Arsenal FC, not PLC

[I Hate Hleb]

I can't see this ending up well - despite it's good intentions.

[Arsenal 1991]

We might be able to count on the blogger le grove's support:

“A rise after another year of profit hoarding? I think it’s an absolute disgrace and about time Arsenal fans voiced their discontent about the way things are going online and in the ground,â€

[flash gunner]

[quote="Arsenal 1991"]We might be able to count on the blogger le grove's support:

“A rise after another year of profit hoarding? I think it’s an absolute disgrace and about time Arsenal fans voiced their discontent about the way things are going online and in the ground,â€

[Arsenal 1991]

1.) To encourage the club to visibly invest in quality players, (who reflect the high ticket prices paid?), to allow Arsenal to compete for the major club competition trophies domestically and in Europe.

2.) To seek clarity over the club's youth policy, with particular regard to the policy of rewarding young players with long term contracts that have increased the club's annual wage bill yet not resulted in trophies.

3.) To understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. As supporters we have clear goals and ambitions, measured by winning trophies. As an organisation involved in various business sectors, but whose principle activity is a football club, we believe that this should also be the clear and measured objective of the PLC.

Again I like these points as the mission statement just think the first one needs to be edited as we can't be seen to be telling the manager how to do his job.

Needs to be more focused on reinvestment of the very high and still increasing ticket prices more than just asking for players to be bought.

Also we should add something to the second one as its not just about youth players its about all the players getting new bigger contracts on little or no merit.

[Arsenal 1991]

[quote="flash gunner"][quote="Arsenal 1991"]We might be able to count on the blogger le grove's support:

“A rise after another year of profit hoarding? I think it’s an absolute disgrace and about time Arsenal fans voiced their discontent about the way things are going online and in the ground,â€

[QuartzGooner]

USMartin

Since when has anyone talked about a quick protest then go to the pub?

Not going to comment much more got to much to do, and I have to be honest and say I find your comments confusing. Would be delighted if you listed five ways this campaign can attract attention and get things done though.

Quite plain and clear what I hope this campaign achieves, and I have thrown my tuppence in as to how it can be achieved.

[USMartin]

I can't see this ending up well - despite it's good intentions.

It will end up fine - Ultimately they may be off-shoots that spring from this movement because of some the differing philosophies in it, but many successful historical movements of these sorts has had differing philosophies within it and managered to survive

[USMartin]

USMartin

Since when has anyone talked about a quick protest then go to the pub?

Not going to comment much more got to much to do, and I have to be honest and say I find your comments confusing. Would be delighted if you listed five ways this campaign can attract attention and get things done though.

Quite plain and clear what I hope this campaign achieves, and I have thrown my tuppence in as to how it can be achieved.

Are you asking for five goals or five courses of action? I'm not sure that is clear here.

[SteveO 35]

1.) To encourage the club to visibly invest in quality players, (who reflect the high ticket prices paid?), to allow Arsenal to compete for the major club competition trophies domestically and in Europe.

2.) To seek clarity over the club's youth policy, with particular regard to the policy of rewarding young players with long term contracts that have increased the club's annual wage bill yet not resulted in trophies.

3.) To understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. As supporters we have clear goals and ambitions, measured by winning trophies. As an organisation involved in various business sectors, but whose principle activity is a football club, we believe that this should also be the clear and measured objective of the PLC.

Again I like these points as the mission statement just think the first one needs to be edited as we can't be seen to be telling the manager how to do his job.

Needs to be more focused on reinvestment of the very high and still increasing ticket prices more than just asking for players to be bought.

Also we should add something to the second one as its not just about youth players its about all the players getting new bigger contracts on little or no merit.

I thought we agreed on these at the weekend ! They are simple, precise and seem to address the fundamental concerns that 90% of the people that have contributed to this thread share. The point about ticket prices needs to be played carefully. If we become too militant in this point and demand decreases then the club will say that our arguments about seeking further investment in the playing staff are contradictory. We simply need to point out that in supporting the club's ambition to compete with Europe's elite and having taken up our side of the bargain with what we pay in ticket prices, that we do not believe the objective of competing with "Europe's elite" is being achieved. We were closer to winning the cup with the Big Ears before we moved; fact.

