THE WENGER THREAD

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xisstential wrote:
armchair wrote:
BFG4 wrote:Wenger has come out with a lot of bollox in his time at the club, but this season has been the most embarrassing. He has said this season that he built the club, has blamed the fans for his sides poor form, has said that the fans opinion of him doesn't matter, and was the only manager of the 20 in the league to defend high ticket prices. We can now add his "expected goals" comment to the list. The Laughable part is that fans will say, they want him to leave with his legacy intact, id argue, what legacy is left?
That he's a complete and utter c unt? :rubchin:
I remember after the OT 8-2 thrashing Wenger casually dismissed it by saying "in any game you get a certain number of chances, some you convert and some you don't. In this game Man.U converted all their chances so we shouldn't read too much into it." Only now do I see what he meant.... those 8 goals were expected, and guess what, they DELIVERED all EIGHT. Whereas our "expected" goals only a 1/4 are delivered. So there you go....... Wenger teaches us something new every day.
Similarly to when Drogba buttfucked us again and Wenker had the audacity to say " all he did was score 2 goals" (or 3 can't quite remember) intimating that it was an unimportant aspect of the game :roll: .

If we have the highest expected goals, then surely it means he and the forwards are failing,

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Has the old bastard gone yet? :suicide:

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flash gunner wrote:Has the old bastard gone yet? :suicide:
What? As in....


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Speaking of highest expected goals this season, and least shots conceded in years gone back (Giroud not converting, Almunia not saving - but Wenger failing to spot the relationship)

I still remember his reaction to a 3-0 home mauling by Chelsea. We had like 65% possession, yet during the game, Chelsea played narrow and deep, and scored two goals on the counter, before Drogba hit home a free kick to make it 3-0. We played Eduardo upfront, and could only find space outwide, and lacking any idea's we were crossing it to Eduardo who was marked by Terry and Carvalho.

Ancelotti's Chelsea did a tactical hatchet job on us. They were comfortable not in possession, and exposed us on the counter, whilst forcing us to resort to crossing the ball in the box to a 5,7 Eduardo against 6,2 Terry and Carvalho.

Wenger thought it was great how we had 65% of the ball. Even though not having the ball was part of Chelsea's game plan. Wenger didnt grasp Chelsea ere happy to sit, and wait till we turn it over so they can catch us on the break. Chelsea didnt mind not having the ball because they were so organized, we couldnt trouble them. Yet Wenger thought Chelsea WANTED more of the ball but just couldnt get it.

Years ago, I thought he was just saving face and being optimistic. However, for many years now, I believe Wenger is just clueless to some of the happenings out on the pitch. He really is tactically naive. I remember how there was a time frame from around 2010 to 2013 where our win record against City, Liverpool, Chelsea, United, was something like 4 wins in 30 odd games over a period of 3 years.

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Wilson wrote:Speaking of highest expected goals this season, and least shots conceded in years gone back (Giroud not converting, Almunia not saving - but Wenger failing to spot the relationship)

I still remember his reaction to a 3-0 home mauling by Chelsea. We had like 65% possession, yet during the game, Chelsea played narrow and deep, and scored two goals on the counter, before Drogba hit home a free kick to make it 3-0. We played Eduardo upfront, and could only find space outwide, and lacking any idea's we were crossing it to Eduardo who was marked by Terry and Carvalho.

Ancelotti's Chelsea did a tactical hatchet job on us. They were comfortable not in possession, and exposed us on the counter, whilst forcing us to resort to crossing the ball in the box to a 5,7 Eduardo against 6,2 Terry and Carvalho.

Wenger thought it was great how we had 65% of the ball. Even though not having the ball was part of Chelsea's game plan. Wenger didnt grasp Chelsea ere happy to sit, and wait till we turn it over so they can catch us on the break. Chelsea didnt mind not having the ball because they were so organized, we couldnt trouble them. Yet Wenger thought Chelsea WANTED more of the ball but just couldnt get it.

