The Mesut Özil Thread

[Rosie_titters]

you don't buy a rolls royce and expect it to be a free lander, you have the likes of Flamini, Arteta, Wilshire etc, etc to do the donkey work.

He is a luxury player, who purrs around the pitch.

[clockender1]

I think he's been over used Tis all.

It's the January/ February blues - it's cold and shit and he"s mentally tired . I think his style of play also misses the runs of Gnabry and Ramsay who are the box to box players.

He's not used to the sideways passing game either.

To bring out the best in him, rest him then drop jack and arteta.

Our best midfield seems to be Ozil, Rambo, rosicky, Gnabry and one of Ox or Cazorla.

When Ramsay was on fire it was Ozil who supplied the assists - Ramsay has been out now 2 months already. We missed him yesterday offensively and defensively.

Ozil is class managed by a mediocre manager IMHO

[northbank123]

Clockender how many times this season have we played without Flamini or Arteta?

[clockender1]

True, flamini does a job along side Ramsay.

[topcat]

Ozil doesn't look happy to me. Hasn't for months.

Personally don't think he's here for that long. 2 years after this one maximum IMO.

[Nos89]

Give the guy a break...he's gone from supplying opportunities for Ronaldo and Benzema to Giroud and occaisionally Bendtner. Maybe he was told we would sign a world class striker in January, we don't know. He's exceptional but its quite different putting them on a plate Ronaldo, and putting them on a plate for Giroud...

Bergkamp arrived and we had wrighty, a world class striker. When I see suarez play he plays like Ian Wright. When Pires arrived we had Henry. We need a striker to put the chances away that ozil creates. I would have loved to see theo and ozil play together more as I think they would form a killer understanding. More importantly is that Ramsey being out has impacted ozil's play. Ramsey did the hardwork, allowing ozil space and time to do what he's good at. It also doesn't help we've got 3 no.10's playing in the same team. Anyone else notice how good carzola has been when played in his best position? especially in ozil's absence. No doubt when the sun starts to shine again so will Arsenal.

Ozil is top drawer quality he has to start every game, as soon as wenger starts taking him off he will leave.

[mcdowell42]

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[augie]

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Wouldn't exactly be a shock if there was some substance to this story would it ?

I look at BFG lately and I see a guy who seems to have taken on a leadership role and I ask myself, has he been asked by le cock to take on that role or has he assumed the responsibility due to a frustration at what is going on around him ? We all know that le cock doesn't value the importance of player leadership and captaincy and most agree that he doesn't like team-mates shouting at each other on the pitch, so is it likely that he will have asked BFG to do this job ? Of course it is possible that bouldie has had a word with mert but what does that say then, if the assistant manager is giving instructions which defy the managers wishes ?

We all have a laugh about ze germans and all that craic, but one thing we have to say is that they are a nation that embodies organisation, preparation and accepting responsibilities and it is everything that arsene fc is not so it is indeed very possible that they are becoming very frustrated and when you take into account podolski's situation/treatment, then a fallout is possible in the coming months

[g88ner]

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Wouldn't exactly be a shock if there was some substance to this story would it ?

True, it wouldn't be a shock, however, it's also not a shock that Stewart Robson is behind the story either. He's been peddling that line for ages.

I can see this story being true or made up... and when there's a 50/50 chance either way, I think it's wise to ignore it.

[hugh jardon]

Let's spend years moaning about the lack of investment in the team and non existant league campaigns, then when we finally spend top dollar on one of the world's best players and look like we are at last back in with a shout of winning the league, get on the new boys back - that will really help!

Yes he's had a few quiet games recently but his quality is obvious for all to see... Bergkamp, Pires, Henry and plenty more had unspectacular starts to their Arsenal careers before becoming fantastic players for the club. Ozil will kick on again soon and all those slagging him off will again be cheering his name.

[augie]

Let's spend years moaning about the lack of investment in the team and non existant league campaigns, then when we finally spend top dollar on one of the world's best players and look like we are at last back in with a shout of winning the league, get on the new boys back - that will really help!

Yes he's had a few quiet games recently but his quality is obvious for all to see... Bergkamp, Pires, Henry and plenty more had unspectacular starts to their Arsenal careers before becoming fantastic players for the club. Ozil will kick on again soon and all those slagging him off will again be cheering his name.

I think the vast majority share your views but SOME, feel that his current form does not justify a starting position in the team and tbh, even though I'm not sure if I agree with it, I can still acknowledge the valid reasons for this suggestion. A team that are challenging for honours (don't laugh ) simply cannot afford to carry passengers that are out of form, be they a free transfer signing, a mid price range signing or the clubs all time record signing but of course any new signing takes time to bed in and sitting on the sidelines wont help that process

[spendsum4uckingmoney]

The guy isn't good enough. He is a flop. Hell I honeslty think Arshavin was a better signing. Ozil is complaining about not knowing what position he is playing. Arshavin was played on the left, despite clearly not having the defensive knowhow.

[spendsum4uckingmoney]

Let's spend years moaning about the lack of investment in the team and non existant league campaigns, then when we finally spend top dollar on one of the world's best players and look like we are at last back in with a shout of winning the league, get on the new boys back - that will really help!

Yes he's had a few quiet games recently but his quality is obvious for all to see... Bergkamp, Pires, Henry and plenty more had unspectacular starts to their Arsenal careers before becoming fantastic players for the club. Ozil will kick on again soon and all those slagging him off will again be cheering his name.

I haven't been impressed at all. Maybe he had a good few weeks when he first came but aside from that nothing. I feared Wilshere was past it but he has been far better. Ozil has nothing. His passing range isn't even that great.

Yes we wanted AW to spend. We wanted him to spend it on Higuain or Suarez. If we had Higgy/Suarez we would be atleast 5 points higher right now. Instead AW failed as always and tried to save face with a ridiculously overpriced inconsistent midfielder that we didnt need. How many midfielders do we have? There must be atleast 16. We needed a striker and a centre half instead we had a Real Madrid cast off and for an absurd price. How the hell did it get to 42m anyway? What was the negotiation like?

[wibble]

Agree that we needed strengthening in other departments before buying another midfielder but to write off Ozil just now is ridiculous.

[spendsum4uckingmoney]

Agree that we needed strengthening in other departments before buying another midfielder but to write off Ozil just now is ridiculous.

Answer this honestly. What exactly does Ozil excell in? What does he do that only he can do?

Is he the best passer in the team? Nope
Does he create the most chances? Nope
Is he the best player with both feet? Nope
Is he the best goalscorer in midfield? Nope

I don't see anything in this guy. He's average.