As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
SteveO 35 wrote:In the same way Graham couldn't cope with the Sky / Premiership era and the newly found riches it brought to many teams, so Wenger has consistently proved he can't cope with the era of the oligarch and the ever growing wealth of PL clubs. He predicted back in 2009 that football was in an 'unsustainable bubble' and the lap dogs bought into his amateur economic assessment and scorned at the Citehs and Chavs of this world. Sadly TO1AW's much vaunted economics degree was decades ago now, and he failed to spot the obvious that the 1% Uber-rich of this world wouldn't recognise a recession if it slapped them in the face and carried on regardless investing hundreds of millions into their clubs.
Then along came FFP - a concept so fundamentally flawed that UEFA gave up on it - but again TO1AW was able to buy time for those who 'chose to believe' by clinging to the notion that the suits in UEFA would put the handbrake on the spending of the biggest clubs. Oh dear...
Finally there's the 'stadium project' - the one where we destroyed 93 years of history in order to compete with Europe's elite. Although it was NEVER mentioned at the time the sheep have somehow tried to re-invent history and imagine that what was announced was a 10 year cunning plan (no doubt that's going to be revised to 15 or 20 years shortly) and that we had to take commercial deals at the time that were below the market in order to fund the stadium. Oh dear....along came Ivan and his highly expensive team of marketeers and faceless commercials to tell us that the deals we were now signing would see us catapulted back up the rich list. We earn so much free cash flow now that servicing the remaining interest and capital repayments on the stadium is like a pimple on the arse.
There is one simple fact that remains through all of this - our manager doesn't want to live in this modern world. Its against his principles and the lifetime 'Project Impossible' is to stick two fingers up at the nouveau riche and to win the league with a mixture of home developed players, British buys from smaller clubs, one or two worldies every few seasons, and a bunch of no-marks that no other top team would look at in their right mind but who save us from dizzying prices. To me its been obvious since 2008/09 that this manager will not sway in his approach and there is only one direction from here under his leadership which is downwards. All it will take now is for one or two other clubs in the PL to benefit from a Sheikh Mansour or Abramovich and our days of top 4 which means so much to so many (yuk) will be over
You've managed a "handbrake" reference as well as a "musical" one both in the same post! Top work
Only "Special circumstances" missing for the full house!
The latest AKB barometer I've noticed has come in the wake of Neville getting tonked 7-0 at Barca last night.
Apart from the obvious point about what is going to happen to Wenker's ballerinas when they travel up there in a few weeks...there's another point here. AKBs are saying "Neville criticised Arsene in the studio but it's easy to do as a pundit eh".
This overlooks two fundamental points:
1. According to Lord Trou du Cul, the only people worthy of criticising him have to have managed a club side. Neville now has.
2. Neville conceded 7 goals to possibly the greatest team ever assembled, possibly the greatest player to have ever graced the game, the reigning European and treble champs, and the current 3 best players in Europe. I reckon that's a bit different to conceding EIGHT against Ashley Young, Michael Carrick, Park Ji-Sung and friends don't you?
It’s an interesting insight into Wenger’s view of the transfer market as a whole. Arsenal’s best three signings of the last five years (Petr Cech, Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez) were all unwanted by their clubs. They did not “walk in off the street”, but Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barcelona made it clear that all three could leave. When was the last time Arsenal bought a player that another high-profile club didn’t want to sell?
That was a point I was making only the other day. The only reason Dross-pina isn't between the sticks this year is because Chelsea upgraded their goalkeeper in 2014 which led to Cech becoming surplus to requirements. Think about that for a second!!! The only reason we have improved the goalkeeping situation at our club, which let's face it has been nothing short of abysmal for years, is because Chelsea FC signed a world class keeper! If they hadn't we'd be still lumbered with Dross-pina and Mr. Woodbines
Cech wanted to stay in London, preferably at a club in the CL, which made us the only show in town. The perfect Wenger signing - the player wants to leave, his club were prepared to let him go and hey presto you get a player walking around North London knocking on Wenger's door asking to be signed!
