THE WENGER THREAD

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SPUDMASHER wrote:Ozil has spoken out in the press today to say that we are not strong enough and that we need an influx of top players to challenge. He has basically challenged the manager to go out into the market and spend big.

So long Ozil, thanks for the time you spent with us!



The claws are out with le cock when he was questioned about ozil's comments -

"Our job is to do our best and do our talking on the pitch instead of off it"

What a cu.nt - for a pric.k that has an opinion on everything and who is never slow to voice those opinions, to have a pop at one of the two genuine world class players that we have for talking too much, is totally fcuking hypocritical :evil: A man who hasn't done his job properly for years, thinks that he has earned the right to have a pop at someone for not doing his job on the pitch :roll:

Just fuc.k off you senile arrogant w*nker :twisted: :twisted:

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from BBC:

Midfielder Mesut Ozil, 27, says Arsenal have only themselves to blame for their faltering title challenge and must "intensify" their search for new players this summer. (Spox.com)

Wenger still won't do the necessary.... :cry:

Former Arsenal manager George Graham has told forward Theo Walcott, 27, he must be "more hungry" for first-team action to have any chance of being in England's Euro 2016 squad. (Talksport)

So Feo went out and ate 5 pizza's 5 ice creams and a large barrel of Popcorn....and was heard to say - Yup! That's how huungry I am - Even Santos can't match that!

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augie wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:Ozil has spoken out in the press today to say that we are not strong enough and that we need an influx of top players to challenge. He has basically challenged the manager to go out into the market and spend big.

So long Ozil, thanks for the time you spent with us!



The claws are out with le cock when he was questioned about ozil's comments -

"Our job is to do our best and do our talking on the pitch instead of off it"

What a cu.nt - for a pric.k that has an opinion on everything and who is never slow to voice those opinions, to have a pop at one of the two genuine world class players that we have for talking too much, is totally fcuking hypocritical :evil: A man who hasn't done his job properly for years, thinks that he has earned the right to have a pop at someone for not doing his job on the pitch :roll:

Just fuc.k off you senile arrogant w*nker :twisted: :twisted:
Funny, he never has a problem when Walcott & co. tell the press how great he is or how much he does for them, how much the club needs him, etc....... he loves that kind of press talk. What a truly awful person he has become.

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It's the arrogance that gets me more than anything else.
When asked any kind of uncomfortable question he either basically challenges the persons right to ask it (have you been in football for thirty years?) or dismisses it without consideration (I'm not here to talk about that?).

I'd really like to see him put to the sword by a good journo on live TV starting with the opening line "Arsene, don't embarrass yourself by walking away and dismissing me when I ask this but...." He would still walk away but it would show him up publicly. Especially if the reporter pursued him demanding an answer. I'd love to see that although at the same time I'd hate to see that, if you understand me!

I want him to go but I want him to do so with a bit of dignity left. Only he can control that by doing the decent thing and resigning at the end of the season. Sadly he won't and I fear he'll eventually go out of the door a ruined man. I don't really want to see that but I think that is where it is heading.

I cannot believe for a single second that he reads a forum like this (he'd be a nervous wreck if he did) but on the slightest of chances that someone close to him does, please give him some good advice........leave now while you at least have your self respect.

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I'm still waiting for the dreaded contract extension to 2019 :banghead:

Looks like Ozil's a goner. RvP, Part II.

TOF's double standards when it comes to players speaking out is shocking. He'll accept all the praise from the players he's literally given a career to, but won't accept any constructive criticism from a World Cup winner.

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If the reports are true, it was Ozil who questioned Wanker in training after the transfer window has closed last August and told him that he'd left the squad too weak and had let the players down.

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SteveO 35 wrote:
Ed Hunter The Gooner wrote:Came across this super fan somewhere in interwebs. Laughed my ass off.

The man is God-like. He is more than a legend. He has made modern Arsenal. The lack of respect being shown to our greatest ever manager? The man who has dedicated 20 years of his life to our club. Who's turned down Real Madrid. France. Lord knows who else. To stand by Arsenal. The success he's brought us. The lack of respect he's being shown by some? It brings shame on our club. How will they ever face their kids and grand kids after what they've gone on record as saying? He is our Shankly. Our Ferguson. The man's name is synonymous with Arsenal. I've listened to his press conferences as I've grown. His wisdom. He is a gentleman. A role model. He oozes class. He is a champion of the beautiful game. He's as loyal to that as he is to his players and our great Club. Please get a grip. We are in the home straight of the season. Get behind the team. Get behind the manager. Stranger things have happened. We could still win this league. But it will be no thanks to clowns like that muppet who keeps putting banners up. Disgraceful. One Arsene Wenger. There's only ONE Arsene Wenger. It will be a sad day when he does decide to step down. His legacy will be eternal. We should be kissing the ground he walks on. We love you Arsene. We do.
Well, at least we agree on one thing. I hope this guy gets a warning if he comes on here posting that :D

