THE WENGER THREAD

[foxinthebox2001]

What is happening now is ensuring that, even if he does see out his contract, he wont sign a new one, even if it is offered.

How do you work that out mate? Been here many many times before

The mood will soon change next season when we're cruising in November and the speculation about his future brings out the I Luv AW t-shirts. We'll qualify for the last 16 again and Gazidis and Wiggy will have persuaded him that a new £9m per year deal will be worth a few mild boos and the occasional brush in with the Stoke Three

No, we havent been here before. Its coming to an end mate. Trust me. If not this season, then next.

I honestly hope you're right, I really do. I just think people always think it feels different because its current. I don't think the flak coming his way now is any worse than when we lost 8-2 and were 17th after 4 games, or when we lost the first game 1-3 at home to Villa and hadn't signed anyone. He also copped a load of shit when we lost 0-3 at Everton a couple of years back which saw us slump from 1st to 5th in the space of 8 weeks. Also after the Birmingham cup final and Bradford cup defeat he got bundles. I certainly haven't seen anyone this season give him any shit as the Stoke Three did last season.

But as I say.....I hope you're right. Personally I think the so called 'flak' he's taking will make him even more determined to stick 2 fingers up to us and the doubters and see him stay for 3 more years

What makes you think its different this time?

A couple reasons. There are deffo more fans turning to want him gone. The unrest and protests, banners is much more sustained. ( And hopefully will continue ). Because of this there is far more discussion in the media, ex-players like Smudger and Petit are publicly calling for him to step down. Its unprecidented and its because of fan pressure to begin with.

Wengers not stupid and his ego wont take this sustai ed questioning. Also 20years is a nice milestone, a nice round number.

Its a perfect storm
#endgamewenger

I was sure as anyone that this would be Wengers final season if we did not win the title.
Until last week when I read this.
If you want to win championships then you would never get involved
Take note of that sentence uttered by the man who owns our club, and just take a moment to let that settle in.
A great article by Amy Lawrence puts it into perspective.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... ene-wenger
That and Wengers bizarre press meeting in the wake of the CL dumping when he intimated he had built the club led me to the conclusion he was getting ready for a war of attrition with fans, press, and any other ex player wishing to condemn his methods.
Banners on show or not, he is in it for the long run, Stan loves him, as he clearly backs his statement in bold above, and that's all that matters.

[SteveO 35]

^^ Exactly right. Wenger and Kroenke hold us all in absolute contempt and no amount of boos and banners will break their little cartel. He's here to stay

[Henry Norris 1913]

i was hoping 2016 would be the year seeing as, well, most big years of change in our history end with a six

66 wright sacked, mee appointed
76 mee sacked, neill appointed
86 howe resigns, graham appointed
96 rioch out, wenger in
06 leaving highbury
16? gives us something- please...

[blair207]

Even allowing for how crap Everton are at home I think we will clinch the VT of 4th now, what that's gonna mean in the bigger picture is anyone's guess.

[armchair]

The stupid fuckers who try to assault those with anti-wenger banners dont realise that what they do only brings more attention on the banner. And thats the whole point.

The stupid neanderthal fuckers.

[Wilson]

Praising the mental strengh of the team after this win was predictable. We go through a sustained period of poor results, and its inevitable we are going to snap the poor run and get a good result soon enough, and when we do, Wenger thinks its 'proving the critics wrong'.

You cant go 3 games without a league win in the business end of the season. We lose against United, and we should have bounced back against Swansea.....we didnt. Because of the two losses in a row, we needed to beat Spurs........we didnt. If it wasnt this week against Everton, and we beat Watford the next week, Wenger would have credited the mental strengh of the team after the assumed win over Watford a week from now

I dont understand why he thinks this proves anything. The margin for error at this end of the season does not accept failure to win in 3 league games.

Also, given Leicester City won, we have less chance of winning the league before the win against Everton, as the points differential remains the same, yet the pool of points left to play for decreases as we edge closer to 38 games. Yet Wenger this puts us 'back on track'.

This is my problem with Wenger. He is holding Arsenal FC to a lower standard, than Ranieri is holding Leicester City. Leicester know they can ill afford to slip up once, let alone three times. Leicester are a serious team, with a serious manager who understands the cut throat nature of the title run in. Whilst Wenger, shows incredible ignorance and naivety thinking you can falter 3 times in a row, and still make up the ground against a serious team like Leicester who are winning 1-0 every week.

[GoonerMuzz]

Hate to say it but the only thing which would make Stan turn on Wenger is sustained damage to the brand, and a poor run of results and a bit of dissent in the ground is not going to massively effect the brand.

