Montpellier v Arsenal match thread

[clockender1]

Don't know about box-to-box, Arteta doesn't seem to have the pace and intensity to play the role (Diaby is our box-to-box CM). You say we need a controller, Arteta is that for me. He's more Alonso than Gerrard.

i think Arteta rotates the box to box duties with Coq or Diaby. I agree he doesn't have the stamina. Jack should be our box to box.

Arteta is like Santi - both Spanish Artisans in the middle.

[1989]

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I see your point my friend, but am afraid that Wenger's 'eye for talent' disappeared a long, long time ago.
I am not talking about the players so much that Wenger signs as flops - it is more the quality of players that he allowed to let the club miss out on.

like Mata for 25 million quid, who scored one goal less than Walcott last year, yes ?

And the reason we didn't sign Benzema for 30million quid in 2009 was that we had RvP who cost us 3...

Also wouldn't signing Benzema have meant "pumping money into French football"?

[mcdowell42]

Well we won 6-1 so ultimately Wenger was proven correct. I also agree with why he did it. Take him out of the firing line for a time and the pressure comes off a little. Must remember Henry was a sub for an awful lot of his first few Arsenal games and he was in a far mroe advanced stage than Giroud.

Patience.

'Patience'? Is 8 years trophyless not enough patrience? Or will you tell me that 'real fans have patience'!
Why is is that the apologists ALWAYS trot up that defunct Henry line? I'll just remind you, because you seem to not be getting it: Thierry Henry was the TOP SCORER FOR THE WORLD CHAMPIONS AT THE AGE OF 20. That is correct, he won the World Cup, top scorer for his country despite not playing up top as main number 9 and got a big money move to the mighty Juventus that didn't work out. So everyone knew Henry had it in his locker.
Bergkamp same, the same man who was a Dutch international and had smashed it in Europe with Ajax, earning a big money move to Inter. That did not work out.

Everyone already Knew how good they were, it was a matter of coaxing it out of them.

Giroud has NO pedigree. Nothing. Top scorer for Montpellier in Ligue 1?

Oh and Wenger was 'right' to drop a guy who needed maximum confidence and badly needs a goal in a piss easy game against a shambolic team, at home? Ok fine I can accept that.

Therefore having seen that Arsenal's best attacking performance all season has come in a game where Giroud had almost no involvement, is it therefore fair to infer that Giroud weakens Arsenal's attacking game more than he contributes?

Because Arsenal have scored a total of 4 goals in all games Giroud has started in (Giroud scored none of these of course but does have 1 assist)...and have scored 6 goals in games Giroud has not started.

Or will your argument change?

P.S: Augie. Please mate, see what I said. BEFORE Giroud had even kicked a ball for Arsenal, I said that I watched him several times at Montpellier, and that he is shit and not good enough for Arsenal. Wish ppl would stop claiming this is on the basis of a few games for Arsenal. It isn't. It's on the basis of a year at Montpellier.
What I am finding hilarious though, is those who called Giroud 'class' on here (I will go dig out the quotes) despite having never seen him kicked a ball. ASpparently, it's ok to do that as it makes you a 'real fan' (whatever that is and whoever arbiters that definition)...

I seem to recall you telling us that you told us all on here last year in PRE-SEASON that gervinhio was shit yet you didnt join the forum till the season had actually started 1 other thing on another thread richpye made some interesting points to counter some of your ramblings i noticed you havent responded

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Sorry i made a mistake you did reply

Arsene is not at fault.
I blame Citeh and Chelski.
FFP will solve the Syrian conflict and famine

Rich pyes post is on page 7 of that thread seeing as you seem to be ignoring it, since he handed you your arse up on a plate

[mcdowell42]

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I see your point my friend, but am afraid that Wenger's 'eye for talent' disappeared a long, long time ago.
I am not talking about the players so much that Wenger signs as flops - it is more the quality of players that he allowed to let the club miss out on.

like Mata for 25 million quid, who scored one goal less than Walcott last year, yes ?

And the reason we didn't sign Benzema for 30million quid in 2009 was that we had RvP who cost us 3...

Mata has he played for chelsea this season or is he out injured

[clockender1]

Mata has he played for chelsea this season or is he out injured

benched mate.

they spunked another 60 mill on Oscar and Hazard to fill the gap.

as I said, Mata = Spanish walcott....

