As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
I clicked on the replies that he had got expecting that he was being given abuse but no of course not - people were actually agreeing with him
"If you know our club's history then you cannot disagree with this comment. Comparing 1996's position of Arsenal in Premier League to 2015 Wenger has really made a big difference to our club. Thank you Arsene Wenger!!!"
we finished 5th in 1996 and we mostly finish 4th under Wenger so yeah thanks for that
"Wenger is the fa cup king the day will come when we win the European championship he built us a new stadium in the drought periods and aquirered a debt which he has almost paid off he is a legend."
I have no words..
and my favourite
"Wenger is a true arsenal Legend. His philosophy of beautiful football is what makes arsenal so unique. I don't think of any premiere league team that can outplay us. The reason we have #wengerout supporters is because we don't score as much as we play. I think if we won more games than we do now the there would be much lesser wenger haters. As much as we want 'modern' football and say wenger is outdated let us not lose our identity. Look at manchester united right now and how we blew them apart with our fantastic football. Look at chelsea and their defensive mindedness and what has happened so far. All i'm saying is we need our play to match the goals. Lets not adapt but evolve."
there you go we just need to win more matches but obviously it is not Wenger's fault that we don't
StuartL wrote:Hello - you look familiar, have we met before ?
Don't think so, mate. I've lurked here for over a year. I just thought I'd join up and commiserate with the gang.
The fact that Wenger makes almost £22K a DAY now for abject failure since 2008 is scandalous. Only this yank-infested, corporatized club would have tolerated him past 2011.
Aaaaah!
Sean Lurker!... I knew I'd heard that name before!
Fab.....another member of the capital L club
I was referring your avatar, thought I'd seen you around but perhaps it was just a dream ?
No, it's just a reference to what we've been going through since 2008; Groundhog Season.
Gunner Rob wrote:I clicked on the replies that he had got expecting that he was being given abuse but no of course not - people were actually agreeing with him
"If you know our club's history then you cannot disagree with this comment. Comparing 1996's position of Arsenal in Premier League to 2015 Wenger has really made a big difference to our club. Thank you Arsene Wenger!!!"
we finished 5th in 1996 and we mostly finish 4th under Wenger so yeah thanks for that
"Wenger is the fa cup king the day will come when we win the European championship he built us a new stadium in the drought periods and aquirered a debt which he has almost paid off he is a legend."
I have no words..
and my favourite
"Wenger is a true arsenal Legend. His philosophy of beautiful football is what makes arsenal so unique. I don't think of any premiere league team that can outplay us. The reason we have #wengerout supporters is because we don't score as much as we play. I think if we won more games than we do now the there would be much lesser wenger haters. As much as we want 'modern' football and say wenger is outdated let us not lose our identity. Look at manchester united right now and how we blew them apart with our fantastic football. Look at chelsea and their defensive mindedness and what has happened so far. All i'm saying is we need our play to match the goals. Lets not adapt but evolve."
there you go we just need to win more matches but obviously it is not Wenger's fault that we don't
Ahh, Bruce Rioch. Was he really that bad? (Aside from pissing off Wrighty)
Back when Arsenal was Arsenal. I have fond memories of that season as it was my first full season as a fan.
I thought the board's treatment of him was scandalous, the way the sacked him before the start of the season.
Clash wrote:Answer: We're not!
Let's face it - even when Wenger is gone, the myth and aura about him will live on because he has destroyed the club and changed it into something completely different.
Gazidis has said the club has Wenger's DNA Something like that shouldn't have been allowed to happen at a big club like Arsenal ... but it did happen.
Pre-Wenger Arsenal fans (and I include myself in this) wanting our old club back are like someone you see in a film trying to revive a corpse. Slapping it, shaking it, willing it back to life ... we all need someone to come over and drag us away saying ''leave it mate, she's dead''.
Redarmy wrote:Bruce Rioch was rubbish manager apart from signing Dennis Bergkamp, suppose that makes him pretty good
One thing's for sure had wenger been incharge Dennis (God) Bergkamp would be one of our Virtual team that clueless almost signed - So in some ways we can say thabnk the fuckk for Bruce Rioch...
I never thought Rioch was given much of a chance TBF, but then were had a ruthless streak in the board structure and at least we cant blame global warming on him.
