THE WENGER THREAD

[xisstential]

Why would it surprise anybody that he would be offered a new contract . And why would he NOT take it ?
Nothing has changed and the cash produced by the chumps league qualification keeps rolling in.
If fans dont renew they make more from tourists anyway .
Its all good at the conglomerates hog fest !

Because he has NEVER seen the level of dissent from the fans like he is now - it has taken years for many of those fans to turn against him, and surely the club would realise that the feelings of the fans must be desperate for so many wenker lovers to now want him out ? This is a situation that would take a long time to fade away - maybe he signs some quality players next summer (and keeps the one's we already have) and maybe we start the season strong, but as soon as the half arsed/cant be bothered performances kick in (and they will) then the stadium will turn poisonous again because the lack of tactical acumen and motivation will again be plain for all to see

He doesn't care .... everybody except the cleaning lady has been rolled out to enforce their backing of him. It's not like there is a 85% toxic atmosphere inside the grounds, it's a handful of "dissidents", nothing more. The people who really matter, support him 100%.... At most clubs that would be the fans but in Wenger, and the clubs eyes, the fans are the ones who matter least.

[augie]

Why would it surprise anybody that he would be offered a new contract . And why would he NOT take it ?
Nothing has changed and the cash produced by the chumps league qualification keeps rolling in.
If fans dont renew they make more from tourists anyway .
Its all good at the conglomerates hog fest !

Because he has NEVER seen the level of dissent from the fans like he is now - it has taken years for many of those fans to turn against him, and surely the club would realise that the feelings of the fans must be desperate for so many wenker lovers to now want him out ? This is a situation that would take a long time to fade away - maybe he signs some quality players next summer (and keeps the one's we already have) and maybe we start the season strong, but as soon as the half arsed/cant be bothered performances kick in (and they will) then the stadium will turn poisonous again because the lack of tactical acumen and motivation will again be plain for all to see

He doesn't care .... everybody except the cleaning lady has been rolled out to enforce their backing of him. It's not like there is a 85% toxic atmosphere inside the grounds, it's a handful of "dissidents", nothing more. The people who really matter, support him 100%.... At most clubs that would be the fans but in Wenger, and the clubs eyes, the fans are the ones who matter least.

But it isn't a handful.......not by any means. I would argue that it has never been a handful, but because it probably seemed that way because the majority of the jcl match goers back him, it would have seemed that way. The club and wenger can no longer cling to that because now the majority are opposed to him staying on, although the fanbase are split on how to display that feeling - I have no doubt that a large percentage of the fans who do not publicly show their dissent, would still vote for a change of manager if they were asked

[Henry Norris 1913]

absolutely shameful that this man is being rewarded yet again with another lucrative contract after this season, which is probably the one he has underachieved the most in in his entire career.

"arsene fc, papering over cracks since 2006" would make a good statement, instead of the "thanks for the memories". because at least that would draw attention to the fact that finishing fourth every year is essentialy papering over cracks.

[xisstential]

Why would it surprise anybody that he would be offered a new contract . And why would he NOT take it ?
Nothing has changed and the cash produced by the chumps league qualification keeps rolling in.
If fans dont renew they make more from tourists anyway .
Its all good at the conglomerates hog fest !

Because he has NEVER seen the level of dissent from the fans like he is now - it has taken years for many of those fans to turn against him, and surely the club would realise that the feelings of the fans must be desperate for so many wenker lovers to now want him out ? This is a situation that would take a long time to fade away - maybe he signs some quality players next summer (and keeps the one's we already have) and maybe we start the season strong, but as soon as the half arsed/cant be bothered performances kick in (and they will) then the stadium will turn poisonous again because the lack of tactical acumen and motivation will again be plain for all to see

He doesn't care .... everybody except the cleaning lady has been rolled out to enforce their backing of him. It's not like there is a 85% toxic atmosphere inside the grounds, it's a handful of "dissidents", nothing more. The people who really matter, support him 100%.... At most clubs that would be the fans but in Wenger, and the clubs eyes, the fans are the ones who matter least.