Years ago, I thought he was just saving face and being optimistic. However, for many years now, I believe Wenger is just clueless to some of the happenings out on the pitch. He really is tactically naive. I remember how there was a time frame from around 2010 to 2013 where our win record against City, Liverpool, Chelsea, United, was something like 4 wins in 30 odd games over a period of 3 years.
Good analysis of the Chelsea game and looks correct to me, Leicester have proved this year with great success the lack of possession is not crucial

The old Barcelona Tika Taka style which Wenker is still stuck on has moved on considerably, although if you have Messi, Neymar and Suarez leading the line it helps! we had Giroud Walcott most of this season

As for Wenker there are literally scores of similar examples as above, he has been exposed now tactically for many years
his in game management is appalling, selection of players similar, as for playing players out of position, Ramsey on the right wing for example :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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I do recall watching what i think was a FA/league cup game where Nicky B at 6'4 was out on the right wing for 30 minutes crossing balls into Arshavin at 3'2 :D

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xgtdec wrote:I do recall watching what i think was a FA/league cup game where Nicky B at 6'4 was out on the right wing for 30 minutes crossing balls into Arshavin at 3'2 :D
Bendtner was often out on the wing. Why would you do that? He had no pace and should have been a target man, Wenger probably wanted to prove a point. Only a point in his little head though, nobody else could fathom it.

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xgtdec wrote:I do recall watching what i think was a FA/league cup game where Nicky B at 6'4 was out on the right wing for 30 minutes crossing balls into Arshavin at 3'2 :D
:lol: :lol:

One of my resounding memories of the 2nd half of the Wenger era. :suicide:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Just read this little snippet from TO1AW's programme notes v Watford:

"When you look at the stats, we've had the highest number of 'expected goals' in the league, but the goals didn't follow"

2 things:

1. Can someone show me this 'expected goals' league because it sounds very much like we should be celebrating another trophy
2. I presume that means TO1AW recognises we need to go out and buy a top class striker !!! :banghead: Any more news on Higuain's medical.....seems to be taking a while now
Well, Higuain's expected medical was a resounding success. He is expected to sign the contract today. :D
He didn't sign. Well, that was unexpected. :eh:

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casgooner wrote:
xgtdec wrote:I do recall watching what i think was a FA/league cup game where Nicky B at 6'4 was out on the right wing for 30 minutes crossing balls into Arshavin at 3'2 :D
Bendtner was often out on the wing. Why would you do that? He had no pace and should have been a target man, Wenger probably wanted to prove a point. Only a point in his little head though, nobody else could fathom it.


You could maybe understand it if we were a pubis team where our tactic centred around playing high diagonal balls to the worlds greatest Danish striker as he towers over the opposition full back, but we were the original tippy tappy go nowhere football team and having that big lump out on the wing was ridiculous :roll: :banghead: :banghead:

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As long as he lives I don't think the senile old arrogant crunt will ever say anything more offensive, or more disrespectful, than the "I built this club" comment, but I have to say that the latest "expected goals" comment literally has my head shaking in disbelief - what the fu.ck does it even mean ?? :? How desperate for justification must he feel, to spout an absolute dogshite comment like that ? :oops: Surely even gazidas and the other ball-less cu.nts on the board, must look at that comment and cringe ? It is ridiculous that the newspaper mongs have let it slide without questioning it or, taking the piss out of it as they should be :roll:

When people say that he doesn't feel under pressure, they should be reminded of this comment :oops: :oops: :banghead:

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Who remembers Nasri's little spell as a holding midfielder? If not, its probably because you didnt see him make a tackle and thus you could be forgiven for missing it. But there was a time Wenger experimented with Nasri in the holding role.

Mind you, it wasnt as bad as Eboue being played in the centre. Wenger actually described Eboue as a 'pass master'. Whilst also comparing him to Ray Parlour.

Its a sign of his arrogance and sheer belief in himself, that he thinks he can in a football context, turn water into wine by defying logic and common sense by playing players in strange positions, and asserting players like Eboue should be marveled at. In his mind he wants to look like an oracle and genius by making these unorthodox decisions work (as no one else had the idea - only Arsene). However, all of the time it falls flat on its face.

I cant ever remember ever transitioning from 'WTF are you doing Wenger', to, 'thats Fing brilliant, I cant believe you pulled it off despite everyone else saying it was stupid'.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... ass-master

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... r-on-eboue

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... e-midfield

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It worked with Henry, so he tries it every time to see if he an get the next world class player. :banghead:

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HaHAHaHa..................... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/tra ... 2102172/-?

Yet another addition, it really is getting comical and frankly embarrassing now :censored:

On the other hand, he looks so fcuking smug here:

http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/07/arsene-we ... -5801051/?

Xanit probably is coming :rubchin:

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He turned down "inconsistent" Payet but continued to shovel obscene amounts of wages in the direction of constant crocks like Diaby and Rosicky. Work that one out.

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