The managers wage is irrelevant. He gets paid the same as any great manager would at any club. What do you think a more reasonable wage should be? Would the decrease that you propose in his wage give us enough funds to buy world class players?armchair wrote:Oh sweet jesus.
After Wenger comes out with his disgraceful attempt at justifying Arsenals scandalous ticket prices while picking up an obscene 8 million pa and still paying Sanogo 30,000pw his apologists resort to the........
"We cant compete with the money clubs" nonsense yet again
It really is a complete waste of time.
No, but what it would do is make the manager's earnings relative to his achievement on the pitch.CloakedGooner wrote:The managers wage is irrelevant. He gets paid the same as any great manager would at any club. What do you think a more reasonable wage should be? Would the decrease that you propose in his wage give us enough funds to buy world class players?armchair wrote:Oh sweet jesus.
After Wenger comes out with his disgraceful attempt at justifying Arsenals scandalous ticket prices while picking up an obscene 8 million pa and still paying Sanogo 30,000pw his apologists resort to the........
"We cant compete with the money clubs" nonsense yet again
It really is a complete waste of time.
But then he was happy to demand ridiculous wages for players like Almunia, Bendtner, Denilson, to keep renewing Diaby's contract, to pay big wages to Chamakh and not play him, to spend wages on Park and Bischoff who were ghosts at the club, to pay Walcott more and more money without achieving anything and then talk about restricted spending. I'm not talking about spending £60 or £70 million but the extra £250,000 to have got Alonso or the money to activate the clause for Mata or have a go for Eden Hazard. He was happy to sit there and demand huge money for wages for players on his 'socialist wage structure' which suited him but when it came to actually spending money on players which might have competed for the title or challenged him, he suddenly had problems with money. To compare us to Leeds or Rangers is mad. We had cash reserves from years of Chumps League football and a big fan base. With better players, we would have still qualified for the competition, got further and therefore received more money. Leeds had one season and then spent way too much against no security. Rangers are in a shit football structure and Mickey Mouse. There was no way in the world that the biggest club in the biggest city in Europe would have gone the same way. We would only have got better. But, Wanker would have had to deal with expectations and demands and he doesn't like that and it wouldn't have suited his selfish, ego-fuelled quest.CloakedGooner wrote:But if he had demanded all kinds of funds, then it could have caused catastrophic consequences given our financial situation at the . With the stadium to pay off, it would have been ridiculous to upset the barrel. He gave us stability at a time we needed that more than anything. Had we been reckless, we could have had a huge fall like Leeds or Rangers who chased the dream without having the money to do so. I firmly believe his priority at the time was to make sure the club survive the huge financial restraints of paying back the stadium as well as keeping chavs etc within our grasp. That was more important at the time than chasing glory, and thank goodness he made the right callPerryashburtongroves wrote:I can't and never have understood all this: "can't compete with oil money" bollocks. If Wanker had even one ounce of ambition and backbone, he would have been in to the board demanding money for players. If he didn't do that, he's been negligent and lazy. If money was there and he didn't use it, he's been negligent, arrogant and guilty of gross misconduct. His position at the club has been untouchable since about 1997 and he could have used his power for good. If he had threaten to walk away without money to spend, he would have got the money, it would have been found. If he wanted players, he would have got them. Instead, he chose to use us as a pawn in his own egotistical, narcissistic, sociopathic plan. In the lower leagues, you often hear of managers putting their own money in for players or to cover wages for a player they want. I remember years ago that Brian Little at Hull was paying for part of his own players wages and petrol because needed to keep hold of them. Wanker is on £7.5m a year, £7.5m and for the last 12 years, this man has done nothing but take, take, take from the club. He has taken for his own selfish ends, used us like a personal toy and now treats the fans like ungrateful peasants who should bow down and appreciate his own God complex.
My utter disgust for this man is total. He is a fraud, a charlatan, a modern day, Marie Antoinette, snake oil salesman. He is the selfish, arrogant face of 21st Century, unaccountable professional football.
