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skipper wrote:Interesting to see that quite few on here are in favour of Sharia law
What? Perhaps you can explain the central points of Sharia Law?
Quite few of you would happily have kids shot dead for nicking a pair of fucking trainers.
Yeah, that's right quite a few people did say that . And that's your insight into Sharia Law. Just as well you are not consoling the two brothers who’s store (and lively hood) have just gone up in flames in Croydon because of those harmless little terrors. Your reference to 'nicking a pair of fucking trainers' shows how dismissive you are of the matter.
no police cant do anything, cos wanky no morals lawyers will act on behalf of the scum who are rioting if the police even try to suppress them with force. they guy was shot, was by all media reports a scummy drug dealer.
look at the example of that guy who died when he was pushed over in the protests earlier this year, police arnt allowed to do there job. that case sums up what this country has become
simple solution to these tottenham rioters, if you dont like it here if f off (even though these riots are supposedly about other issues not deprivation etc)
[quote="olgitgooner"]The law is way too soft in this country.
Remember back to the bad old days in New York? Mayor Guilliano(?) introduced a policy of Zero Tollerance. Jailed every fucker found guilty of serious crime. No second chances. No suspended sentences. Scum taken off the streets. Less crime. Less victims. It worked. New York is now far safer than London.
It's what we need here.[/quote
Rudy Giuliani's administration, administered by Bill Bratton, comissioner of police. Absolutely fantastic, the 'No Broken Windows' policy, targeted graffiti, fare-dodging on the subway, etc.
safcftm wrote:Tottenham burned to the ground, police report 50p worth of damage
Seriously though, its worth waiting until all the facts of the incident are known before commenting too much, but it sounds like a bloke who was trouble has been killed and, tbh, regardless of whether the police are in the right or in the wrong in this incident, I would tend to say that if you play with fire then you get burned. He's going around with a gun- that would suggest to me that he would be prepared to shoot someone if necessary so I struggle to have much (any) sympathy when he is killed himself, if it saves an innocent person from losing a loved one who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time then fine as far as I'm concerned.
There is a lot of scum in this country, there is a growing underclass and it needs to be stamped out. Less of this shite about human rights and such like, if you want to go around acting "gangster" carrying knives and guns and generally posing like Nile fucking Ranger then the police should be taking it upon themselves to knock you into shape. As mentioned earlier in the thread, where are the riots when a young mother or kid is killed by one of these "hard men"?
Its about time people stood up for the country and sorted half of these fuckers out. Oh aye, and scrap benefits for anyone unemployed for over a year, give them vouchers instead that can only be used for certain types of food, if they cant be arsed to work, make them live like a 5 year old kid since they're about as much fucking use
skipper wrote:Interesting to see that quite few on here are in favour of Sharia law
What? Perhaps you can explain the central points of Sharia Law?
Quite few of you would happily have kids shot dead for nicking a pair of fucking trainers.
Yeah, that's right quite a few people did say that . And that's your insight into Sharia Law. Just as well you are not consoling the two brothers who’s store (and lively hood) have just gone up in flames in Croydon because of those harmless little terrors. Your reference to 'nicking a pair of fucking trainers' shows how dismissive you are of the matter.
You will find in a due time that it's Anarchists who are starting those fires.
the playing mantis wrote:no police cant do anything, cos wanky no morals lawyers will act on behalf of the scum who are rioting if the police even try to suppress them with force. they guy was shot, was by all media reports a scummy drug dealer.
look at the example of that guy who died when he was pushed over in the protests earlier this year, police arnt allowed to do there job. that case sums up what this country has become
simple solution to these tottenham rioters, if you dont like it here if f off (even though these riots are supposedly about other issues not deprivation etc)
Spot on mate.
Like I said, political correctness and ridiculous rights for people who deserve fuck all.
