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Slightly incoherrent. The evidence is clear that City bid for Rice. You could either provide evidence to the contrary or keep falling back to the figment of your imagination.
Going by your argument, Thierry Henry was a journey man squad player because he wasn't your tabloid style superstar signing and was not signed for a huge transfer fee either. Same goes for Salah. Can you not see how ridiculous this sounds?
You still cannot sunstantiate your argument that we are the most high profile selling club in England smh
Ok lord harris.
There’s no evidence for a city bid, it’s a website article claiming there’s a city bid. If a bbc article is your evidence then a career in law is not for you.
As for Henry, as soon as he bottled the majors for us we sold him, as with all other class players we’ve had in the last 30 years….sold on and tell me now, in which cases were those class players replaced with appropriate replacements. It’s hasn’t happened, we’ve sold our best players and not replaced them. And we’re a high profile club. So put the 2 together and you can see why we’re the premier leagues most high profile selling club.
A simple Google would reveal that City's bid for Rice was reported by most reputable news outlets, not just the BBC, so on the balance of probability if you understand anything about law, it is likely to be true. You can't be bothered to do a simple research but believe your own speculation and this is exactly the problem.
I stopped reading after bottled the majors. Are you a yank per chance.
Our reputation as a selling club ended when the dinosaur was finally relieved from his misery.
Balance of probability applies in cases that are presented in a court of law, your not in a court of law, your on a football forum. A website story claiming a bid from a club is not evidence of a bid. Several websites claiming there’s same thing is not evidence of a bid. The only evidence of a Man City bid for Declan rice would come from either Man City or West Ham.
I’m not an American no, bottled the majors is just the phrase I picked for Henry to highlight that in an awful lot of major or high importance games he went missing entirely or bottled the games major chances and was sold off being considered surplus to requirements, a move that IMO costs him any legendary status he might have had.
Now take a look at the long long list of players that were supposed to replace Henry (admittedly a hard job) none were up to the task and all were sold on. In a more reasonable timeframe Aubameyang might have hit those numbers but guess what…. We sold him.
Pick any position and you can do the same thing, a great player not replaced with all attempts being sub standard and the resultant hires being sold on.
The slow down of our selling is as a direct result of our years of being a selling club. We’ve very little left to sell, no ones queuing up for our players cause the majority of them are bang average. Wait till Saka and saliba are on their way out the door and you can do your best Perry mason impression to convince yourself it’s not true.
If something has a 51% chance of being true, then on the balance of probability, it is true. You can't even tell the difference between cogent evidence and a simple argument so take heed to your own advice and never try a career in law.
Henry gave us his best years and is one of the greatest players the PL has ever seen. He single handedly carried the club through the lean years and is undoubtedly a legend here You must live in some altenative reality if you think otheriwse. If you do great 95% of the time and fail 5%, negative people would only remember the 5%.
I've said time and time again that some of of you are hellbent on being negative because you are miserable and Arsenal is a easy lightning rod for you. You can't erase the impression that you get thrills from watching the team/Arteta fail which begs the question why you even bother watching. This club is a much better shape than the one the old fraud left behind and as I said, our reputation as a selling club hasn't been true since he left. Again if you believe otheriwse, that's your problem.
yeah you wont find me working in law, by choice......an industry that doesnt appeal on any level. I'll duck into the bookies on the way home today to place my bets for the weekend.......wait till you hear my complaints the the laws of probability didnt work in my favor.
Henry was a fantastic player for us, theres no argument there. We won an awful lot of games solely based on the fact that he was playing. But is he a legend, i certainly dont think so for the reasons ive mentioned. And i know im not the only one on here to think like that. His legacy is tainted which means all of achievements cant be mentioned without the fact that theres significant negatives to be mentioned also. Its possible if he finished up at Arsenal it would have happened but obviously we'll never know.
And i bother watching because its what ive done since roughly 1979 or thereabouts, nobody wants Arsenal FC to succeed in the trophy stakes more than i do. And to see the way the club is managed is a hard thing to do given how much im emotionally invested in the club. Since we're on the theme of Law...you wouldnt hand over one of the largest law firms in the country to someone looking for an internship would you, thats exactly what we've done with Arteta.....and it shows! And thats not to say he hasnt got some calls right because he has...eh...mustafi, maitland niles and pepe are the names that come to mind that were obvious candidates that were shipped out.
But we're still a selling club, we're just not selling as much due to the quality of players being consistently driven downwards.
I dont know the number here but how much do you reckon we got back for this lot in the last 4-5 years
Wellbeck
Ramsey
Monreal
Lichectsteiner?
Asano
Ospina
Jenkinson
Koscielny
Bielik
Iwobi
Macey
Sokritis
Ozil
MArtinez
Willock
Chambers
and Auba
Edit....adding MAri, Soares, Runnarson and Ramsdale.
Theres 17 players..there could be more that as far as i can remember all went on a free of for pittance since Wonga left, Emery and Arteta have not changed the fact that we have absolute bog standard players on high salaries leaving the club for very little or any money at all.
Come back in another 5 years and you can add the majority of todays squad to that list.
Understand that Atlético Madrid have now entered the race for Oleksandr #Zinchenko.