He also actually used the Leeds example! AKB bingoarmchair wrote:We cant compete
Be careful what you wish for
We could end up like Leeds or Rangers
Jesus Christ listen to yourselves. Stop with the nonsense ffs.
I don't think anybody expected him to spend money we didn't have - to put us dangerously in the red, whilst funding the stadium.CloakedGooner wrote:But if he had demanded all kinds of funds, then it could have caused catastrophic consequences given our financial situation at the time. With the stadium to pay off, it would have been ridiculous to upset the barrel. He gave us stability at a time we needed that more than anything. Had we been reckless, we could have had a huge fall like Leeds or Rangers who chased the dream without having the money to do so. I firmly believe his priority at the time was to make sure the club survive the huge financial restraints of paying back the stadium as well as keeping chavs etc within our grasp. That was more important at the time than chasing glory, and thank goodness he made the right callPerryashburtongroves wrote:I can't and never have understood all this: "can't compete with oil money" bollocks. If Wanker had even one ounce of ambition and backbone, he would have been in to the board demanding money for players. If he didn't do that, he's been negligent and lazy. If money was there and he didn't use it, he's been negligent, arrogant and guilty of gross misconduct. His position at the club has been untouchable since about 1997 and he could have used his power for good. If he had threaten to walk away without money to spend, he would have got the money, it would have been found. If he wanted players, he would have got them. Instead, he chose to use us as a pawn in his own egotistical, narcissistic, sociopathic plan. In the lower leagues, you often hear of managers putting their own money in for players or to cover wages for a player they want. I remember years ago that Brian Little at Hull was paying for part of his own players wages and petrol because needed to keep hold of them. Wanker is on £7.5m a year, £7.5m and for the last 12 years, this man has done nothing but take, take, take from the club. He has taken for his own selfish ends, used us like a personal toy and now treats the fans like ungrateful peasants who should bow down and appreciate his own God complex.
My utter disgust for this man is total. He is a fraud, a charlatan, a modern day, Marie Antoinette, snake oil salesman. He is the selfish, arrogant face of 21st Century, unaccountable professional football.
(£23m profit)
Success on the pitch is NOT a requirement in a football club that's just there to make money? Laughing a fucking lot here.TeeCee wrote:You don't give a manager wage rises/new contracts for failure. But of course if you see finishing 4th and qualifying for the CL money train as success then you reward it.......and that's where we are, a manager who sees 4th place a success and is equal to a trophy and an owner who is more interested in his next piece of real estate and earning more money to pay for it than actual success with his sporting franchises (and let's face it, they are all pretty shit apart from Arsenal)!!
Arsenal FC are a club set up to make money, success on the pitch is NOT a requirement, it's a bonus.
so Fuck me that's idiotic.Indeed!!SteveO 35 wrote:Where's my old mate Steve-I ??
See mate.....we did tell them there was only one didn't we
Ikechukwu1 wrote:I really don't want to do this but it has to be done just to point out what a fraud Wenker is and what a shame the "austerity years" were. Shall we talk about Pochettino? No?
A few facts:
1. Spuds are building a new stadium
2. Pochettino hasn't spent a penny. In actual fact, he's the only manager on the top 3 European leagues to have made a transfer profit over the past 2 years
3. The players are not fully his still. He was ruthless and got rid of overpaid shite that wouldn't follow tactical instructions. See Adebarndoor, see Stambouli, Dawson, Assou-Ekoto their very own Eboue etc...he didn't give them bumper pay deals for some reason?
4. He's actually got a proper English core going and their wages are peanuts. Kane/Alli/Dier
5. He is outperforming Wenker on virtually every single metric: better defence check. Better midfield, check. Better strike force check. Let's also remember he isn't even on half Lord A-hole's wages!
6. Their wage bill is half of ours, and less than ours was when we moved stadiums. Numbers are verifiable.
If Pochettino somehow manages to get that average ragtag bunch to win the PL in only his second season at a new club that's saving pennies for a stadium move and with a team that ain't his, Lord Fuckstick should be chased out of town. There will be absolutely no coming back from that.
AKBs take note - and remember we still need to visit the Shite hole