Been mulling over the Manure game, and the game to me typified Wenger these days. Yes the first half hour was totally magnificent, BUT as ever we lacked a proper killer instinct- the game was there for a total slaughter, but we took the foot off the pedal, sauntered in, thats enough lads.
There is no way that SAF Maureen or even Brenda ( ) would have let that happen. if we had won 6-0 which we should easily have done we would have left a scar that would have left them questioning themselves (Fans and players) for a long time, As it is they will just see it as a moderate loss.
Wenger was a good manager, but time has seen to that- his foibles have worsened, and he has very cannily sucked 8m as well as the lifeblood from us annually for this.
Theoperator wrote:I never thought Rioch was given much of a chance TBF, but then were had a ruthless streak in the board structure and at least we cant blame global warming on him.
Been mulling over the Manure game, and the game to me typified Wenger these days. Yes the first half hour was totally magnificent, BUT as ever we lacked a proper killer instinct- the game was there for a total slaughter, but we took the foot off the pedal, sauntered in, thats enough lads.
There is no way that SAF Maureen or even Brenda ( ) would have let that happen. if we had won 6-0 which we should easily have done we would have left a scar that would have left them questioning themselves (Fans and players) for a long time, As it is they will just see it as a moderate loss.
Wenger was a good manager, but time has seen to that- his foibles have worsened, and he has very cannily sucked 8m as well as the lifeblood from us annually for this.
Spot on. Coupled with the fact our lot (with the exception of Sanchez) can't finish for shit. Fergie showed no mercy at 8-2 and that result hurt the club for a good while. Wenger isn't ruthless enough to get a result like 6-0 against the mancs or a big side.
Theoperator wrote:I never thought Rioch was given much of a chance TBF, but then were had a ruthless streak in the board structure and at least we cant blame global warming on him.
Been mulling over the Manure game, and the game to me typified Wenger these days. Yes the first half hour was totally magnificent, BUT as ever we lacked a proper killer instinct- the game was there for a total slaughter, but we took the foot off the pedal, sauntered in, thats enough lads.
There is no way that SAF Maureen or even Brenda ( ) would have let that happen. if we had won 6-0 which we should easily have done we would have left a scar that would have left them questioning themselves (Fans and players) for a long time, As it is they will just see it as a moderate loss.
Wenger was a good manager, but time has seen to that- his foibles have worsened, and he has very cannily sucked 8m as well as the lifeblood from us annually for this.
Spot on. Coupled with the fact our lot (with the exception of Sanchez) can't finish for shit. Fergie showed no mercy at 8-2 and that result hurt the club for a good while. Wenger isn't ruthless enough to get a result like 6-0 against the mancs or a big side.
Agreed we had them on the ropes, should have really punished them, in the end they got off lightly
Theoperator wrote:I never thought Rioch was given much of a chance TBF, but then were had a ruthless streak in the board structure and at least we cant blame global warming on him.
Been mulling over the Manure game, and the game to me typified Wenger these days. Yes the first half hour was totally magnificent, BUT as ever we lacked a proper killer instinct- the game was there for a total slaughter, but we took the foot off the pedal, sauntered in, thats enough lads.
There is no way that SAF Maureen or even Brenda ( ) would have let that happen. if we had won 6-0 which we should easily have done we would have left a scar that would have left them questioning themselves (Fans and players) for a long time, As it is they will just see it as a moderate loss.
Wenger was a good manager, but time has seen to that- his foibles have worsened, and he has very cannily sucked 8m as well as the lifeblood from us annually for this.
Spot on. Coupled with the fact our lot (with the exception of Sanchez) can't finish for shit. Fergie showed no mercy at 8-2 and that result hurt the club for a good while. Wenger isn't ruthless enough to get a result like 6-0 against the mancs or a big side.
I see your point totally. It just goes to the limp-wristed Wenker DNA where he doesn't want players who shout at each other, where there's no accountability and where the term "ruthless" is bad. As an example, I genuinely think that if we'd wanted to, we could have scored 5 or 6 against that ManYoo side last weekend, they were that pathetic. But at 3-0 there was no will to over-exert ourselves. Why? Saving ourselves for the energy-sapping "European campaign"?!
He isn't ruthless and never has bee and it's why he'll never ever be one of the great managers. That and his consistent lack of any European success.
Theoperator wrote:I never thought Rioch was given much of a chance TBF, but then were had a ruthless streak in the board structure and at least we cant blame global warming on him.
