THE WENGER THREAD

[Redarmy]

All drinks will be on me. Every single one. It will be a day of liberation for every Gooner and we can even tear down that fucking statue of him, Saddam Hussein in Baghdad style!

Maybe we can use the tears of sadness from Kiwomya, BDB and LaughingGooner, and make a pint of "spirit"
To our dearly-departed AKB brethren. I tell you what once Wenker is gone, the next step has to be a complete de-Wenkerification of the club, something I feel Gazidis would be only too happy to do. Too many stories doing the rounds that he and Wenker don't speak and get the impression Gazidis would love to hand him his P45. He's fed up having his name dragged into this shite and I can see why.
Anyone ever seen that ridiculous wall in Club Level? A wall dedicated to "Wenger's Firsts@. It's honestly absolutely pathetic.

Maybe they could change the wall with alternative Wenker firsts like...you know...
First Arsenal manager to lose 8-2....
First Arsenal manager to lose 6-0, 5-1, 6-3 on same season...
First Arsenal manager to spend 18 years in CL without winning it...
First Arsenal manager to lose a 4-goal lead...

Etc etc etc

Indeed! We need to erase his cult of personality (as Khrushchev tried to do after Stalin). I also get the impression that Gazidis is secretly pissed off with TOF and is trying to do as much of his job as possible in the tiny areas that TOF doesn't control. Gazidis knows that TOF is unsackable and despite technically having the power to do it, he knows he would never be allowed to do it. So he gets on with doing the sponsorship deals, bullshitting the media and fans, as well as spinning TOF's rising amount of failures as successes.

Does anyone have a photo of this ridiculous propaganda wall in club level? Does it look anything like this? Like you say, he has also presided over many humiliating firsts for The Arsenal as well

David Seaman ''He's the perfect man for the job''

Fuck right off. How many more ex players can you lose respect for?

It's disappointing to hear that from my favourite player

Can you refrain from the schoolboy history references please...find it annoying....general sentiment of post agreed though

[Redarmy]

All drinks will be on me. Every single one. It will be a day of liberation for every Gooner and we can even tear down that fucking statue of him, Saddam Hussein in Baghdad style!

Maybe we can use the tears of sadness from Kiwomya, BDB and LaughingGooner, and make a pint of "spirit"
To our dearly-departed AKB brethren. I tell you what once Wenker is gone, the next step has to be a complete de-Wenkerification of the club, something I feel Gazidis would be only too happy to do. Too many stories doing the rounds that he and Wenker don't speak and get the impression Gazidis would love to hand him his P45. He's fed up having his name dragged into this shite and I can see why.
Anyone ever seen that ridiculous wall in Club Level? A wall dedicated to "Wenger's Firsts@. It's honestly absolutely pathetic.

Maybe they could change the wall with alternative Wenker firsts like...you know...
First Arsenal manager to lose 8-2....
First Arsenal manager to lose 6-0, 5-1, 6-3 on same season...
First Arsenal manager to spend 18 years in CL without winning it...
First Arsenal manager to lose a 4-goal lead...

Etc etc etc

Indeed! We need to erase his cult of personality (as Khrushchev tried to do after Stalin). I also get the impression that Gazidis is secretly pissed off with TOF and is trying to do as much of his job as possible in the tiny areas that TOF doesn't control. Gazidis knows that TOF is unsackable and despite technically having the power to do it, he knows he would never be allowed to do it. So he gets on with doing the sponsorship deals, bullshitting the media and fans, as well as spinning TOF's rising amount of failures as successes.

Can you refrain from the schoolboy history references please...find it annoying....general sentiment of post agreed though

[augie]

Was talking to the wife's cousin last night and he told me that he was travelling in a London cab a few weeks ago when the driver (a shammer) told him that one of the AFC board was in his cab recently on his way to a fans Q & A (assume it was friar ?). Anyway he told the wife's cousin that it costs £7m per season to run the academy and that he (don't know if it was the full board) is questioning the viability/business sense of running it. He claims that it would make more sense to go out and buy young players instead of pumping £7m into an academy that isn't producing anywhere near enough players to justify the cost

Standing back and looking at it from a detatched perspective I can certainly see his point of view, but as a Gooner of some 40 years I look back at real pride at some of the players the club has produced over the years (TA6, chippy brady, merse, rocky etc) and I would be gutted if we stopped trying to develop our own Of course it also has to be said that if you stop the academy, then you sure as shit better have a manager that is actually winning to spend money buying players

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

David Seaman ''He's the perfect man for the job''

Fuck right off. How many more ex players can you lose respect for?

