging reyes & arshavin I don't agree with, but I understand.

however any criticism of wiltord is fucking well out of order

HUGELY pivotal in our 2001-03 cup runs (scored the most important goal, including several v chelsea, hat-trick v qpr, goal v mancs) and the fucking title deciding goal in 2002 and is probably one of our most underrated strikers of all time, alongside john radford and alan smith.

baptista was a loan deal for reyes, worked out ok

stokes? lets not bring cricketers into this ffs- we have enough to bash wenger with

[arseofacrow]

people slagging reyes & arshavin I don't agree with, but I understand.

however any criticism of wiltord is fucking well out of order

HUGELY pivotal in our 2001-03 cup runs (scored the most important goal, including several v chelsea, hat-trick v qpr, goal v mancs) and the fucking title deciding goal in 2002 and is probably one of our most underrated strikers of all time, alongside john radford and alan smith.

baptista was a loan deal for reyes, worked out ok

stokes? lets not bring cricketers into this ffs- we have enough to bash wenger with

Wiltord blended very well with the other guys, often playing out wide (where lets face it, plenty make excuses for recent players because they have to play a few games out wide).

Only numb nuts who didn't attend the games and didn't see everything he contributed could possibly consider Wiltord any kind of failure.

And they don't count anyway

[northbank123]

Does he even know what is Premiership standard?

Look at the shite we had to put up with.

Arshavin
Callberllo
Suker
Danilecicius
Jeffers
Aliadiere
Bendtner
Reyes
Chamakh
Park
Podolski
Diawara
Campbell
Aneke
Emanuelle Thomas

Next defenders..

What a selective list, all managers have good or bad luck with transfers, including players like Caballero or Danilevičius who both had 3 appearences (though Danilevičius did play 70 times for Lithuania national side) just destroys your argument, you could say that we played Yaya Toure (In trials) so Wenger must be great, its just daft. Podolski wasnt "Shite", and which Campbell, Sol (or Kevin, though he went I think just before Wenger arrived) werent shite... As for JET- Jeez the guy played ONCE for us- ONCE. The jurys still out on him anyway- hes at QPR this season..

Incidentally Aneke never made any Arsenal appearences anyway, and Super quality Park one as well, most agree that signing was odd, in fairness though he has made plenty of South Korean international appearences

Theres loads of reasons to pick up Wenger on but lists like this is just fodder for AKBs to laugh at

Agreed. Plus his worst mistakes are not the worst players, they are the players that cost us the most because he stuck with them for so long. The likes of Almunia, Song, Denilson, Clichy (for some people anyway), Eboue, etc.

[Midz]

Buy us 3 players or fuck off and let someone else do it.

Our team is dross and always will be under your management.

[augie]

people slagging reyes & arshavin I don't agree with, but I understand.

however any criticism of wiltord is fucking well out of order

HUGELY pivotal in our 2001-03 cup runs (scored the most important goal, including several v chelsea, hat-trick v qpr, goal v mancs) and the fucking title deciding goal in 2002 and is probably one of our most underrated strikers of all time, alongside john radford and alan smith.

baptista was a loan deal for reyes, worked out ok

stokes? lets not bring cricketers into this ffs- we have enough to bash wenger with

Wiltord blended very well with the other guys, often playing out wide (where lets face it, plenty make excuses for recent players because they have to play a few games out wide).

Only numb nuts who didn't attend the games and didn't see everything he contributed could possibly consider Wiltord any kind of failure.

And they don't count anyway

I'm not sure if I am backing up your point here or not, but Wiltord was a player I never really warmed to I remember him scoring a hat-trick v the shammers on a cold windy day at highbury, and I thought that he was one of the worst players on the pitch that day - his ball control, passing and all round link up play was woeful, but to be fair he took his goals when the chances came along Looking back now I would say that Wiltord might have suffered a bit in my estimation because he wasn't on a par (or anywhere near) with some of his brilliant team-mates at that time

Btw I would never have classed him as a failure at any time so I don't make the numb nuts grade

[northbank123]

WILTORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD

[Blade]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=coBksu9JeO8


Here is SW setting up his beach chair while Carew nets winning goal.

Oh and he had a killer first touch - 30 meters.

[Nos89]

Does he even know what is Premiership standard?

Look at the shite we had to put up with.

Arshavin
Callberllo
Suker
Danilecicius
Jeffers
Aliadiere
Bendtner
Reyes
Chamakh
Park
Podolski
Diawara
Campbell
Aneke
Emanuelle Thomas

Next defenders..

Off the mark with a quite a few there. Arshavin, Reyes, Suker, Poldolski, Chamakh were all great when they arrived and became worse, disinterested or dropped after 6 months. Jeffers was unlucky but still had a good goal to game ratio, plus 2 league, and 2 FA cup winners medals. Bendtner mastered his own downfall, as did Aliadiete. The others barely have a combined total of 20 games.
You could add Luke Freeman, Paul Dickov, Anelka, Van Persie to that list as you seem to be completely random in your selection of players.

[DB10GOONER]

people slagging reyes & arshavin I don't agree with, but I understand.

however any criticism of wiltord is fucking well out of order

HUGELY pivotal in our 2001-03 cup runs (scored the most important goal, including several v chelsea, hat-trick v qpr, goal v mancs) and the fucking title deciding goal in 2002 and is probably one of our most underrated strikers of all time, alongside john radford and alan smith.

baptista was a loan deal for reyes, worked out ok

stokes? lets not bring cricketers into this ffs- we have enough to bash wenger with

Wiltord blended very well with the other guys, often playing out wide (where lets face it, plenty make excuses for recent players because they have to play a few games out wide).

