THE WENGER THREAD

[MrT]

David Seaman ''He's the perfect man for the job''

Fuck right off. How many more ex players can you lose respect for?

[Sean]

All drinks will be on me. Every single one. It will be a day of liberation for every Gooner and we can even tear down that fucking statue of him, Saddam Hussein in Baghdad style!

Maybe we can use the tears of sadness from Kiwomya, BDB and LaughingGooner, and make a pint of "spirit"
To our dearly-departed AKB brethren. I tell you what once Wenker is gone, the next step has to be a complete de-Wenkerification of the club, something I feel Gazidis would be only too happy to do. Too many stories doing the rounds that he and Wenker don't speak and get the impression Gazidis would love to hand him his P45. He's fed up having his name dragged into this shite and I can see why.
Anyone ever seen that ridiculous wall in Club Level? A wall dedicated to "Wenger's Firsts@. It's honestly absolutely pathetic.

Maybe they could change the wall with alternative Wenker firsts like...you know...
First Arsenal manager to lose 8-2....
First Arsenal manager to lose 6-0, 5-1, 6-3 on same season...
First Arsenal manager to spend 18 years in CL without winning it...
First Arsenal manager to lose a 4-goal lead...

Etc etc etc

Indeed! We need to erase his cult of personality (as Khrushchev tried to do after Stalin). I also get the impression that Gazidis is secretly pissed off with TOF and is trying to do as much of his job as possible in the tiny areas that TOF doesn't control. Gazidis knows that TOF is unsackable and despite technically having the power to do it, he knows he would never be allowed to do it. So he gets on with doing the sponsorship deals, bullshitting the media and fans, as well as spinning TOF's rising amount of failures as successes.

Does anyone have a photo of this ridiculous propaganda wall in club level? Does it look anything like this? Like you say, he has also presided over many humiliating firsts for The Arsenal as well

David Seaman ''He's the perfect man for the job''

Fuck right off. How many more ex players can you lose respect for?

It's disappointing to hear that from my favourite player

[Perryashburtongroves]

David Seaman ''He's the perfect man for the job''

Fuck right off. How many more ex players can you lose respect for?

Why in fuck's name would he say that? What a stupid fucking thing to say? I'll tell you who the perfect man for the job is, anyone but fucking Wanker. Comments like this really don't fucking help.

[Rosie_titters]

The board will never get rid of Wenger, because 1 he makes them money and 2, a new manager would come in and it wouldn't take them long to see how shite most of the squad is.

The board would have to spend £100m + to get this current team up to PL and CL status.

At the moment the team are playing like when Mourinho was at Chelsea. Walking around most of the time and can't be arsed. think even the players have given up on him

[northbank123]

David Seaman ''He's the perfect man for the job''

Fuck right off. How many more ex players can you lose respect for?

Why in fuck's name would he say that? What a stupid fucking thing to say? I'll tell you who the perfect man for the job is, anyone but fucking Wanker. Comments like this really don't fucking help.

I don't even think it's a "jobs for the boys" thing with these ex-players. Adams is often the same and he hardly milks a living out of the club.

These players have a perception of Wenger as the God that he was when he first came right up until they retired, all around the time of the Invincibles. They see the bloke coming out and saying the same things, trotting out the same "philosophies" and "beliefs" as when they were there and they're convinced that he hasn't changed. Which is actually the truth, he hasn't changed whilst football has changed drastically.

The reality is they can explain away our constant failures on anything other than Wenger, but none of these great players would have stuck around in this shower of shit.

[Offside]

The Saddam statue

Tbh I found it very strange, bordering on hubris, for the club to create a bronze bust of Wenger WHEN HE WAS STILL IN THE BLOODY JOB. Ridiculous in the extreme. It should have waited until after he retired. However, Wenger's legacy looks very different now than it did when the bust was created.

[augie]

Wenger's PR man is finally turning

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ue-7485081

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... me-7489163

Call that turning mate? Please read the proviso in that first headline again please:

"If Wenker does not win the league this year or next"



Sorry but hold on a minute. Isn't that just another way of saying "give him another summer to fuck things up?"
What would be different next year? .

Absolutely agree with that - not alone is cross advocating another season, but he also has the cheek to suggest that arsene wenger raised our expectations this season.......how and when did that happen then ? Back last summer when he didn't feel the need to sign a single outfield player ? Maybe he raised our expectations when we were getting bummed by two European minnows back in sept/October ? Or maybe it was in January when he felt that the player that would inspire the team and turn us into league winners again, was an Egyptian camel farmer who was plying his trade in a 3rd rate European league Wenker didn't raise expectations this season.......he actually lowered them to the level of a small mid table club, because any knowledgeable Gooner could tell you where the team and squad were weak

John cross is a w*nker who will be still bumming wenger when he is in his coffin - the only reason that he is SLIGHTLY criticising wenger is because he can see now that the tide has turned against the senile old cu.nt and it doesn't make sense for him (cross) to alienate his readers

[Ikechukwu1]

David Seaman ''He's the perfect man for the job''

Fuck right off. How many more ex players can you lose respect for?

He and Bob Wilson will both join Arseblogger, Untold Arsenal and all the other AKBs when the purge begins

[BFG4]

David Seaman ''He's the perfect man for the job''

Fuck right off. How many more ex players can you lose respect for?

There is a group of ex players rolled out by the club to portray the pro-Wenger viewpoint. People like Keown, Dixon etc are all there to tell us we are all wrong for wanting this fraud gone. The worse of all has to be Henry, who justifies his 5M a year on sky by giving generalised criticisms of the club, but says nothing about the manger himself.