Bear in mind that even were we not to get the CL money next season we'd still break even with the new TV deal.

Sorry lads but i think some of you are popping your corks a bit too early

[xisstential]

Funny thing is we could still win the league! We usually embark on winning run at this stage of season to haul us back into top 4 ! I still think leicester have too many difficult games to play ! Spuds have pool utd and chavs and are perrenial bottlers! Whereas our hardest games are against teams involved in clge and fa cup !
It would be incredulous if we did win it ! I wouldnt know how to feel cos we have ben shit this season! But imagine pipping those *word censored* on last day if the season i would still want wenker gone but what a twist in the tale ut would make

Give up the dream Sid - its no coincidence to me that we've supposedly had our 2 best performances of recent times in the last 2 games when the CL was already done, and the league is gone. Even if by some miracle we reeled Leicester back in with a game or two to go, the minute the expectation swung our way the old yellow streak and brown skidmarked pants would return anyway....

Im not hoping mate ! I would love leicester to do it but just pointing out we are by no means out of it against 2 sides with no experience or previous of bottling from seemingly unbottleable situations ie lasgnegate and mind the gap

I am holding out ZERO hope, SteveO is right, we go on unbeaten runs to clinch 4th, Every time the table toppers slipped up & we had our chance to go top, we bottled it, every time we had a chance to open a gap, we bottled it...... we cannot play when there is pressure. At the business end of the season when we needed to send out a message we have picked up 13 points from a possible 30. What does that tell you. We'll get 4th though, Wenger probably threatens his protected players like Walcott, Giroud, Ramsey, etc,etc, that if they don't he's leaving. And they must know, if he goes,so will they.

So 1/4 finals of the FA cup, CL qualification (AGAIN),a damn good showing against Barca (in his mind), record profits and only 15m spent on players.... all in all an excellent season. AND let us not forget, as our esteemed manager pointed out, we beat Leicester twice, if the other teams had done their job Leicester wouldn't have got so far away.

Now for a little unbeaten run thereby helping Wenger to get MOTM in April/May and that will put the cherry on the top for him.

[supergeorgegraham]

I knew we would play well and win eventually and I knew some short minded fans would start saying we can win the league. It's been a horrible season and one that the club ran out of excuses.
Arsenal made a terrible mistake letting Kronke take control and it looks like he will keep control and leave us in nowhere land for a very long time.
I feel sorry for the fans who waited and waited and waited and waited

[supergeorgegraham]

Good to see Welbeck playing well though

[xisstential]

I knew we would play well and win eventually and I knew some short minded fans would start saying we can win the league. It's been a horrible season and one that the club ran out of excuses.
Arsenal made a terrible mistake letting Kronke take control and it looks like he will keep control and leave us in nowhere land for a very long time.
I feel sorry for the fans who waited and waited and waited and waited

Really??.... when, I'm still hearing the old chestnuts on a weekly basis.

[Bradywasking]

Dean Saunders on Goals on Sunday is the latest football "celeb" to defend Wenger. He was talking about the amount of money Chelsea and the Manchester clubs were spending. He neglected to mention the amount Arsenal are hoarding.

[OneBardGooner]

Apparantely you can abuse Kronke, Gazidis, ex-players, etc........
But say anything against Wenger and you get a slap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SSOWORzw4

[OneBardGooner]

hope he feels unappreciated. i know it's not nice, but if we keep reeling out the banners maybe he'll think leaving at the end of 2017 will be his way of punishing us. i certainly hope so, i think the media will take a dim view of his inability to finish above leicester this season, without actually calling for him to go of course.

The media have seen us in shit form, and our chances of winning anything gone, and the most I've seen from them Is criticising the guys with the banner. The media spend a few days criticising Wenger after a defeat, but will usually defend him, and will be mentioning the remarkable achievement of finishing top 4 before the season is over.

The Journo's and all Footy Media know that Wenger makes 'Good Copy' and rather than ramp up the pressure so that it make sit more difficult for him to stay, they simply play along getting their free drinks and food....But also it keeps 'ink on their pages'..and that is what the Scum Bag Media are all about..ride the gravy train and get all the freebies into the bargain while (supposedly) making news...

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ps: WENGER FUCK OFF - DON'T JUST WALK - RUN YOU KEEEEEUNT.

[OneBardGooner]

Dean Saunders on Goals on Sunday is the latest football "celeb" to defend Wenger. He was talking about the amount of money Chelsea and the Manchester clubs were spending. He neglected to mention the amount Arsenal are hoarding.