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Isn't the FBI built on having the dirt on political figures and thus keeping them in check, I thought that is how it grew as large as it is today. I'm going to say FBI wins .GoonerMuzz wrote:Interesting to see what happens between the FBI and the Justice Department now, one side appears to be backing Trump the other Clinton this could get tasty
I'm inclined to agree Akney, they have dirt on practically anyone and you don't really want to start a shit flinging match with them unless you're absolutely sure you're squeaky clean, even then 'evidence' can be made to appear when you have the resources they haveAkneyGooner wrote:Isn't the FBI built on having the dirt on political figures and thus keeping them in check, I thought that is how it grew as large as it is today. I'm going to say FBI wins .GoonerMuzz wrote:Interesting to see what happens between the FBI and the Justice Department now, one side appears to be backing Trump the other Clinton this could get tasty
Are you insane?Wilson wrote:Nothing wrong with Hillary. Would make a great President. Plus Bill would be back in the White House.
The Clintons are criminals. She is Satan incarnate. You need to read a bit about her and her scumbag husband. Read about how she targeted the women her "charismatic" filthbag of a husband "allegedly" raped and molested. Read about Craig Livingstone, the Travelgate scandal, the Benghazi Scandal, the Cattle Money/Tyson Foods Scandal, the Whitewater scandal(s), the Clinton Foundation scandal, her dealings with criminals like Norman Hsu and Jorge Cabrera, her lies about coming under sniper fire in Bosnia, the $190,000 worth of property she "removed" from the White House when leaving, her constant bypassing of email security protocols. The list goes on and on. 
Utter shitbag of a man. He was involved in nearly every scandal that his cúnt wife was involved in and then you can add; abusing the power of the IRS to harass and exact revenge on political enemies, auctioning off and selling taxpayer-financed government goods and services in exchange for political campaign contributions and personal profit, molesting and sexually harassing female staff members, illegally obtaining FBI files on perceived adversaries. 
Of course the possibility that any of those MIA soldiers in Vietnam were still alive in 1993 was remote at best, but if there was even the slightest possibility of even one of them being still alive then it should have been investigated as a priority. To risk life and limb to serve your country and then be abandoned to your fate by your President is the ultimate cunting...The Clinton's (both Bill and Hillary) are cynical corrupt vapid lying shitbags. The list of scandals and corruption during Clinton's presidency is astonishing, but the two that sicken me the most are;
1. The cowardly media whore cúnt had a clear opportunity to assassinate Osama bin Laden on at least 4 occasions (some former CIA / NSA operatives claim 9 occasions) before 9/11. Clinton would not authorise a Capture or Kill mission because he was afraid of the negative media impact on his Presidency of a repeat of the “Black Hawk Down” incident in Mogadishu. By not taking the chance(s) to kill bin Laden he basically doomed 3000 innocent people to die in the Twin Towers because of his moral cowardice and self interest.
2. Possibly worse and more cynically cowardly was his abandoning MIA US servicemen to death. The CIA and NSA told him in 1993 that they had very creditable evidence that a small number of surviving American POW’s from the Vietnam war were still being held captive in Laos and Vietnamese prison camps. At the time Clinton was negotiating an end to the trade embargo on Vietnam (and possible US access to Vietnamese oil fields) and Clinton buried the report, effectively abandoning those men to their fate.
What sickens me is the Oirish love-in with Clinton because he came here, said some nice things about the Oirish, smiled his cheesy media whore smile, and waved at a few people in the crowd. And now you get fucking idiots in this country that hail him as “a truly great President, a man of character and charisma”.
When basically he’s a cúnt. As is his corrupt lying whore of a wife and her cheesy media whore smile.
Cmon, you dont believe all that do you?DB10GOONER wrote:Are you insane?Wilson wrote:Nothing wrong with Hillary. Would make a great President. Plus Bill would be back in the White House.
As for Rapey Bill?
Fuck it, here read this;
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-ar ... dals-ever/
Even if you allow for that site's obvious anti-Clinton stance, the scandals involving these two scumbags are shocking.
The real issue here is that the American people face an election between a moron and a crook.
The list of scandals and corruption involving Clinton and his wife is huge. You honestly think it was all made up? Jesus, you are a believer aren't you?Wilson wrote:Cmon, you dont believe all that do you?DB10GOONER wrote:Are you insane?Wilson wrote:Nothing wrong with Hillary. Would make a great President. Plus Bill would be back in the White House.
As for Rapey Bill?
Fuck it, here read this;
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-ar ... dals-ever/
Even if you allow for that site's obvious anti-Clinton stance, the scandals involving these two scumbags are shocking.