Policeman kicks the shit out of some scumbag who deserves everything he gets, all of a sudden he's lost his job. It's a joke. The government are weak and as a result the area where I grew up is being burnt to the ground and businesses which have been worked for are being destroyed.
the playing mantis wrote:no police cant do anything, cos wanky no morals lawyers will act on behalf of the scum who are rioting if the police even try to suppress them with force. they guy was shot, was by all media reports a scummy drug dealer.
look at the example of that guy who died when he was pushed over in the protests earlier this year, police arnt allowed to do there job. that case sums up what this country has become
simple solution to these tottenham rioters, if you dont like it here if f off (even though these riots are supposedly about other issues not deprivation etc)
Spot on mate.
Like I said, political correctness and ridiculous rights for people who deserve fuck all.
Policeman kicks the shit out of some scumbag who deserves everything he gets, all of a sudden he's lost his job. It's a joke. The government are weak and as a result the area where I grew up is being burnt to the ground and businesses which have been worked for are being destroyed.
Lives are being destroyed.
Please see my post on the previous page. And don't agree with playingmantis who is an idiot and has no idea what he's talking about.
the playing mantis wrote:no police cant do anything, cos wanky no morals lawyers will act on behalf of the scum who are rioting if the police even try to suppress them with force. they guy was shot, was by all media reports a scummy drug dealer.
look at the example of that guy who died when he was pushed over in the protests earlier this year, police arnt allowed to do there job. that case sums up what this country has become
simple solution to these tottenham rioters, if you dont like it here if f off (even though these riots are supposedly about other issues not deprivation etc)
Spot on mate.
Like I said, political correctness and ridiculous rights for people who deserve fuck all.
Policeman kicks the shit out of some scumbag who deserves everything he gets, all of a sudden he's lost his job. It's a joke. The government are weak and as a result the area where I grew up is being burnt to the ground and businesses which have been worked for are being destroyed.
Lives are being destroyed.
Please see my post on the previous page. And don't agree with playingmantis who is an idiot and has no idea what he's talking about.
I read your previous post and I disagree.
Sure the police are outnumbered, I appreciate that. If they're outnumbered, why aren't we bringing in the army to make up the numbers?
In addition, how is it that the police are standing there to hold a secure zone instead of proactively trying to stop these riots.
it's a wonder nobody has been killed, and meanwhile the government sits there doing nothing whilst this spirals out of control.
Bring in the rubber bullets and the watercannons. Oh no, we can't do that because there would be public outrage that these poor little souls have been hurt a little bit.
and you do mr trainee big shot lawyer?? what uni you at then, good one i bet??? please explain where i am wrong at why i dont know what im talking about.
MM99 wrote:
Secondly, it's not 'human rights' preventing the police from hitting yobs that are getting mouthy. It's sheer numbers and being outnumbered that leads to the fact that the police can't break their lines by trying to attack them.
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This.
And it's been like that for years and years, 10 of them to 1 copper, playing little Police & Thieves games, both sides holding fragile truce, both in some way profiting from it. Now reality is beginning to bite. Nobody knew just how many "mindless thugs" there is all over country. Now we know.
And others, like Anarchists, have jumped on a bandwagon. There just isn't enough coppers available. Or poor firefighters. So next time they go on on strike over pay conditions do not piss all over them.
Broken Brittain Bites Back, like it or not, it's fucking happening. And it's only monday.
As for the cause of all this, in my opinion there are youths who wants to get respect/fear amongst their peers by being seen as bold. So going to loot helps that.
In turn they want to rep their areas, to make a name for their Firm or Crew.
In that sense it is very similar to people who fight for football teams.
We live in a very materialistic society, where education standards are lower than they should be, and too many homes have a lack of a strong role model.
It is a very sad week for the country.
But in amongst the horror, can I post this 20 second clip from Hackney?
Look at the graffiti on the wall behind the woman (who speaks what most people think) and wonder just what Alex Song and Samuel Eto'o have done?
the playing mantis wrote:and you do mr trainee big shot lawyer?? what uni you at then, good one i bet??? please explain where i am wrong at why i dont know what im talking about.
I reckon this guy was the one stealing toilet paper from Wimpy.