Why in fuck's name would he say that? What a stupid fucking thing to say? I'll tell you who the perfect man for the job is, anyone but fucking Wanker. Comments like this really don't fucking help.

During my stadium tour just before Christmas Perry Groves basically called wenger Arsenal like he was the second coming or something

Maybe time to change your moniker

[Theoperator]

In terms of players he developed from a young age I can only think of Anelka [1998].
It’s alarming how many with a modicum of potential have fallen by the way
side or worst -abandoned.Shocking how Ramsey,JW,Alex,Gibbs,Gnarby,Walcott have re-gressed.And notice how he is trying his best to do same to Akpom.

Yup and Chambers too Mind loaning Gnabry to Pulis wasnt the brightest thing to do either. Interesting that Afobe (Who was shit at Wolves ) is continuing his right place right time and workrate goal per 2nd game with Bounemouth. Early days, but I suspect he was v lucky to escape.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Do fuck off you two we don't need a mod only thread at the top.

Thank you and jog on

[DB10GOONER]

Do fuck off you two we don't need a mod only thread at the top.

Thank you and jog on

Looks like augie has a buddy that hates locked threads he can't post on.

[DB10GOONER]

Wenger's PR man is finally turning

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ue-7485081

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... me-7489163

Call that turning mate? Please read the proviso in that first headline again please:

"If Wenker does not win the league this year or next"



Sorry but hold on a minute. Isn't that just another way of saying "give him another summer to fuck things up?"
What would be different next year? THIS year Citeh don't care, Chavs imploded, ManYoo are pathetic. There's literally zero competition and zero chance ALL THREE big teams will ever again be so utterly shit at once. The 2 favourites for the PL are a team who escaped relegation by the skin of their teeth last season, and another team who last won the league when Pele could still get it up
What the fuck is that gutless fuckwit Cross on about "next year"? What Wenker will have a chance v Pep, Klopp, Mourinho and Conte when he chat even deal with Ranieri? Nah. Sling your hook NOW Wenker. Cross can line up to be purged with the rest of the AKBs Steve I, LaughingLoon, Kiwomya, etc when the revolution finally topples this despicable cretinous dictatorship.

On a more serious note, that's about the 3rd or 4th post on this thread in the last few days where you have singled out other posters for ridicule. Read the rules, we don't accept online bullying. Now I'm quite sure those posters are capable of looking after themselves but we have rules to make this forum more inclusive. So drop the ridiculing of posters that don't agree with your every word. Make your point without singling out other posters.

To everyone else; this weekend we mods are going to be as lenient as we can be during the (very possible) car crash at the Drain as far as people ranting and venting at Wenger, the players and the Board. But we won't tolerate bullying and any personal abuse towards other members. There will be bans if need be.

[Herd]

Interesting point on the yoof academy , imho its failing because every Arsenal team from 10 years and up uses the same template as the first team endless games of 3-5 a side holding and passing with some fitness in between 1

[Wilson]

I dont understand the whole point of him having the next season. When one says, like John Cross, that Wenger should leave after next season, it comes across as if they have made up their mind he needs to go, but just because he has a year left to go, that he gets to stay for that year. Whats wrong with binning Arsene and cancelling that last year by sacking him???

He doesnt get to stay for another season just because its on his contract. The way I look at it, is if Wenger is 'allowed' to stay for his last season, then Arsenal are standing still and allowing another barren year. F that!! We need to jump start the club because we have to convince Sanchez and Ozil to remain at the club. We cant drift aimlessly for a season through an act of charity by giving Wenger 'one last season'.

When a veteran player has lost his powers and the faith of the fans, he might start the last game of the season if its a dead rubber - Liverpool did this with Jamie Carragher. But what Liverpool didnt do, was give Jamie Carragher another SEASON as first choice centre half as a kind of thanks for his service and longevity.