The real issue here is that the American people face an election between a moron and a crook.
The Clinton's have their haters, just look at the ones are adamant Vince Foster was murdered (look it up if your not familiar with it).
Plus, I think to man people look for perfection in political leaders. Bill Clinton may have women problems, but his presidency is the closest thing to perfection post WWII. It says a lot about the mans presidency, that the only think republicans can criticize him on, is having his cock sucked in the oval office.
) for the last few months on this issue, and she had previously refused to accept the possibility that trump will win the election..........now she knows different It has long been my belief that America has a racist element that would put apartheid south Africa to shame, and they will come out in droves to vote in racist trump as their leader My good wife couldn't accept that she (Clinton) wasn't liked and preferred to delude herself that it was just an agenda against having a female president She is obviously still praying for a Clinton victory (as most of us are I suspect), but I think that she no longer believes that she will winDB10GOONER wrote:The list of scandals and corruption involving Clinton and his wife is huge. You honestly think it was all made up? Jesus, you are a believer aren't you?Wilson wrote:Cmon, you dont believe all that do you?DB10GOONER wrote:Are you insane?Wilson wrote:Nothing wrong with Hillary. Would make a great President. Plus Bill would be back in the White House.
As for Rapey Bill?
Fuck it, here read this;
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-ar ... dals-ever/
Even if you allow for that site's obvious anti-Clinton stance, the scandals involving these two scumbags are shocking.
The real issue here is that the American people face an election between a moron and a crook.
The Clinton's have their haters, just look at the ones are adamant Vince Foster was murdered (look it up if your not familiar with it).
Plus, I think to man people look for perfection in political leaders. Bill Clinton may have women problems, but his presidency is the closest thing to perfection post WWII. It says a lot about the mans presidency, that the only think republicans can criticize him on, is having his cock sucked in the oval office.
His federal crime bill in 1994 certainly put some hardened criminals in jail based on "3 strikes and you are out" but it also put thousands of low level non violent criminals away for life, costing the American tax payer billions and putting huge strain on the prison system. He admits himself it was a mistake; "The problem is the way it was written and implemented is we cast too wide a net and we had too many people in prison, And we wound up... putting so many people in prison that there wasn't enough money left to educate them, train them for new jobs and increase the chances when they came out so they could live productive lives." But he even lies in that explanation. It was a deliberate choice. He saw the political popularity of being tough on crime, he fully embraced the lock-'em-up-and-throw-away-the-key mentality, and publicly gloated about three strikes at the time. During Clinton's tenure, federal prison spending jumped $19 billion (171%), while funding for public housing declined by $17 billion (61%). Under Clinton, nearly $1 billion in state spending shifted from education to prisons.
And you think this corrupt idiot's "presidency is the closest thing to perfection post WWII"?
Christ.
For me Clinton is more dangerous than Trumptard. If he gets elected he is so openly stupid he will get himself impeached within a year. She on the other hand is a manipulative evil conniving bitch and would manage to stay in power for at least the first 4 year term. The fact she is not currently in jail after the amount of scandals she's been involved in says everything about her survival instincts.augie wrote:I have argued with the wife (nothing new there
Lets be honest here, if Clinton couldn't blow trump out of the water in the last 6 weeks (when even trumps own party were backing away from him amid all the sexual scandals), then she never will. As DB10 has constantly said, Hilary Clinton is a deeply unlikeable person and she seems to place herself above the people on the street
My missus hates Hillary Clinton because she "stood by her husband" and "betrayed all womanhood" etc blah blah etc when he lied to the American public about sticking his dick in Monica Lewinsky's mouth. She said to me "No way I'd support you if your secretary sucked your dick".augie wrote:I have argued with the wife (nothing new there
Lets be honest here, if Clinton couldn't blow trump out of the water in the last 6 weeks (when even trumps own party were backing away from him amid all the sexual scandals), then she never will. As DB10 has constantly said, Hilary Clinton is a deeply unlikeable person and she seems to place herself above the people on the street
I have to wholeheartedly agree with my wee tricolour!DB10GOONER wrote:The list of scandals and corruption involving Clinton and his wife is huge. You honestly think it was all made up? Jesus, you are a believer aren't you?Wilson wrote:Cmon, you dont believe all that do you?DB10GOONER wrote:Are you insane?Wilson wrote:Nothing wrong with Hillary. Would make a great President. Plus Bill would be back in the White House.
As for Rapey Bill?
Fuck it, here read this;
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-ar ... dals-ever/
Even if you allow for that site's obvious anti-Clinton stance, the scandals involving these two scumbags are shocking.