No need to go "abroad" searching for this crap, just made an immensely entertaining time travel to the start of this thread. Times have changed on this board and kudos for Myoldman who started the thread in 2008 with EXACTLY the same arguments we're spitting out today :oops: :banghead: Had this been a woman and not a football club imagine how long you would have gone on :(

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This Ozil thing is unraveling exactly as we called it isn't it? There is a reason Wenker is so averse to signing world class players: it's the same reason he overpaid shite like Almunia, Denilson, Walcott and Coquelin. Such little choir boys are players with zero reputation. The likes of El Neny are exactly the type he likes to manage, players who will feel they owe their careers to him for his charity :roll:
Players like RVP, Vieira, Henry, and now Ozil and Sanchez are all the proof you need that Wenker is a small time manager who needs to fuck off and go manage Evian or Bordeaux :roll:

Wenker was useful if expectations are low and you need someone to keep you ticking over with steady mediocrity. Now that Arsenal are mega loaded, his ineptitude and weakness is there for all to see.

We all know how RVP, Vieira and Henry ended up: they all challenged his lack of ambition and so Wenker put his ego and personal bollocks before these top players. The sad thing is that at the time, many fans backed Wenker over these players, preferring to call Vieira "finished" and Henry "of no use anymore" whilst we all know what was said about RVP. Ultimately though, apart from the fact these players were far more successful after leaving, what have we achieved since?

The AKBs love to say that "Ozil only signed because of Arsene" but we now have proof with this very public spat that this is nonsense. Ozil was clearly made to say that as PR guff by the club, same way Gotze will say he will sign for Liverpool because he always deeamed of having his car broken into etc...

Ozil has directly challenged Wenker and Lord A-Hole's response exudes typical cuntish arrogance. Yet I am still reading people say "I want him to leave with his head held high" :roll: even after his "built the club" comments. Fuckin unreal.

You also need to see his relationship with Sanchez who has come out and admitted he's openly confronted Wenker about wanting to play every game. Meaning Wenker hasn't the balls to drop him, overplays the guy and then he rips a hammie against eg Norwich. The worst thing is when he's asked about this he answers "I was scared we would lose if I didn't play him". Against fucking Norwich.

The AKB mantra needs to be reversed. Ozil and soon Sanchez, are just further proof that it doesn't matter how much money Arsenal have to spend next summer. So long as that piece of shit arrogant c**t of a coward is in charge, it will remain unspent or worse still, will be frittered away on fat contract renewals for the garbage choir boys who would be lucky to get games in League 1. I see Gibbs has moaned to the media today about lack of playing time. Funny, as this fuckwit has been happy to pick up his £50k a week for under a decade and go through the motions (of injury). Maybe Gibbs, Sanogo, Coquelin and Ramsey could all get fat hikes. Unlike Ozil, you'll never hear a squeak from them.

The conundrum is ultimately simple: expect no major players signed over summer because Wenker is incapable of man managing superstars. The evidence is overwhelming. Top players will look at Ozil situation and run a mile. Top players would sooner work for Pep, Klopp, Mourinho or Ancelotti. ALL managers we could have hired over the past 2 years; all huge opportunities missed.

I laugh when I hear people expecting transfer activity this summer. It will be more shite. He doesn't spend big because he's a small time manager who doesn't know how to manage big players. Which is why I laugh at AKBs who claim he "was loyal and turned down Madrid". Yeah imagine him managing Ronaldo, Bale and Ramos :coffeespit:

He is a small-time piece of shit who is more suited to that other shite club in North London...oh hold on, even they're above us in the table now too.

He needs to piss off ASAP. This is unacceptable management. He was too small-time for Monaco and they kicked him out and he ended up in Japan FFS. Why are we putting up with this bollocks?

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Perryashburtongroves wrote:If the reports are true, it was Ozil who questioned Wanker in training after the transfer window has closed last August and told him that he'd left the squad too weak and had let the players down.

He was only saying what the rest of the world already knows....big suprise to Wenker

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Sean wrote:I'm still waiting for the dreaded contract extension to 2019 :banghead:

Looks like Ozil's a goner. RvP, Part II.

TOF's double standards when it comes to players speaking out is shocking. He'll accept all the praise from the players he's literally given a career to, but won't accept any constructive criticism from a World Cup winner.
Not quite the same. We carried RVP through his multiple injury seasons, he had one good one and off he went. I think he owed the club some kind of loyalty. Ozil owes us nothing.