Been mulling over the Manure game, and the game to me typified Wenger these days. Yes the first half hour was totally magnificent, BUT as ever we lacked a proper killer instinct- the game was there for a total slaughter, but we took the foot off the pedal, sauntered in, thats enough lads.
There is no way that SAF Maureen or even Brenda ( ) would have let that happen. if we had won 6-0 which we should easily have done we would have left a scar that would have left them questioning themselves (Fans and players) for a long time, As it is they will just see it as a moderate loss.
Wenger was a good manager, but time has seen to that- his foibles have worsened, and he has very cannily sucked 8m as well as the lifeblood from us annually for this.
I wish today's board was as ruthless as they were in 1996.
I was also pissed off we didn't score more against Ushited. We should have avenged that 8-2 with a 6-0 or 7-0 victory against those bastards. Nope! Got to save ourselves for the Be All and End All
It's surprising that a manager who acts like a pussy ever went unbeaten. Although it does seem it was entirely down to that great squad of players. Unfortunately, since then Wenger has insisted on trying to win in an impossible way for this league (Tippy-tappy vs strength).
Absolute fucking FAILURE in Europe though, no question. How does Copenhagen 1994 compare to one CL final in 18 seasons? Europe means nothing under this manager now.
Redarmy wrote:Bruce Rioch was rubbish manager apart from signing Dennis Bergkamp, suppose that makes him pretty good
One thing's for sure had wenger been incharge Dennis (God) Bergkamp would be one of our Virtual team that clueless almost signed - So in some ways we can say thabnk the fuckk for Bruce Rioch...
Don't be so naive....Platt and Bergkamp were Dein signings not Riochs. Don't think he was in the job long enough to recommend those two to the board. Didn't he want Owen Coyle from Bolton to replace Ian Wright ? Sounds like a boss who's want to sign two players from Italy.
Redarmy wrote:Bruce Rioch was rubbish manager apart from signing Dennis Bergkamp, suppose that makes him pretty good
One thing's for sure had wenger been incharge Dennis (God) Bergkamp would be one of our Virtual team that clueless almost signed - So in some ways we can say thabnk the fuckk for Bruce Rioch...
Don't be so naive....Platt and Bergkamp were Dein signings not Riochs. Don't think he was in the job long enough to recommend those two to the board. Didn't he want Owen Coyle from Bolton to replace Ian Wright ? Sounds like a boss who's want to sign two players from Italy.
Was just about to post this. Also, there is a story some French journo tells that it was Wenger that put Dein onto Bergkamp because he'd heard Bergkamp was unhappy in Italy and was gettable. Whether that bit is true, who knows, but certainly Rioch had fuck all to do with signing Bergkamp. Allegedly Dein just said to him, "I can get Bergkamp, can you use him" and Rioch said "yeah".
Rioch was a fucking arsehole tbh. He wanted to unload Wrighty because he didn't like his arrogance. Unload the greatest striker in the club's history because he didn't like him? The stupid prick. That was one power struggle he was never going to win. Thankfully.
Gunner Rob wrote:Wenger has just come out with a classic at his press conference this morning
"The top eight can compete for the Premier League. It is difficult to rule anybody out."
isn't it great to be in a title race alongside Leicester City and Crystal Palace
He expanded on that by saying that "You can compete for the championship if you turn up and fight for every game".........says a lot about non existent title challenges of recent years
Redarmy wrote:Bruce Rioch was rubbish manager apart from signing Dennis Bergkamp, suppose that makes him pretty good
One thing's for sure had wenger been incharge Dennis (God) Bergkamp would be one of our Virtual team that clueless almost signed - So in some ways we can say thabnk the fuckk for Bruce Rioch...
Don't be so naive....Platt and Bergkamp were Dein signings not Riochs. Don't think he was in the job long enough to recommend those two to the board. Didn't he want Owen Coyle from Bolton to replace Ian Wright ? Sounds like a boss who's want to sign two players from Italy.
God you talk bollocks. So invented it's comical.
No that's not what happened. It's well known by anyone who's supported Arsenal BLW (Before Lord Wenger) that Rioch asked Ian Wright to try and play more like Tosh McKinlay of Bolton. He never tried to sign him, he instead asked Wrighty to watch video footage of his movements.
That was one power struggle he was never going to win. Thankfully. 