[Babatunde]

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I see your point my friend, but am afraid that Wenger's 'eye for talent' disappeared a long, long time ago.
I am not talking about the players so much that Wenger signs as flops - it is more the quality of players that he allowed to let the club miss out on.

like Mata for 25 million quid, who scored one goal less than Walcott last year, yes ?

And the reason we didn't sign Benzema for 30million quid in 2009 was that we had RvP who cost us 3...

Aaah yes the stat department

So what's your point? That Theo is better than Mata? Nope.
What else then? Anyone can pull imbecile stats like that. For instance, Cazorla scored less league goals last season than Michu of Swansea. Again what's your bloody point?
Mata is far, far superior to Walcott.
When it looked like Mata was signing for us, it was all how good he is.
Now he's being compared unfavourably to Walcott

It's so idiotic it doesn't merit a response.
You claim we didn't need Benzena since we had RVP. Again, indicative of the narrow small mindedness that pervades so many: of course two obvious points would be to ask whether both couldn't have played together, seeing as RVP cost a pittance, and the other is to ask where RVP is now.

So many comical excuses and imbecile stats.
Here's another stat for you that kind of renders every point you made null and void:
last season Alex Song had more assists than Mezut Ozil, Xabi Alonso's and Andres Iniesta.
Any fool can cite intangible bollocks to sustain a nonsensical point of view. Oh look, you just have!


(Les Ferdinand scored more league goals than Bergkamp, suppose it makes him better too )

[Babatunde]

Mata has he played for chelsea this season or is he out injured

benched mate.

they spunked another 60 mill on Oscar and Hazard to fill the gap.

as I said, Mata = Spanish walcott....

Not quite. If Mata is the Spanish Walcott, does that make Cazorla the Spanish Stewie Downing?
I mean after all, Cazorla is behind Mata in the pecking order for Spain right? Just watch the Euros...oh wait I forgot, Cazorla is as good as Roberto Baggio isn't he? Or perhaps that Spain manager didn't know what he was doing and Wenger with all that stuff he's won recently, does right!

LOL

PS: the other difference would also be that CL trophy Mata has tucked away somewhere at home.
To be the Spanish Walcott he'd probably need a Blue Peter badge for winning the 100 metres at BBC studios.

[Gunnersaurus]

Didn't Cazorla play in more games than Mata at the Euros?

Sure Mata only came on in the final and scored while Cazorla came on in a few games.

Baba the Expert of European Football, can you confirm those please????

[Babatunde]

Mata has he played for chelsea this season or is he out injured

benched mate.

they spunked another 60 mill on Oscar and Hazard to fill the gap.

as I said, Mata = Spanish walcott....

That's the beauty of crass stupidity. Usually takes no time to expose it in its full glory

[Babatunde]

Didn't Cazorla play in more games than Mata at the Euros?

Sure Mata only came on in the final and scored while Cazorla came on in a few games.

Baba the Expert of European Football, can you confirm those please????

No chance pal. Cazorla saw no action at all at the Euros mate.

[Henry Norris 1913]

Mata has he played for chelsea this season or is he out injured

benched mate.

they spunked another 60 mill on Oscar and Hazard to fill the gap.

as I said, Mata = Spanish walcott....

That's the beauty of crass stupidity. Usually takes no time to expose it in its full glory

oh I so agree with this

[mcdowell42]

Mata has he played for chelsea this season or is he out injured

benched mate.

they spunked another 60 mill on Oscar and Hazard to fill the gap.

as I said, Mata = Spanish walcott....

That's the beauty of crass stupidity. Usually takes no time to expose it in its full glory

oh I so agree with this

kalou

[Gunnersaurus]

Didn't Cazorla play in more games than Mata at the Euros?

Sure Mata only came on in the final and scored while Cazorla came on in a few games.

Baba the Expert of European Football, can you confirm those please????

No chance pal. Cazorla saw no action at all at the Euros mate.

You sure? I'm certain he came on as sub in the group games.

[mcdowell42]

Didn't Cazorla play in more games than Mata at the Euros?

Sure Mata only came on in the final and scored while Cazorla came on in a few games.

Baba the Expert of European Football, can you confirm those please????

No chance pal. Cazorla saw no action at all at the Euros mate.

You sure? I'm certain he came on as sub in the group games.

He made 2 appearances albeit only 16 mins


http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=201 ... index.html

[Gunnersaurus]

Just looked it up, came on twice to Mata's once, 16mins to 3mins, doesn't prove anything but shows he's not behind him in the pecking order so to speak.