The real issue here is that the American people face an election between a moron and a crook.
The Clinton's have their haters, just look at the ones are adamant Vince Foster was murdered (look it up if your not familiar with it).
Plus, I think to man people look for perfection in political leaders. Bill Clinton may have women problems, but his presidency is the closest thing to perfection post WWII. It says a lot about the mans presidency, that the only think republicans can criticize him on, is having his cock sucked in the oval office.
His "presidency is the closest thing to perfection post WWII"???!! You simply must be joking. His entire presidency was based upon cheesy "charisma" and his hackneyed populist politics. Clinton was a charlatan, the ultimate bandwagon jumper and self publicist. You have bought into his publicity and his cheesy smile. Here are the facts about his presidency;
The "strong American economy" of the 90s that he gets credited with was the work of Alan Greenspan, and fortunate timing, as thanks to information technology and the disinflation of that decade, those were likely to be good years either way.
Clinton jumped on the Irish Peace Process bandwagon when the dirty (but necessary) work of speaking to the IRA had qbeen done by John Hume (who was initially criticised by both British Prime Minister Tony Blair and the Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern before they too jumped on the bandwagon once it looked like it might work).
His federal crime bill in 1994 certainly put some hardened criminals in jail based on "3 strikes and you are out" but it also put thousands of low level non violent criminals away for life, costing the American tax payer billions and putting huge strain on the prison system. He admits himself it was a mistake; "The problem is the way it was written and implemented is we cast too wide a net and we had too many people in prison, And we wound up... putting so many people in prison that there wasn't enough money left to educate them, train them for new jobs and increase the chances when they came out so they could live productive lives." But he even lies in that explanation. It was a deliberate choice. He saw the political popularity of being tough on crime, he fully embraced the lock-'em-up-and-throw-away-the-key mentality, and publicly gloated about three strikes at the time. During Clinton's tenure, federal prison spending jumped $19 billion (171%), while funding for public housing declined by $17 billion (61%). Under Clinton, nearly $1 billion in state spending shifted from education to prisons.
His punitive welfare reforms led to a massive increase in poor black families living in abject poverty.
He signed into law more financial deregulation legislation than any other president. He deregulated the risky derivatives market (Commodity Futures Modernization Act), gutted state regulation of banks leading to a wave of banking mergers, which led in no small part to the global financial crisis of 2008 and the "too-big-to-fail" ethos, with the US federal government obligated to bail out multinational banks. The Columbia Journalism Review publicly stated; “The bottom line is: Bill Clinton was responsible for more damaging financial deregulation—and thus, for the [2008] financial crisis—than any other president.” http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/bill_clint ... cans_m.php
He basically gutted America’s manufacturing base by promoting and passing the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, in 1993. This caused the permanent loss of 700,000 manufacturing jobs in industrial states such as California, Texas and Michigan. It gave corporate managers an excuse to cut wages and benefits, threatening otherwise to move to Mexico. Selling U.S. farm products in Mexico dislocated millions of Mexican workers and their families, which was a major cause in the dramatic increase in undocumented workers flowing into the US labour market.
The discriminatory defense of marriage act signed into law by Clinton in 1996, defined spouse as "heterosexual" and deprived legally wed same-sex couples of many significant benefits, from Social Security benefits to hospital visitation rights. He signed it in a self serving act of moral cowardice as he wanted to keep the conservative right on his side whilst looking for re-election.
Even when the cowardly Clinton tried to get tough on terror he got it wrong; His 1998 bombing of the Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Sudan destroyed a facility that provided 50 percent of Sudan’s medicines and was the country’s main source of anti-malaria drugs. Germany’s ambassador to Sudan, Werner Daum, stated the bombing led to "several tens of thousands of deaths”.
His expansion of Bush's 1990 Iraq sanctions decimated the Iraqi economy, crippled the civilian infrastructure, and according to a 1999 UNICEF survey, ultimately led to the deaths of more than 500,000 children.
Ever the moral coward, Clinton knew about the upcoming Rwandan genocide. This might be Clinton’s worst foreign policy failure. Intelligence analysts knew in advance about the plans for the Hutu-led genocide against Tutsis in Rwanda, yet Clinton did nothing to try to stop it. In 2013, Clinton told MSNBS that he could have sent some 10,000 US troops to Rwanda to support a UN peacekeeping force and perhaps saved 300,000 lives. In retrospect, Clinton said, “You can’t stop everything bad that's happening" and pointed to "his" success ending sectarian violence in Northern Ireland - which was bollocks as he ended nothing in NI.
And you think this corrupt idiot's "presidency is the closest thing to perfection post WWII"?
Christ.