City have Pep next season, Chelsea and United will be stronger, as will Liverpool, Everton have new money. Fuk knows how good Spurs can be if they sign top players with CL football to offer. And were talking about 'giving Arsene one last season'.

Ive given up expecting this club to do the right thing.

[DB10GOONER]

Was talking to the wife's cousin last night and he told me that he was travelling in a London cab a few weeks ago when the driver (a shammer) told him that one of the AFC board was in his cab recently on his way to a fans Q & A (assume it was friar ?). Anyway he told the wife's cousin that it costs £7m per season to run the academy and that he (don't know if it was the full board) is questioning the viability/business sense of running it. He claims that it would make more sense to go out and buy young players instead of pumping £7m into an academy that isn't producing anywhere near enough players to justify the cost

Standing back and looking at it from a detatched perspective I can certainly see his point of view, but as a Gooner of some 40 years I look back at real pride at some of the players the club has produced over the years (TA6, chippy brady, merse, rocky etc) and I would be gutted if we stopped trying to develop our own Of course it also has to be said that if you stop the academy, then you sure as shit better have a manager that is actually winning to spend money buying players

Cabby told bloke in cab that told bloke on internet forum....



Could be true though of course. I'm kinda torn on this issue tbh. I too am old enough and long enough of penis to remember those great youth players that came through and it always felt more special to see them win trophies than the "bought in" players in a way. But then it's another £7m that is being wasted every season. Add that to Wenger's £8m and we are pissing £15m up the wall every year.

Also add Walcott's wages on there.

[blair207]

Was talking to the wife's cousin last night and he told me that he was travelling in a London cab a few weeks ago when the driver (a shammer) told him that one of the AFC board was in his cab recently on his way to a fans Q & A (assume it was friar ?). Anyway he told the wife's cousin that it costs £7m per season to run the academy and that he (don't know if it was the full board) is questioning the viability/business sense of running it. He claims that it would make more sense to go out and buy young players instead of pumping £7m into an academy that isn't producing anywhere near enough players to justify the cost

Standing back and looking at it from a detatched perspective I can certainly see his point of view, but as a Gooner of some 40 years I look back at real pride at some of the players the club has produced over the years (TA6, chippy brady, merse, rocky etc) and I would be gutted if we stopped trying to develop our own Of course it also has to be said that if you stop the academy, then you sure as shit better have a manager that is actually winning to spend money buying players

Cabby told bloke in cab that told bloke on internet forum....



Could be true though of course. I'm kinda torn on this issue tbh. I too am old enough and long enough of penis to remember those great youth players that came through and it always felt more special to see them win trophies than the "bought in" players in a way. But then it's another £7m that is being wasted every season. Add that to Wenger's £8m and we are pissing £15m up the wall every year.

Also add Walcott's wages on there.

It would be totally wrong to scrap the academy to save £7m, what would we do with the money? Buy another player we won't use at the January window? An academy always has the chance of producing an outstanding talent, a well run academy should produce a number of first team regulars and international class players over the years. The board should be looking at why it's not producing, not how much it's costing.

[Offside]

Interesting point on the yoof academy , imho its failing because every Arsenal team from 10 years and up uses the same template as the first team endless games of 3-5 a side holding and passing with some fitness in between 1

Wenger's record with young players is very poor, especially when you consider that he's the self-styled "developer of youth". The idea of him winning trophies with a clutch of in-house players (like GG did with the 1991 title winners) is a fantasy. Where are all those Carling Cup kids now?

[Gunner Rob]

so to the latest Wenger press conference, otherwise known as feed the media with a ton of shit.

He has now watched the Swansea match again "the second goal was offside, first was blatant foul on Ozil"
So he remains in total denial...

He has also had a go at Thierry Henry
Henry apparently claimed that he had never seen the fans so angry after the Swansea defeat.
"Thierry Henry has his opinions,” said Wenger. “He has not found the measurement of the fans’ angriness, of 60,000 people straight away because he sits in the best seats of the stadium.”

The guy has just lost the plot and in my opinion is becoming an increasing embarrassment for the club.
WENGER OUT

[Rob Admin]

"Henry has his opinions" - yes and he along with all the other Invincible are not involved with the club precisely for this reason.

RvP, Cesc and Nasri - also had opinions and were outspoken therefore replaced by mutants who bow to Our Great Leader.