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casgooner wrote:
Sean wrote:I'm still waiting for the dreaded contract extension to 2019 :banghead:

Looks like Ozil's a goner. RvP, Part II.

TOF's double standards when it comes to players speaking out is shocking. He'll accept all the praise from the players he's literally given a career to, but won't accept any constructive criticism from a World Cup winner.
Not quite the same. We carried RVP through his multiple injury seasons, he had one good one and off he went. I think he owed the club some kind of loyalty. Ozil owes us nothing.
I'm not so sure there is a difference Cas, as i understand it RVP asked for reinforcements much the same as Ozil and when they weren't forthcoming he left to find success elsewhere.

I get your point on loyalty but RVP was already getting on when he left us and would have only had a few good seasons left at most, I think he would have stayed if the team had been strengthened as he'd asked.

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that mickey cannon bloke in the fanzine talks a load of shite, didn't realise there were sheep amongst the gooner staff- no offence but he actually agrred with wenger's stance re leicester winning the league, saying it's not our fault as we've beaten them twice, like that is the limit of our responsibility.

i do wonder what is wrong with some of our fans, where does this apathy come from? oh and guess what, if that's not mental enough, he said that mertesacker was a leader. a fucking leader. what sort of leader gets himself sent off like that v chelsea? the only way he leads is like the first lemming to fall off the fucking wall into oblivion ffs :roll:

seriously, this guy must be on an april fools winds up, just as I thought most people were catching on and yet there are still mentalists like him writing for a fanzine!?

gooner ed, please tell me he is being sectioned and put on heavy dosage so he will be no harm to his family and friends :shock: :lol:

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SPUDMASHER wrote: I want him to go but..............
"I'm not an AKB but........"
:barscarf:

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Here's a Pravda video from last May:

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The window-licker comments beggar belief. They sound like members of a cult.

TOF only sleeps 3-4 hours per night :shock:

Strangely, there was nothing about tactics, planning for the opposition or his 70th minute substitutions :roll:

It was almost shocking to hear that the players do gee themselves up, Steve Bould is allowed to speak in certain circumstances, and TOF actually does have a drink with the opposition manager after the game. I didn't think he considered them worthy to breathe the same air as himself.
GoonerMuzz wrote:
casgooner wrote:
Sean wrote:I'm still waiting for the dreaded contract extension to 2019 :banghead:

Looks like Ozil's a goner. RvP, Part II.

TOF's double standards when it comes to players speaking out is shocking. He'll accept all the praise from the players he's literally given a career to, but won't accept any constructive criticism from a World Cup winner.
Not quite the same. We carried RVP through his multiple injury seasons, he had one good one and off he went. I think he owed the club some kind of loyalty. Ozil owes us nothing.
I'm not so sure there is a difference Cas, as i understand it RVP asked for reinforcements much the same as Ozil and when they weren't forthcoming he left to find success elsewhere.

I get your point on loyalty but RVP was already getting on when he left us and would have only had a few good seasons left at most, I think he would have stayed if the team had been strengthened as he'd asked.
Precisely.

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GoonerMuzz wrote:
casgooner wrote:
Sean wrote:I'm still waiting for the dreaded contract extension to 2019 :banghead:

Looks like Ozil's a goner. RvP, Part II.

TOF's double standards when it comes to players speaking out is shocking. He'll accept all the praise from the players he's literally given a career to, but won't accept any constructive criticism from a World Cup winner.
Not quite the same. We carried RVP through his multiple injury seasons, he had one good one and off he went. I think he owed the club some kind of loyalty. Ozil owes us nothing.
I'm not so sure there is a difference Cas, as i understand it RVP asked for reinforcements much the same as Ozil and when they weren't forthcoming he left to find success elsewhere.

I get your point on loyalty but RVP was already getting on when he left us and would have only had a few good seasons left at most, I think he would have stayed if the team had been strengthened as he'd asked.
Absolutely 100%.
RVP sough the assurances that we all wanted from Wenger at private meetings. That key areas would be strengthened and that Arsenal were going to at least attempt to challenge again. Sadly he didnt get those assurances or he'd have stayed.
Fergie phoned Wenger and Wenger done the deal. Its all public knowlege. RVP is not to blame for wanting to play for the worlds best manager and win major honours at his stage of carreer. But Wenger is absolutely responsible for letting him go there, to UTD and win them the league. And I get the feeling Wenger gets some wierd kick out of it and takes some strange credit for their title win.
We now see Ozil doing exactly the same, except hes not having quiet meetings with Wenger first. Hes talking publicly. Hes gone. And yet again, its down to Wenger.

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