[Rob Admin]

Thanks to everyone for the past 3 pages of posts, I've been genuinely laughing out loud, especially the statue post.

Like watching a loved one pass by, the pain and suffering will soon be over folks and we can get back to supporting the greatest football team, i'm sure it will be soon

[Wilson]

The worst thing about Wenger is his desire to 'prove the critics wrong'.

The critics say Almunia is sh.., so Wenger plays him for a full three seasons before giving up and listening to the critics.

The critics this year said Arsenal need to sign a striker, holding player and defender, so Wenger tried to prove them wrong. However, Giroud has gone 10 games without a goal. Couqelin hasnt been the same since his injury and we are struggling big time in the holding role, and between Mertesacker and Gabriel, they cant sort themselves out and provide good foil to Kosicleny.

If we did sign three top players in those positions, we wouldn't be in the mess and would likely be cruising to the title.

So in addition to poor results, Wenger needs the sack because he is using his position as manager, to prove a point, as opposed to doing everything possible to ensure success at Arsenal. There is a clear conflict of interest at play here, between Wenger's own vanity and ego, and his position as manager. If you were a banker, but had a moral objection to profit, there is a big problem. So with Wenger having a moral objection to large scale investment, how can he manage a club with the highest cash reserves in world football? That money in the bank is what was needed to get us to the top, yet Wenger didnt touch it because it conflicted with his own ego and desire to prove the critics wrong - thats a scandal. We literally will miss a league title, because Wenger was on a rogue personal mission to prove his critics wrong.

Forget his lack of tactical nous and poor management for a second, he should be sacked all together for his vanity, ego, arrogance, dismissive attitude to the fans, selfishness, his using his position as manager inappropriately, and his negligent treason. Yeah thats right, this personal mission of Wenger's might pave the way for Spurs to win the title - thats treason, as its a kind of self-sabotage that has enabled Tottenham to win at our expense.

I can forsee the Emirates being ripped apart one home game.

[Blade]

In terms of players he developed from a young age I can only think of Anelka [1998].
It’s alarming how many with a modicum of potential have fallen by the way
side or worst -abandoned.Shocking how Ramsey,JW,Alex,Gibbs,Gnarby,Walcott have re-gressed.And notice how he is trying his best to do same to Akpom.

[Blade]

Soon we will be fed:
Win,lose or draw its entertainment and you guys are customers -like pop concert.
Don't get so emotional. De-couple yourself -it's only a game.
Our principals are correct.
Winning isn't everything.
The club doesn't belong to the fans, it's a Plc.
I am not stubborn -my way is morally correct.

[Wilson]

In terms of players he developed from a young age I can only think of Anelka [1998].
It’s alarming how many with a modicum of potential have fallen by the way
side or worst -abandoned.Shocking how Ramsey,JW,Alex,Gibbs,Gnarby,Walcott have re-gressed.And notice how he is trying his best to do same to Akpom.

Spot on.

Our best players are the two best players brought in for big money in Sanchez and Ozil. Yet he still clings to the notion that spending big isnt necessary when our best players were brought in for massive fees.

Everything he says can be so easily picked apart.

[xisstential]

The worst thing about Wenger is his desire to 'prove the critics wrong'.

The critics say Almunia is sh.., so Wenger plays him for a full three seasons before giving up and listening to the critics.

The critics this year said Arsenal need to sign a striker, holding player and defender, so Wenger tried to prove them wrong. However, Giroud has gone 10 games without a goal. Couqelin hasnt been the same since his injury and we are struggling big time in the holding role, and between Mertesacker and Gabriel, they cant sort themselves out and provide good foil to Kosicleny.

If we did sign three top players in those positions, we wouldn't be in the mess and would likely be cruising to the title.

So in addition to poor results, Wenger needs the sack because he is using his position as manager, to prove a point, as opposed to doing everything possible to ensure success at Arsenal. There is a clear conflict of interest at play here, between Wenger's own vanity and ego, and his position as manager. If you were a banker, but had a moral objection to profit, there is a big problem. So with Wenger having a moral objection to large scale investment, how can he manage a club with the highest cash reserves in world football? That money in the bank is what was needed to get us to the top, yet Wenger didnt touch it because it conflicted with his own ego and desire to prove the critics wrong - thats a scandal. We literally will miss a league title, because Wenger was on a rogue personal mission to prove his critics wrong.

Forget his lack of tactical nous and poor management for a second, he should be sacked all together for his vanity, ego, arrogance, dismissive attitude to the fans, selfishness, his using his position as manager inappropriately, and his negligent treason. Yeah thats right, this personal mission of Wenger's might pave the way for Spurs to win the title - thats treason, as its a kind of self-sabotage that has enabled Tottenham to win at our expense.

I can forsee the Emirates being ripped apart one home game.

Spot on, being saying that for ages. My very first post on here was when Gary Neville was still a pundit and he said after one of our performances exactly where we needed to strengthen. That is like a death blow, Wengers lip curls in a sneer, no lowly pundit is going to tell him how to manage, what to do...... He must know what we need but if somebody points it out to him before he says it he won't do it, because it will look like he's taking instructions, being told how to manage. It is absolutely outrageous that he can use OUR massive football club for his own personal gain... to prove a point. I absolutely guarantee you if you had to mention to him now what Neville said we needed back in October, he would sneer and say "tell me how Neville is doing at Valencia". The man really is a prick.