As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:wenger in 2004. spot the difference between this and now
not only is the bench filled with class, wenger is doing some in game management and no only giving instructions, but giving a fucking bollocking by the looks of it. fucking hell, that is weird, not even joking
Pires & Bergkamp on the bench. If that was today they would be out there being flogged to death, playing their 3rd game in 6 days and Wenger would be sitting rooted to the bench alongside Sanogo & Walcott.
Looks like Lauren as well. One of the great players who tends to get overlooked because he is clouded out by the likes of Campbell, PV, Henry, Pires and Bergkamp.
I cant believe that used to be our team. Not just the quality, but the power, strengh and mentality. I really dont understand how Wenger allowed this inferiority complex to manifest within the club.
mcdowell42 wrote:Bellerin on Wenger: "He has given me the opportunities that I have. Wenger deserves the utmost respect for what he’s done at #Arsenal"
6:04pm - 23 Mar 16
Here's another one.
Past tense though....what he has done - not what he is doing now.
Arsene has been a great manager for Arsenal, sadly has been is most appropriate description of him.
BFG4 wrote:Who said anything about 'respect' for Wenger? I've read through my post, which I stand by, several times and I cannot see athe word respect anywhere.
On that basis would you like to re-think your rant?
I was merely pointing to your comment that you could never hate him, and i was giving a reason as to why so many have grown to hate him. You mentioned all the great things he had done for the club as a reason for not hating him, i took that as you must have some respect for him. I apologize if i took you up the wrong un .[/quote]
Ooo err missus !
John "Lord Haw Haw" Cross trying to soften us all up. It must be time to renew those season tickets:
Arsenal want to rebuild the spine of the team as Wenger targets a major shake-up of the squad and are long-term admirers of Southampton midfielder Victor Wanyama. They have already been offered Paris Saint-Germain's free-agent-to-be superstar striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic, while Real Madrid midfielder Toni Kroos and Borussia Dortmund frontman Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang have been watched.
Offside wrote:John "Lord Haw Haw" Cross trying to soften us all up. It must be time to renew those season tickets:
Arsenal want to rebuild the spine of the team as Wenger targets a major shake-up of the squad and are long-term admirers of Southampton midfielder Victor Wanyama. They have already been offered Paris Saint-Germain's free-agent-to-be superstar striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic, while Real Madrid midfielder Toni Kroos and Borussia Dortmund frontman Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang have been watched.
xisstential wrote:"Shake up, eyeing, watching with interest, keen on, have been offered, tempting"... translation..... Thanks but no
The perfect Wenger quote;
"After 30 years working in football, I nearly signed Ibrahimovic, maybe one or two per cent away, but we were a leeetle beet jaded, a leetle beet red zone, after financial doping ruined the internal transfer market 3 years ago. Also, I didn't want to sign him as it would kill Walcott."
This is the same bunch of players that last August Wenger was adamant in stating they were good enough to win the title, without need of any additions, apart from a keeper.
So why should his judgement be trusted again?
Offside wrote:John "Lord Haw Haw" Cross trying to soften us all up. It must be time to renew those season tickets:
Arsenal want to rebuild the spine of the team as Wenger targets a major shake-up of the squad and are long-term admirers of Southampton midfielder Victor Wanyama. They have already been offered Paris Saint-Germain's free-agent-to-be superstar striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic, while Real Madrid midfielder Toni Kroos and Borussia Dortmund frontman Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang have been watched.
This is the same guy who said the other day that consistently qualifying for the CL was a major achievement for Wenger, so surely we don't need to spend big this summer since we are on course for another VT.
DB10GOONER wrote:I don't hate Wenger. Hate is a very strong emotion. I reserve hatred for any fucker that hurts my family or friends or is an evil bastard. I don't hate a football manager that I've never met. That's silly tbh. I want him gone. I don't like or respect what he has become. But I can seperate that and catorgarise it. I feel sorry that a man that did so much good, so many great things for The Arsenal is now so detrimental to the football club and causing so much bitter vindictiveness between Gooners. And anyone that thinks (or pretends to think) that he didn't do great things is a bullshitter. I am offended by the dismissive way he now treats Arsenal fans (something that is now inherent in our club). I also do not agree that those previous great things entitle him to some bizarre endless right to just keep on making the same ego-fueled mistakes. He has failed repeatedly. He has to go. It is a results driven business. He has not delivered enough to justify what he is paid. 2 FA Cups (whilst enjoyable at the time) is nowhere near enough for 10 years earning £7m-£8m a year. He has failed terribly in the last 8 or 9 years.
I want him gone. I don't respect him any more. I am grateful for what he did for us from 1996-2006. He often offends me. But I do not hate him. Don't give a fuck what anyone thinks of that either tbh.
I agree with this..................and with the point Augie made afterwards too
Although I think he is mostly upset that he can't post on the 'personal abuse' thread. He hates that
When I talk to my sons about team sports, I always refer them to the film The Blind Side where Big Mike is told that his team-mates are like his family - like a lot of people, over the years I have had some shitty times but the one constant I had during those times were my second family........Arsenal Football Club. There were many good times and many bad times but even then I had more of an emotional connection to them than I did to any person I knew - the problem with feeling that way, is that it leaves a man open to be seriously hurt and that is where I find myself now. This club is nothing like the club I grew up with and feels more like someone that I used to love once upon a time but now don't have anything in common with.
I would suggest that in any relationship it is normal for a person to search for the reasons why a relationship went sour......arsehole wenger is that reason He has betrayed everything that my club used to stand for - people might like to blame kroenke (and the cu.nt is far from blameless ), but the reality is that he had started to mis-manage our club before kroenke ever came along. Hate is a strong word, but in this case it is totally suitable imo - he has damaged my club in a massive way, and if he has allowed to remain in charge then he will damage the club to the point that it will take decades to repair.
Built the club ? No way, but he sure as shit is destroying it
I'm just so fucking bored of having him manage the club. If the *word censored* is allowed to be in charge next season, then it will be the most obvious sign of complete and utter unambition.
xisstential wrote:"Shake up, eyeing, watching with interest, keen on, have been offered, tempting"... translation..... Thanks but no
The perfect Wenger quote;
"After 30 years working in football, I nearly signed Ibrahimovic, maybe one or two per cent away, but we were a leeetle beet jaded, a leetle beet red zone, after financial doping ruined the internal transfer market 3 years ago. Also, I didn't want to sign him as it would kill Walcott."
Brilliant, mate. 
He has betrayed everything that my club used to stand for - people might like to blame kroenke (and the cu.nt is far from blameless 
), but the reality is that he had started to mis-manage our club before kroenke ever came along. Hate is a strong word, but in this case it is totally suitable imo - he has damaged my club in a massive way, and if he has allowed to remain in charge then he will damage the club to the point that it will take decades to repair.