But it isn't a handful.......not by any means. I would argue that it has never been a handful, but because it probably seemed that way because the majority of the jcl match goers back him, it would have seemed that way. The club and wenger can no longer cling to that because now the majority are opposed to him staying on, although the fanbase are split on how to display that feeling - I have no doubt that a large percentage of the fans who do not publicly show their dissent, would still vote for a change of manager if they were asked

I agree with you. BUT, we are not seeing mass protests, people running on to the pitch, hissing & booing at the matches...etc. Valencia fans burnt an effigy of Gary Neville FFS, that's real anger. Our club, players, board members have instead, come out in vociferous support.There are thousands and thousands who want him out but if we go on one of our little lazy, dopey, season ending runs now, things will go back to normal and everyone will watch carefully to see how much he spends in the window. If he doesn't nobody will complain until we start losing again and the whole rinse & repeat will start again in Jan/Feb next year. I just don't think there is enough vitriol at the moment to drive him out. I hope I'm wrong, God knows I hope........

[Wilson]

Well Wenger has already backed Theo, reckons his best is yet to come and reckons he will stay for the next 5 years. This kind of mentality just proves the level of complacency and low expectations within the club. If Theo's best is yet to come, why has be been rewarded with 140k a week? Why are we paying a player who by Wenger's own admission, hasnt reached his potential despite 10 seasons at the club, more money than Bayern are paying Robben and Ribery, and get this, only 10k less than Barcelona are paying Neymar!! Talk about mismanagement.

Theo's effectiveness is in his record, 80 odd goals despite 10 seasons at the club, which is about 8 goals a season in all competitions. Its 54 league goals, which is about 5 and half league goals a year, and so far this year he has scored 4 in the league - so he is keeping within expectations. Walcott LITERALLY averages barely 2 more league goals a season than Koscielny.

Now any other manager, tired off the unfulfilled promise, and potential in other players who actually show they are likely to perform (Campbell and Iwobi) would pretty much render Walcott transfer listed. Yet Wenger wants to resist West Ham who want to pay north of 20m for Walcott. Why?? Is it because Wenger genuinely believes in Walcott? Or because he cant bring himself to sell Walcott, and thus justify the years of criticism attributed to Walcott? Thats why Almunia lasted 3 seasons as number 1 - as replacing him is a de-facto admission he was wrong all along, and the critics were right.

Its stubbornness beyond comprehension. He would rather sit on the sidelines and squirm, as he watches the many players not good enough unintentionally destroy the season, rather than admit to himself he has been wrong all along, and that the chorus of criticism was justified all along.

Its cutting if your nose to spite your face. Imagine two people having an argument on whether is safe to eat a pie just out of the oven, one says its far to hot, the other says its fine, the one who says its fine bites into the pie, and burns the taste buds of his tongue, but rather than admit he was wrong, he takes another bite, burning the insides of his mouth - all because he didnt want to admit he was wrong. Well thats Arsene Wenger. He would rather watch Almunia offer up calamity after calamity, rather than admit a mistake, and Wenger will continue to put up with Theo's shit house goal return, just to avoid concession to the critic's.

He really is a miserable son of a bitch, being led by his own massive ego.

[beck]

wenger in 2004. spot the difference between this and now

He could levitate back then?

And he didn't need to wrap himself in a duvet before we wandered out into the exposed area of the sideline .

It was a very mild day for november

[casgooner]

Repeat post

[beck]

Well Wenger has already backed Theo, reckons his best is yet to come and reckons he will stay for the next 5 years. This kind of mentality just proves the level of complacency and low expectations within the club. If Theo's best is yet to come, why has be been rewarded with 140k a week? Why are we paying a player who by Wenger's own admission, hasnt reached his potential despite 10 seasons at the club, more money than Bayern are paying Robben and Ribery, and get this, only 10k less than Barcelona are paying Neymar!! Talk about mismanagement.

Theo's effectiveness is in his record, 80 odd goals despite 10 seasons at the club, which is about 8 goals a season in all competitions. Its 54 league goals, which is about 5 and half league goals a year, and so far this year he has scored 4 in the league - so he is keeping within expectations. Walcott LITERALLY averages barely 2 more league goals a season than Koscielny.

Now any other manager, tired off the unfulfilled promise, and potential in other players who actually show they are likely to perform (Campbell and Iwobi) would pretty much render Walcott transfer listed. Yet Wenger wants to resist West Ham who want to pay north of 20m for Walcott. Why?? Is it because Wenger genuinely believes in Walcott? Or because he cant bring himself to sell Walcott, and thus justify the years of criticism attributed to Walcott? Thats why Almunia lasted 3 seasons as number 1 - as replacing him is a de-facto admission he was wrong all along, and the critics were right.