Only numb nuts who didn't attend the games and didn't see everything he contributed could possibly consider Wiltord any kind of failure.

And they don't count anyway

I'm not sure if I am backing up your point here or not, but Wiltord was a player I never really warmed to I remember him scoring a hat-trick v the shammers on a cold windy day at highbury, and I thought that he was one of the worst players on the pitch that day - his ball control, passing and all round link up play was woeful, but to be fair he took his goals when the chances came along Looking back now I would say that Wiltord might have suffered a bit in my estimation because he wasn't on a par (or anywhere near) with some of his brilliant team-mates at that time

Btw I would never have classed him as a failure at any time so I don't make the numb nuts grade

I remember that shammers game as the coldest I've ever been at a football match. It was fucking Baltic. We bought teas at half time just to hold the cups in our hands for heat!

For the rest of you bitches bigging up Wiltord. Please stop. He was bang shit. Even his winner at Old Toilet in 02 was hit right back at Barthez!

[nut flush gooner]

people slagging reyes & arshavin I don't agree with, but I understand.

however any criticism of wiltord is fucking well out of order

HUGELY pivotal in our 2001-03 cup runs (scored the most important goal, including several v chelsea, hat-trick v qpr, goal v mancs) and the fucking title deciding goal in 2002 and is probably one of our most underrated strikers of all time, alongside john radford and alan smith.

baptista was a loan deal for reyes, worked out ok

stokes? lets not bring cricketers into this ffs- we have enough to bash wenger with

Wiltord blended very well with the other guys, often playing out wide (where lets face it, plenty make excuses for recent players because they have to play a few games out wide).

Only numb nuts who didn't attend the games and didn't see everything he contributed could possibly consider Wiltord any kind of failure.

And they don't count anyway

I'm not sure if I am backing up your point here or not, but Wiltord was a player I never really warmed to I remember him scoring a hat-trick v the shammers on a cold windy day at highbury, and I thought that he was one of the worst players on the pitch that day - his ball control, passing and all round link up play was woeful, but to be fair he took his goals when the chances came along Looking back now I would say that Wiltord might have suffered a bit in my estimation because he wasn't on a par (or anywhere near) with some of his brilliant team-mates at that time

Btw I would never have classed him as a failure at any time so I don't make the numb nuts grade

I remember that shammers game as the coldest I've ever been at a football match. It was fucking Baltic. We bought teas at half time just to hold the cups in our hands for heat!

For the rest of you bitches bigging up Wiltord. Please stop. He was bang shit. Even his winner at Old Toilet in 02 was hit right back at Barthez!

Wiltord was a very effective squad player who had the knack of scoring important goals. Not an Arsenal great but certainly made more of a contribution, than the likes of Arshavin and Gervinho.

[Theoperator]

Yeah come on Blade, you forgot Gervinho

[nut flush gooner]

Forgot Vela,Baptista,Stokes,Wreh and Wiltord.

Seriously,all these strikers are good enough to take us to a ECL and Premiership?

Seems to be way too optimistic.

Wow,70 internationals for Lithuania and earmarked to lead the Arsenal attack?.

Also what are those 35 scouts positioned worldwide doing?

BTW i have been supporting Arsenal while you were still in your father's testicle sack.

And yet you can only quote duds (in your opinion) over the last 15 years. You need to get back into the 70s 80s and 90s son. Hillier, McGoldrick, Hayes, Gus Ceaser (I mean how the fuck could you forget Gus!) etc etc etc.

[DB10GOONER]

people slagging reyes & arshavin I don't agree with, but I understand.

however any criticism of wiltord is fucking well out of order

HUGELY pivotal in our 2001-03 cup runs (scored the most important goal, including several v chelsea, hat-trick v qpr, goal v mancs) and the fucking title deciding goal in 2002 and is probably one of our most underrated strikers of all time, alongside john radford and alan smith.

baptista was a loan deal for reyes, worked out ok

stokes? lets not bring cricketers into this ffs- we have enough to bash wenger with

Wiltord blended very well with the other guys, often playing out wide (where lets face it, plenty make excuses for recent players because they have to play a few games out wide).

Only numb nuts who didn't attend the games and didn't see everything he contributed could possibly consider Wiltord any kind of failure.

And they don't count anyway

I'm not sure if I am backing up your point here or not, but Wiltord was a player I never really warmed to I remember him scoring a hat-trick v the shammers on a cold windy day at highbury, and I thought that he was one of the worst players on the pitch that day - his ball control, passing and all round link up play was woeful, but to be fair he took his goals when the chances came along Looking back now I would say that Wiltord might have suffered a bit in my estimation because he wasn't on a par (or anywhere near) with some of his brilliant team-mates at that time

Btw I would never have classed him as a failure at any time so I don't make the numb nuts grade

I remember that shammers game as the coldest I've ever been at a football match. It was fucking Baltic. We bought teas at half time just to hold the cups in our hands for heat!

For the rest of you bitches bigging up Wiltord. Please stop. He was bang shit. Even his winner at Old Toilet in 02 was hit right back at Barthez!

Wiltord was a very effective squad player who had the knack of scoring important goals. Not an Arsenal great but certainly made more of a contribution, than the likes of Arshavin and Gervinho.

Was being a bit facetious.

Again, I'd say Wiltord was average tbh. He did ok in the PL but was not top class, a bit like Giroud. The difference of course was that team Wiltord played in did have a top class striker (TH14) and a top top class striker/Number 10 (DB10) and top class midfielders chipping in with goals (Freddie, Bobby, Romford etc) and all playing in a system that suited most of their abilities. The pressure wasn't on Wiltord whereas the pressure is on Giroud and he has been found wanting. I think if you put Wiltord at his best in the current squad you'd get similar results as we do with Giroud.