Blue dippers A Sat 5th April KO 1230

[rodders999]

Natural coming together

https://x.com/terryflewers/status/19088 ... cNVBoGD_Fw

[Bradywasking]

Natural coming together

https://x.com/terryflewers/status/19088 ... cNVBoGD_Fw

But there is no bias .....

[Limerick Gooner]

Natural coming together

https://x.com/terryflewers/status/19088 ... cNVBoGD_Fw

But there is no bias .....

A natural coming together if my fist smashed into someone’s teeth? Yeah, thought not.

[Limerick Gooner]

And I suppose Van Dijk clumping their striker nowhere near the ball is also a natural coming together? There are two pens in that one clip. Neither given.

[General]

Sure every team suffers from bad decisions but what we’ve faced this season is exceptional and unprecedented. It’s become so common place over the past couple of months that we’ve become desensitised to it

[Bradywasking]

True that Steveo and I was actually going to mention that incident (stonewall red and shocking call) but the reason I didn’t was because as poor a decision as it was it didn’t massively disadvantage Liverpool. Sure it would be easier to play against 10 than 11 but they didn’t come out of that decision severely weakened.

Contrast that with -

Rice delaying the restart - down to 10 men
Trossard delaying the restart - down to 10 men
Saliba Bournemouth- down to 10 men
Saliba Brighton - penalty against us
MLS Wolves - down to 10 men
MLS Everton - penalty against us.

The wolves game was the only one we came out of unscathed, the rest we dropped points in. Those are decisions that massively hampered us in games and as bad as the Liverpool one was the other night I don’t think it can be put in the same category as the above.

Can I add in Arsenal's wall at Old Trafford being forced back 1.5 yards extra by the referee (.Taylor wasn't it?) allowing Fernández to clear the wall with his free kick and score....Two points dropped.

[OneBardGooner]

True that Steveo and I was actually going to mention that incident (stonewall red and shocking call) but the reason I didn’t was because as poor a decision as it was it didn’t massively disadvantage Liverpool. Sure it would be easier to play against 10 than 11 but they didn’t come out of that decision severely weakened.

Contrast that with -

Rice delaying the restart - down to 10 men
Trossard delaying the restart - down to 10 men
Saliba Bournemouth- down to 10 men
Saliba Brighton - penalty against us
MLS Wolves - down to 10 men
MLS Everton - penalty against us.

The wolves game was the only one we came out of unscathed, the rest we dropped points in. Those are decisions that massively hampered us in games and as bad as the Liverpool one was the other night I don’t think it can be put in the same category as the above.

Can I add in Arsenal's wall at Old Trafford being forced back 1.5 yards extra by the referee (.Taylor wasn't it?) allowing Fernández to clear the wall with his free kick and score....Two points dropped.

and the way they keep allowing van dickhead to continually foul opponents and Absolutely Fuck All Is Said Or Done.... All Part of the Let's feel sorry for the murdering scouseCūnts..... JFT39

[Nick Nack]

True that Steveo and I was actually going to mention that incident (stonewall red and shocking call) but the reason I didn’t was because as poor a decision as it was it didn’t massively disadvantage Liverpool. Sure it would be easier to play against 10 than 11 but they didn’t come out of that decision severely weakened.

Contrast that with -

Rice delaying the restart - down to 10 men
Trossard delaying the restart - down to 10 men
Saliba Bournemouth- down to 10 men
Saliba Brighton - penalty against us
MLS Wolves - down to 10 men
MLS Everton - penalty against us.

The wolves game was the only one we came out of unscathed, the rest we dropped points in. Those are decisions that massively hampered us in games and as bad as the Liverpool one was the other night I don’t think it can be put in the same category as the above.

Can I add in Arsenal's wall at Old Trafford being forced back 1.5 yards extra by the referee (.Taylor wasn't it?) allowing Fernández to clear the wall with his free kick and score....Two points dropped.

and the way they keep allowing van dickhead to continually foul opponents and Absolutely Fuck All Is Said Or Done.... All Part of the Let's feel sorry for the murdering scouseCūnts..... JFT39

Mate, I watched a good amount of both games, yesterday and midweek and I can't believe how he's got away with it. Swipe someone around the head, nothing to see here. Push an opposition defender over from behind, nothing to see here. Constantly pulling players back if they go past, nothing to see here. He must have escaped 1/2 dozen bookings that others would likely seen 2 yellow cards for

[Limerick Gooner]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... treatment/

Hackett is on to it. If you have a centre half that can bully and foul in every game then you have a decent chance of winning the League. No other side gets away with stuff like this on a consistent basis.

[Limerick Gooner]

https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/190919 ... _&ref_url=

Gallagher. No pen. Says it all.

[OneBardGooner]

https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/190919 ... _&ref_url=

Gallagher. No pen. Says it all.

And the Baldy Lying Cũnt is on the PGMOL Payroll so something is amiss.

[Retro Gunner]

I've a foot in both camps on this. I've always tried to avoid the "they've got it in for us" conspiracy theory, because as SteveO says, supporters of every team feel victimised and can point to numerous examples. It also grants an easy excuse to the manager and like minded supporters, when the true reasons for failure lie elsewhere.