That last point about when the last time we bought a player that another high-profile club didn’t want to sell has been made countless times on here by others. Quite simply Wenger hasn't the stones for the job and that question will remain unanswered until the glorious day he FCUKS off
It’s an interesting insight into Wenger’s view of the transfer market as a whole. Arsenal’s best three signings of the last five years (Petr Cech, Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez) were all unwanted by their clubs. They did not “walk in off the street”, but Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barcelona made it clear that all three could leave. When was the last time Arsenal bought a player that another high-profile club didn’t want to sell?
That was a point I was making only the other day. The only reason Dross-pina isn't between the sticks this year is because Chelsea upgraded their goalkeeper in 2014 which led to Cech becoming surplus to requirements. Think about that for a second!!! The only reason we have improved the goalkeeping situation at our club, which let's face it has been nothing short of abysmal for years, is because Chelsea FC signed a world class keeper! If they hadn't we'd be still lumbered with Dross-pina and Mr. Woodbines
Cech wanted to stay in London, preferably at a club in the CL, which made us the only show in town. The perfect Wenger signing - the player wants to leave, his club were prepared to let him go and hey presto you get a player walking around North London knocking on Wenger's door asking to be signed!
That last point about when the last time we bought a player that another high-profile club didn’t want to sell has been made countless times on here by others. Quite simply Wenger hasn't the stones for the job and that question will remain unanswered until the glorious day he FCUKS off
Me for one - it is all well and good saying how we should be delighted that wed got world class players like ozil and sanchez (which we are), but it totally ignores the fact that we lack the balls to get out aggressively and unsettle a top player from a club that didn't want to sell Of course we wouldn't be able to get a player from the likes of real Madrid, barca and Bayern (if they were getting game time), but are we honestly saying that we are not a big enough club to get the likes of reus or hummels from Dortmund or bender from Leverkusen or even griezeman from ath Madrid ? Yes we would have to pay maybe £10m above market value, but that is what ambitious clubs with a huge transfer kitty do
From listening to wengers bullshit ramblings, are we to assume that elneny went to le cocks house uninvited and knocked on his door asking him to buy him ?? Expect more average signings once word of this leaks out
Wenger will be still here in 5 years time and thats that, I defend him on here for his past achievements and still won't resort to writing about him with some of the vitriol I see on this forum but he really should just retire and enjoy his enormous wealth.
Ancelotti was my favourite to take over but now that ship has sailed, Pep was obviously a great option too but another one missed so that leaves mourinho and pellegrini as two high profile managers definitely available.
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Wenger will be still here in 5 years time and thats that, I defend him on here for his past achievements and still won't resort to writing about him with some of the vitriol I see on this forum but he really should just retire and enjoy his enormous wealth.
Ancelotti was my favourite to take over but now that ship has sailed, Pep was obviously a great option too but another one missed so that leaves mourinho and pellegrini as two high profile managers definitely available.
Would take either at this point.
it makes you begin to wonder who really would be left to take over when he finally fucks off in a million years time,Pep and Ancellotti may have well retired by then
This is frankly hilarious. I was so looking forward to Theo's latest motormouth interview where he tells the Spanish rags that Barca ought to be running scared and should fear our awesome attack, on a par with the Barca front 3, with zero goals in over 270 minutes of league football
It's almost as if Lord Wenker has suddenly realised that the mother of all batterings is coming his way, and he's trying to close ranks to avoid the players words coming back to haunt them. Funny how the players are always free to mouth off before facing Southampton, Watford and Sunderland but curiously, not before the real big clubs?
This is frankly hilarious. I was so looking forward to Theo's latest motormouth interview where he tells the Spanish rags that Barca ought to be running scared and should fear our awesome attack, on a par with the Barca front 3, with zero goals in over 270 minutes of league football
It's almost as if Lord Wenker has suddenly realised that the mother of all batterings is coming his way, and he's trying to close ranks to avoid the players words coming back to haunt them. Funny how the players are always free to mouth off before facing Southampton, Watford and Sunderland but curiously, not before the real big clubs?
