Aaron Ramsey - statistics and form etc.

[Number 5]

Diaby. Went backwards

Are you telling me that the Great Abou was actually even better than he is now once upon a time

I find that hard to believe

Mate, he was so good, Mourinho wanted to sign him.

[SteveO 35]

Diaby. Went backwards

Are you telling me that the Great Abou was actually even better than he is now once upon a time

I find that hard to believe

Mate, he was so good, Mourinho wanted to sign him.

All the wise old owls love the great Abou mate

Did Mourinho want Vermaelen too?

[Number 5]

Diaby. Went backwards

Are you telling me that the Great Abou was actually even better than he is now once upon a time

I find that hard to believe

Mate, he was so good, Mourinho wanted to sign him.

All the wise old owls love the great Abou mate

Did Mourinho want Vermaelen too?

Oh yeah, just not as a central defender.

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

Ramsey is the only player that makes Denilson look good.

makes denilson look like riquelme

[SteveO 35]

Ramsey is the only player that makes Denilson look good.

makes denilson look like riquelme

Maybe so mate but when we've got Mannone, Santos and Gervinho out on the field my attentions are elsewhere right now.

Still no doubt at the AGM the Self Harmer will tell us all 'this is the best squad I have ever worked with, with a huge potential'

[northbank123]

Ramsey is the only player that makes Denilson look good.

makes denilson look like riquelme

Maybe so mate but when we've got Mannone, Santos and Gervinho out on the field my attentions are elsewhere right now.

Still no doubt at the AGM the Self Harmer will tell us all 'this is the best squad I have ever worked with, with a huge potential'

Agree with this. Ramsey isn't playing well and just isn't good enough but in this particular game he's hardly the biggest worry. Gervinho is wasting every piece of possession that comes his way and has woeful movement, Santos hasn't even been in N5 for most of the match such is his positioning and Mannone looks like giving away goals for fun. Ramsey's struggling but not really costing us on the same level.

[SteveO 35]

Before this lad assumes the Abou role of "blame for everything" did anyone actually look how shit even Arteta and Cazorla looked at times in the second half when they have to beat 5 players on their own because we don't have any forwards.

I would actually love to see how Xavi or Iniesta got on in this current side when Forehead or Le Chapman were the only player in front of them (and even then either hugging the touchline or hiding behind a CB)

This is truly the most pathetic Arsenal side from an attacking point of view since I saw Chris Whyte thrown forward as an emergency centre forward

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

Ramsey is the only player that makes Denilson look good.

makes denilson look like riquelme

Maybe so mate but when we've got Mannone, Santos and Gervinho out on the field my attentions are elsewhere right now.

Still no doubt at the AGM the Self Harmer will tell us all 'this is the best squad I have ever worked with, with a huge potential'

Agree with this. Ramsey isn't playing well and just isn't good enough but in this particular game he's hardly the biggest worry. Gervinho is wasting every piece of possession that comes his way and has woeful movement, Santos hasn't even been in N5 for most of the match such is his positioning and Mannone looks like giving away goals for fun. Ramsey's struggling but not really costing us on the same level.

the thing is, when Ramsey is on the pitch the entire team seem to slow down in attack by a lot. its like his shittiness rubs off on everyone else. i swear to god the same thing happened last year everytime he was on. the statistics dont lie. we are 3 times worse with him than we are without.

[Chippy]

the most pathetic Arsenal side from an attacking point of view since I saw Chris Whyte thrown forward as an emergency centre forward

Oh God I had unremembered that. It's now back in my brain. You bastard.

[northbank123]

Ramsey is the only player that makes Denilson look good.

makes denilson look like riquelme

Maybe so mate but when we've got Mannone, Santos and Gervinho out on the field my attentions are elsewhere right now.

Still no doubt at the AGM the Self Harmer will tell us all 'this is the best squad I have ever worked with, with a huge potential'

Agree with this. Ramsey isn't playing well and just isn't good enough but in this particular game he's hardly the biggest worry. Gervinho is wasting every piece of possession that comes his way and has woeful movement, Santos hasn't even been in N5 for most of the match such is his positioning and Mannone looks like giving away goals for fun. Ramsey's struggling but not really costing us on the same level.

the thing is, when Ramsey is on the pitch the entire team seem to slow down in attack by a lot. its like his shittiness rubs off on everyone else. i swear to god the same thing happened last year everytime he was on. the statistics dont lie. we are 3 times worse with him than we are without.

He does take the pace out of attacks and I'm not saying he doesn't hamper us. But saying stuff like his shittiness rubs off on everybody else is bollocks, Cazorla was also completely ineffective tonight and on Saturday but he's not copping criticism. It's not like you can solely blame a right-sided midfielder for the fact we didn't create one chance in 92 minutes.

Ramsey isn't good enough and it's a sorry state of affairs that he finds himself in the team most weeks despite this. Remember a stat that Gareth Bale hadn't won any of the 20-something games he'd started for Spurs either, might be partially reflective but doesn't mean we're three teams as bad without him.

I'm not defending his ability to play for Arsenal at all but blaming him for everybody else's woeful performances is nonsense. Might as well blame him for forcing RvP out and for being the crazy voice in Lehmann's head in Paris in 2006 and for being the greedy voice persuading Danny Fiszman to sell his soul as well while you're at it.

[SteveO 35]

the most pathetic Arsenal side from an attacking point of view since I saw Chris Whyte thrown forward as an emergency centre forward

Oh God I had unremembered that. It's now back in my brain. You bastard.

It was a Don Howe masterstroke together with playing Paul Mariner at emergency centre half !!

I can honestly say that with the possible exception of GG's vintage of 1995 on the occasions when Wrighty didn't play, I haven't seen such paucity in attacking options at the club

Still we've only watched football for 30 years mate, and not worked in it for a day so what would we know.

[Chippy]

To be fair to Don Howe he never pretended to play attacking football. "Boring, boring Arsenal!"

[SteveO 35]

To be fair to Don Howe he never pretended to play attacking football. "Boring, boring Arsenal!"

Poor Don-ster

[Chippy]

I think my point was that he was a tactician who made the most out of the players he had without presuming to be something else. Arsene is the opposite. Interesting though he failed when made manager.

[SteveO 35]

I think my point was that he was a tactician who made the most out of the players he had without presuming to be something else. Arsene is the opposite. Interesting though he failed when made manager.

When he was sacked we were 3rd