All that said, we've been subject to so many bizarre and unprecedented decisions this season, decisions that we're unlikely to see repeated in future, that even I am wondering wtf is going on. So, if it's believed that, at worst, this can only be decisions that are deliberately biased against us, or, at best, gross incompetence, the likes of which no other club suffers so regularly, then surely the club should react.

SteveO made the point and I must have made it 3 or 4 times on here this season, that we should compile video evidence of those decisions, together with similar "offences" made by other teams, where the ref's decision was completely different. A meeting should then be requested with the FA, PL and PGMOL and that evidence shown. We should also highlight the comments of the refs and the PGMOL, especially the bullshit "the player left me no choice", compared with the "I didn't want to spoil the game", or the other crap they've come out with. If the club see no reason to do that, then the anger should ultimately be directed at the club, because I guarantee you that Fergie, Mourinho, Pep and Klopp would have been raising hell and forcing their clubs to make a stand.

Regarding MLS, he fucked up and got himself into a knot and then gave the ref a decision to make. It was a soft penalty and harsh when you're on the receiving end, but how many of us would have been screaming for a pen if the roles were reversed and claiming bias if we hadn't got it? I suppose the crux is refereeing consistency and I can suffer it given against us, if a similar incident sees a pen given for us, but therein lies the issue.

[DB10GOONER]

It was a foul by MLS. To say different is being childish. There's a camera angle from behind their lad and you can see MLS's arm wrapped around the lad ffs.

The real con here is that the foul was outside the box and rolled on into the box. Never a penalty but yes deffo a foul but should have only been a free kick.

In relation to all the other clubs as mentioned by SteveO, I'm sure the likes of Wolves have been fucked over alot but tbh I struggle to think of any other team that's been fucked as often and as badly as we have. The clincher being we seem to get fucked with these crazy one off decisions that no one else ever has or ever will get fucked with.

Not sure it's a conspiracy but rather I think there is a sub conscious hatred of Arsenal by the refs historically going back to GG and then Wenger and as each new generation of refs come in the older guys showing them the ropes are telling them their "war stories" about what a cùnt GG or Wenger was back in the day. Add to this the obvious bias towards the victims* and the manc filth.

Also a big part of it is without a doubt incompetence.

[Retro Gunner]

It was a foul by MLS. To say different is being childish. There's a camera angle from behind their lad and you can see MLS's arm wrapped around the lad ffs.

The real con here is that the foul was outside the box and rolled on into the box. Never a penalty but yes deffo a foul but should have only been a free kick.

In relation to all the other clubs as mentioned by SteveO, I'm sure the likes of Wolves have been fucked over alot but tbh I struggle to think of any other team that's been fucked as often and as badly as we have. The clincher being we seem to get fucked with these crazy one off decisions that no one else ever has or ever will get fucked with.

Not sure it's a conspiracy but rather I think there is a sub conscious hatred of Arsenal by the refs historically going back to GG and then Wenger and as each new generation of refs come in the older guys showing them the ropes are telling them their "war stories" about what a cùnt GG or Wenger was back in the day. Add to this the obvious bias towards the victims* and the manc filth.

Also a big part of it is without a doubt incompetence.

The rules on this changed DB. Seems as though it was about 3 or 4 years ago but could be wrong. Whereas once it was initial contact that was the determiner, it’s now a “continuous foul” concept, which lends itself perfectly to the type of grappling that MLS was involved in.

The foul might start outside the box, but if it continues inside the box, then it’s a penalty. I’m open to correction, but I think I’m right.

[Limerick Gooner]

It was a foul by MLS. To say different is being childish. There's a camera angle from behind their lad and you can see MLS's arm wrapped around the lad ffs.

The real con here is that the foul was outside the box and rolled on into the box. Never a penalty but yes deffo a foul but should have only been a free kick.

In relation to all the other clubs as mentioned by SteveO, I'm sure the likes of Wolves have been fucked over alot but tbh I struggle to think of any other team that's been fucked as often and as badly as we have. The clincher being we seem to get fucked with these crazy one off decisions that no one else ever has or ever will get fucked with.

Not sure it's a conspiracy but rather I think there is a sub conscious hatred of Arsenal by the refs historically going back to GG and then Wenger and as each new generation of refs come in the older guys showing them the ropes are telling them their "war stories" about what a cùnt GG or Wenger was back in the day. Add to this the obvious bias towards the victims* and the manc filth.

Also a big part of it is without a doubt incompetence.

The rules on this changed DB. Seems as though it was about 3 or 4 years ago but could be wrong. Whereas once it was initial contact that was the determiner, it’s now a “continuous foul” concept, which lends itself perfectly to the type of grappling that MLS was involved in.

The foul might start outside the box, but if it continues inside the box, then it’s a penalty. I’m open to correction, but I think I’m right.

It didn’t continue into the box. One angle is deceiving as it looks as if he is still touching him. He clearly isn’t from the side angle. It is a blatant and clear dive when you watch it properly. Even Harrison gets up and goes to carry on and doesn’t appeal for a pen.