No big bullshit quotes from Wally FFS that is his only contribution
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Wenger will be still here in 5 years time and thats that, I defend him on here for his past achievements.
his past achievement aren't being called into question, most of us will happily celebrate the invincibles or even the '98 team as our best ever, but it simply isn't relevant to judging him anymore. especially when a lot of our fans just the yardstick for success as a totally different one to the one that was used back then when success wasn't finishing 2nd, let alone 4th.
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Wenger will be still here in 5 years time and thats that, I defend him on here for his past achievements and still won't resort to writing about him with some of the vitriol I see on this forum but he really should just retire and enjoy his enormous wealth.
Ancelotti was my favourite to take over but now that ship has sailed, Pep was obviously a great option too but another one missed so that leaves mourinho and pellegrini as two high profile managers definitely available.
Would take either at this point.
As far as I'm concerned, he deserves all the vitriol he gets. This is a man who said a few seasons ago, when referencing the high prices we pay in to the Emirates, "you go to the game, and then judge was it worth the price you paid ". This from someone who earns 8M a year to do sweet fuck all and had the cheek to talk down to the fans. Add to that him lashing out at anyone who questions him, then he deserves all the criticism he gets.
He deserves everything he gets and then some.
The arrogant fucker is damaging our chances of success right now. He got all the plaudits when he was successful, now he needs to take his medicine for turning us into also-rans. The cowardly bastard.
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Wenger will be still here in 5 years time and thats that, I defend him on here for his past achievements.
his past achievement aren't being called into question, most of us will happily celebrate the invincibles or even the '98 team as our best ever, but it simply isn't relevant to judging him anymore. especially when a lot of our fans just the yardstick for success as a totally different one to the one that was used back then when success wasn't finishing 2nd, let alone 4th.
Yes, very strange. Seeing us Wenger himself had no sentiment in giving one year contracts to the likes of Bergkamp and Pires.
He's a C**t. A lying, arrogant, condescending, Loser, vagina-faced Fuckwit. Just look at his patronising response to the journo on strikers. Apparently, he once did a good job about 12 years ago though so that means he shouldn't get any vitriol at all forevermore
You'll always have peasants willing to cup his balls and drink forevermore from the eternal rim of speeweet but they're hilarious.
He was happy to talk down to everyone and lie, and patronise so now when he's down I'll be joining in kicking this piece of shit as often as possible. Couldn't happen to a shinier turd.
What irritates me the most, is he genuinely believes the job he is doing should be appreciated. However, with another manager, this group of players could achieve so much more.
Tactically naive. Pi.. poor at getting the players in a right frame of mind, infact he does the opposite and seems to create a lot of nervousness within the playing group. There are also times when he frankly delusional, such as his belief that we are as good as Bayern or Barcelona simply because we beat them in one of games, even though those games were part of a two legged tie and we got thrashed in the return tie. Even this year our win against Bayern followed a 5-1 thrashing in the away fixture. Does he literally not grasp a hard fought home victory means F all if you get tonked in the away leg? Either he is delusional in that regard, or clings onto these type of results as evidence of progress. For instance, when Barcelona played Man United in the CL final in 2011, Wenger was so thrilled to say we had beaten the CL finalists, as we beat Barcelona 2-1 in the first leg, and had beat Man United 1-0 in the league. Even though we lost the overall tie to Barcelona, and Man United rested several players because of their CL commitments and had a sizable lead at the top - he still thought this was a great thing.
Why do you think Ferguson softened up to him in the later years - because he saw Arsene had changed for the worse, and was no longer a threat.
Delusional
weak
arrogant
ignorant
naive
smug
boring
old fashioned
stubborn
old
Of course we wouldn't be able to get a player from the likes of real Madrid, barca and Bayern (if they were getting game time), but are we honestly saying that we are not a big enough club to get the likes of reus or hummels from Dortmund or bender from Leverkusen or even griezeman from ath Madrid ? Yes we would have to pay maybe £10m above market value, but that is what ambitious clubs with a huge transfer kitty do 