Its stubbornness beyond comprehension. He would rather sit on the sidelines and squirm, as he watches the many players not good enough unintentionally destroy the season, rather than admit to himself he has been wrong all along, and that the chorus of criticism was justified all along.

Its cutting if your nose to spite your face. Imagine two people having an argument on whether is safe to eat a pie just out of the oven, one says its far to hot, the other says its fine, the one who says its fine bites into the pie, and burns the taste buds of his tongue, but rather than admit he was wrong, he takes another bite, burning the insides of his mouth - all because he didnt want to admit he was wrong. Well thats Arsene Wenger. He would rather watch Almunia offer up calamity after calamity, rather than admit a mistake, and Wenger will continue to put up with Theo's shit house goal return, just to avoid concession to the critic's.

He really is a miserable son of a bitch, being led by his own massive ego.

Very well put
Nail on head

[casgooner]

Well Wenger has already backed Theo, reckons his best is yet to come and reckons he will stay for the next 5 years. This kind of mentality just proves the level of complacency and low expectations within the club. If Theo's best is yet to come, why has be been rewarded with 140k a week? Why are we paying a player who by Wenger's own admission, hasnt reached his potential despite 10 seasons at the club, more money than Bayern are paying Robben and Ribery, and get this, only 10k less than Barcelona are paying Neymar!! Talk about mismanagement.

Theo's effectiveness is in his record, 80 odd goals despite 10 seasons at the club, which is about 8 goals a season in all competitions. Its 54 league goals, which is about 5 and half league goals a year, and so far this year he has scored 4 in the league - so he is keeping within expectations. Walcott LITERALLY averages barely 2 more league goals a season than Koscielny.

Now any other manager, tired off the unfulfilled promise, and potential in other players who actually show they are likely to perform (Campbell and Iwobi) would pretty much render Walcott transfer listed. Yet Wenger wants to resist West Ham who want to pay north of 20m for Walcott. Why?? Is it because Wenger genuinely believes in Walcott? Or because he cant bring himself to sell Walcott, and thus justify the years of criticism attributed to Walcott? Thats why Almunia lasted 3 seasons as number 1 - as replacing him is a de-facto admission he was wrong all along, and the critics were right.

Its stubbornness beyond comprehension. He would rather sit on the sidelines and squirm, as he watches the many players not good enough unintentionally destroy the season, rather than admit to himself he has been wrong all along, and that the chorus of criticism was justified all along.

Its cutting if your nose to spite your face. Imagine two people having an argument on whether is safe to eat a pie just out of the oven, one says its far to hot, the other says its fine, the one who says its fine bites into the pie, and burns the taste buds of his tongue, but rather than admit he was wrong, he takes another bite, burning the insides of his mouth - all because he didnt want to admit he was wrong. Well thats Arsene Wenger. He would rather watch Almunia offer up calamity after calamity, rather than admit a mistake, and Wenger will continue to put up with Theo's shit house goal return, just to avoid concession to the critic's.

He really is a miserable son of a bitch, being led by his own massive ego.

That really is a depressing statistic. Plus the amount you say he is getting compared to the three players you mentioned. It really is ridiculous. His best is not yet to come either, Theo relies on speed and that is definitely fading.

[OneBardGooner]

Repeat post.

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[casgooner]

Repeat post.

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I was trying to get the highlight right on the post I was quoting, I hadn't realised it was just quoting the post every time.

[Sean]

I'm also wondering why some of you are so surprised about this new contract to 2019. The story has been knocking around since last October - Before our inevitable collapse, naturally.

We need massive showings of dissent and banners at every remaining game this season. Pressure should be kept up on TOF and the club - But it is doubtful that it will make any difference.

[Redarmy]

Why would it surprise anybody that he would be offered a new contract . And why would he NOT take it ?
Nothing has changed and the cash produced by the chumps league qualification keeps rolling in.
If fans dont renew they make more from tourists anyway .
Its all good at the conglomerates hog fest !

Because he has NEVER seen the level of dissent from the fans like he is now - it has taken years for many of those fans to turn against him, and surely the club would realise that the feelings of the fans must be desperate for so many wenker lovers to now want him out ? This is a situation that would take a long time to fade away - maybe he signs some quality players next summer (and keeps the one's we already have) and maybe we start the season strong, but as soon as the half arsed/cant be bothered performances kick in (and they will) then the stadium will turn poisonous again because the lack of tactical acumen and motivation will again be plain for all to see

He doesn't care .... everybody except the cleaning lady has been rolled out to enforce their backing of him. It's not like there is a 85% toxic atmosphere inside the grounds, it's a handful of "dissidents", nothing more. The people who really matter, support him 100%.... At most clubs that would be the fans but in Wenger, and the clubs eyes, the fans are the ones who matter least.