[USMartin]

1.) To encourage the club to visibly invest in quality players, (who reflect the high ticket prices paid?), to allow Arsenal to compete for the major club competition trophies domestically and in Europe.

2.) To seek clarity over the club's youth policy, with particular regard to the policy of rewarding young players with long term contracts that have increased the club's annual wage bill yet not resulted in trophies.

3.) To understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. As supporters we have clear goals and ambitions, measured by winning trophies. As an organisation involved in various business sectors, but whose principle activity is a football club, we believe that this should also be the clear and measured objective of the PLC.

Again I like these points as the mission statement just think the first one needs to be edited as we can't be seen to be telling the manager how to do his job.

Needs to be more focused on reinvestment of the very high and still increasing ticket prices more than just asking for players to be bought.

Also we should add something to the second one as its not just about youth players its about all the players getting new bigger contracts on little or no merit.

I thought we agreed on these at the weekend ! They are simple, precise and seem to address the fundamental concerns that 90% of the people that have contributed to this thread share. The point about ticket prices needs to be played carefully. If we become too militant in this point and demand decreases then the club will say that our arguments about seeking further investment in the playing staff are contradictory. We simply need to point out that in supporting the club's ambition to compete with Europe's elite and having taken up our side of the bargain with what we pay in ticket prices, that we do not believe the objective of competing with "Europe's elite" is being achieved. We were closer to winning the cup with the Big Ears before we moved; fact.

Agreed - I do think the point can be used to helpdrive home our point. That is to say - we charge the highest ticket prices we should able and willing to invest more than we are.

But actually advocating for lower ticket prices is omething for the future when this movement has moved forward from this specific issue perhaps.

[storrmin571]

I'm beginning to think there is separation in the club if the press are to be believed hill-wood apparently criticised wenger for his outburst after Barca and have replacement managers lined up.

[Arsenal 1991]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 82,00.html

[SteveO 35]

I'm beginning to think there is separation in the club if the press are to be believed hill-wood apparently criticised wenger for his outburst after Barca and have replacement managers lined up.

Hmmm.....if only it were true. I think Hill Wood's comments are more to do with his Etonian code of conduct than anything else (remember that embarrassing outburst about Kroenke and not "wanting his sort").

In terms of lining up replacement managers then I seriously hope they have done some planning. Even if they think the sun still shines out of Wenger's arse, he's not getting any younger.

[Arsenal 1991]

1.) To encourage the club to visibly invest in quality players, (who reflect the high ticket prices paid?), to allow Arsenal to compete for the major club competition trophies domestically and in Europe.

2.) To seek clarity over the club's youth policy, with particular regard to the policy of rewarding young players with long term contracts that have increased the club's annual wage bill yet not resulted in trophies.

3.) To understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. As supporters we have clear goals and ambitions, measured by winning trophies. As an organisation involved in various business sectors, but whose principle activity is a football club, we believe that this should also be the clear and measured objective of the PLC.

Again I like these points as the mission statement just think the first one needs to be edited as we can't be seen to be telling the manager how to do his job.

Needs to be more focused on reinvestment of the very high and still increasing ticket prices more than just asking for players to be bought.

Also we should add something to the second one as its not just about youth players its about all the players getting new bigger contracts on little or no merit.

I thought we agreed on these at the weekend ! They are simple, precise and seem to address the fundamental concerns that 90% of the people that have contributed to this thread share. The point about ticket prices needs to be played carefully. If we become too militant in this point and demand decreases then the club will say that our arguments about seeking further investment in the playing staff are contradictory. We simply need to point out that in supporting the club's ambition to compete with Europe's elite and having taken up our side of the bargain with what we pay in ticket prices, that we do not believe the objective of competing with "Europe's elite" is being achieved. We were closer to winning the cup with the Big Ears before we moved; fact.

Agree with the 3rd point but think it should be the first one. I'm just worried about the first one coming across as us telling the boss how to do his job.

[Arsenal 1991]

It seems that as people understand us more, we seem to be getting much less abuse.