But it isn't a handful.......not by any means. I would argue that it has never been a handful, but because it probably seemed that way because the majority of the jcl match goers back him, it would have seemed that way. The club and wenger can no longer cling to that because now the majority are opposed to him staying on, although the fanbase are split on how to display that feeling - I have no doubt that a large percentage of the fans who do not publicly show their dissent, would still vote for a change of manager if they were asked

I agree with you. BUT, we are not seeing mass protests, people running on to the pitch, hissing & booing at the matches...etc. Valencia fans burnt an effigy of Gary Neville FFS, that's real anger. Our club, players, board members have instead, come out in vociferous support.There are thousands and thousands who want him out but if we go on one of our little lazy, dopey, season ending runs now, things will go back to normal and everyone will watch carefully to see how much he spends in the window. If he doesn't nobody will complain until we start losing again and the whole rinse & repeat will start again in Jan/Feb next year. I just don't think there is enough vitriol at the moment to drive him out. I hope I'm wrong, God knows I hope........

His ego alone will not let him leave in this manner driven out of the club
He has the backing of the board and Kronke, we have seen that wiggy will ride out any criticism even if they have to spend to improve results
Once they see improvement on the field, the fans will soon get back in there place

Really think he will stay another 2/3 years, i will still be there when he has gone

[Redarmy]

Why would it surprise anybody that he would be offered a new contract . And why would he NOT take it ?
Nothing has changed and the cash produced by the chumps league qualification keeps rolling in.
If fans dont renew they make more from tourists anyway .
Its all good at the conglomerates hog fest !

But it isn't a handful.......not by any means. I would argue that it has never been a handful, but because it probably seemed that way because the majority of the jcl match goers back him, it would have seemed that way. The club and wenger can no longer cling to that because now the majority are opposed to him staying on, although the fanbase are split on how to display that feeling - I have no doubt that a large percentage of the fans who do not publicly show their dissent, would still vote for a change of manager if they were asked

I agree with you. BUT, we are not seeing mass protests, people running on to the pitch, hissing & booing at the matches...etc. Valencia fans burnt an effigy of Gary Neville FFS, that's real anger. Our club, players, board members have instead, come out in vociferous support.There are thousands and thousands who want him out but if we go on one of our little lazy, dopey, season ending runs now, things will go back to normal and everyone will watch carefully to see how much he spends in the window. If he doesn't nobody will complain until we start losing again and the whole rinse & repeat will start again in Jan/Feb next year. I just don't think there is enough vitriol at the moment to drive him out. I hope I'm wrong, God knows I hope........

His ego alone will not let him leave in this manner driven out of the club
He has the backing of the board and Kronke, we have seen that wiggy will ride out any criticism even if they have to spend to improve results
Once they see improvement on the field, the fans will soon get back in there place

Really think he will stay another 2/3 years, i will still be there when he has gone

[Redarmy]

But it isn't a handful.......not by any means. I would argue that it has never been a handful, but because it probably seemed that way because the majority of the jcl match goers back him, it would have seemed that way. The club and wenger can no longer cling to that because now the majority are opposed to him staying on, although the fanbase are split on how to display that feeling - I have no doubt that a large percentage of the fans who do not publicly show their dissent, would still vote for a change of manager if they were asked[/quote]

I agree with you. BUT, we are not seeing mass protests, people running on to the pitch, hissing & booing at the matches...etc. Valencia fans burnt an effigy of Gary Neville FFS, that's real anger. Our club, players, board members have instead, come out in vociferous support.There are thousands and thousands who want him out but if we go on one of our little lazy, dopey, season ending runs now, things will go back to normal and everyone will watch carefully to see how much he spends in the window. If he doesn't nobody will complain until we start losing again and the whole rinse & repeat will start again in Jan/Feb next year. I just don't think there is enough vitriol at the moment to drive him out. I hope I'm wrong, God knows I hope........ [/quote]

His ego alone will not let him leave in this manner driven out of the club
He has the backing of the board and Kronke, we have seen that wiggy will ride out any criticism even if they have to spend to improve results
Once they see improvement on the field, the fans will soon get back in there place

Really think he will stay another 2/3 years, i will still be there when he has gone