THE WENGER THREAD

[foxinthebox2001]

Someone of the radio made a salient point that Griezman at Atletico has been pushed really hard by Simeone. You have to wonder whether he's be the same player with us or whether he's be another lazy, underachieving selfie taking millionaires who only ever talk about titles.

I have no idea of what kind of manager Simeone would turn out to be with Arsenal but I'd take him tomorrow just for him and his team to give this lot a kick up the backside and in most cases a kick out the door.

The idea of him getting Giroud to break out of his puffed chest 'chicken' steps and actually sprint is hard to imagine.

[xisstential]

Keowns latest bullshit reply in answer to the question "Should Simeone replace Wenger."

Arsene Wenger decides when he leaves Arsenal. The topic of Wenger comes up all the time and I think we should allow the great man to decide when he goes. He’s got one year left on his contract. You can be certain that he’ll be all out to make sure that in his last year he’s going to be successful – and I wouldn’t bet against him signing a new deal. If Wenger does sign a new contract, then succession planning has to begin. Steve Bould is either nurtured into the role, or they identify who would be the next person to take over.

What I think Arsenal will do is only look for a replacement when Wenger wants to go. They won’t tap him on the shoulder and say ‘We’re bringing in Simeone’. Wenger is 66 and doesn’t seem like an old 66. Most players don’t get much beyond the age of 30 but there isn’t a set age for a manager to be past their best. Just look at what you’re seeing. I don’t see any less desire in Wenger – if anything I see more desire than when he first arrived when you see him on the touchline.

Simeone is quite an animated figure and has done an incredible job at Atletico Madrid – it takes something special to be crowned champions in a league with Barcelona and Real Madrid. If Wenger steps aside I’m sure he’s someone they would look at, but the directors have a unique situation of a manager who will decide when he goes – and we must not forget that.



Wouldn't Bould be just perfect, an extension of Wenger.

Is this ever going to fucking end, does Wenger have to die for this nightmare to end. What the fuck is wrong with Keown as well??? And have the board told Wenger or has Wenger told the board it's him who'll decide when he's leaving.

And to all of you... WE MUST NOT FORGET THAT

[markyp]

whats the odds that when he finally steps aside and then eventually crokes it that in his will he will state how the club will be run in the mirror image of himself which is quite right as he did build the club himself,you could just fucking see it couldn't you,even when hes 6 feet under we will still be dictated too by the old fraud,i wouldn't even be surprised if he continued on the payroll with it going to immediate family or something.will we ever be truly rid????

[BFG4]

Keown is starting to sound like a complete wanker. Backing Wenger is one thing, but to say "he has earned the the right to decide when he leaves", is just deeply insulting as a fan of the club. So my opinion doesn't matter, or anyone else's, we should just shut up, no matter how far the club is being held back by Wenger. By keown's logic, Henry should be able to come out of retirement, and start for us. How could the club refuse, after all he's done for us

[casgooner]

Keowns latest bullshit reply in answer to the question "Should Simeone replace Wenger."

Arsene Wenger decides when he leaves Arsenal. The topic of Wenger comes up all the time and I think we should allow the great man to decide when he goes. He’s got one year left on his contract. You can be certain that he’ll be all out to make sure that in his last year he’s going to be successful – and I wouldn’t bet against him signing a new deal. If Wenger does sign a new contract, then succession planning has to begin. Steve Bould is either nurtured into the role, or they identify who would be the next person to take over.

What I think Arsenal will do is only look for a replacement when Wenger wants to go. They won’t tap him on the shoulder and say ‘We’re bringing in Simeone’. Wenger is 66 and doesn’t seem like an old 66. Most players don’t get much beyond the age of 30 but there isn’t a set age for a manager to be past their best. Just look at what you’re seeing. I don’t see any less desire in Wenger – if anything see more desire than when he first arrived when you see him on the touchline.

Simeone is quite an animated figure and has done an incredible job at Atletico Madrid – it takes something special to be crowned champions in a league with Barcelona and Real Madrid. If Wenger steps aside I’m sure he’s someone they would look at, but the directors have a unique situation of a manager who will decide when he goes – and we must not forget that.



Wouldn't Bould be just perfect, an extension of Wenger.

Is this ever going to fucking end, does Wenger have to die for this nightmare to end. What the fuck is wrong with Keown as well??? And have the board told Wenger or has Wenger told the board it's him who'll decide when he's leaving.

And to all of you... WE MUST NOT FORGET THAT

Do I watch different matches to Keown then? When I see Wenger he's either sitting hunched over with with his jaw twitching, or later in the game, berating the 4th official for something. I never see him directing his players with passion and desire.

[Bradywasking]

Being passionate on the touchline is brilliant, love to see it. You must also have have tactical knowledge..Kevin Keegan was passionate but by his own admission was tactically aware enough to be England manager..Wenger has neither passion or tactical awareness. Keown continues to disapoint

[augie]

Being passionate on the touchline is brilliant, love to see it. You must also have have tactical knowledge..Kevin Keegan was passionate but by his own admission was tactically aware enough to be England manager..Wenger has neither passion or tactical awareness. Keown continues to disapoint

Keown continues to be an absolute c.unt and is sounding every bit the Neanderthal pr.ick that he looks

[officepest]

Martin Keown was a great player for us.

Martin Keown the pundit is so far up Wenger's arse it's embarrassing. The man talks nothing but shit.

"Great Man".

Christ, the way Wenger gets portrayed in the media one would think the *word censored* has cured cancer.

[amazonas]

Keown what a piece pf shit wanker. Fuck right off. No one earns the right to say when he leaves that is just an idiotic sentiment. So no matter what could possibly happen at Arsenal - he decides if he wanna leave?

I seriously can't tell if I can follow the club any longer if there will be a contract extension.

[Redarmy]

Keown what a piece pf shit wanker. Fuck right off. No one earns the right to say when he leaves that is just an idiotic sentiment. So no matter what could possibly happen at Arsenal - he decides if he wanna leave?

I seriously can't tell if I can follow the club any longer if there will be a contract extension.

It is not idiotic to say that, that is reality, we all know he will decide when he goes and also he will decide who follows him, don't ask me why that just the way it is at Arsenal, or rather the level of control he has managed to achieve at the club
I just give up now...FUCK IT

[SteveO 35]

He's earned the right to decide when he leaves

A phrase thrown about as loosely as "Bryan Robson, man of the match" in the late 80s and early 90s

[Clash]

Known is sounding more and more like the brainwashed member of a cult - just repeating the mantra over and over. I've lost all respect for him.

Nobody in sport decides when they go ... not only is that fucking ridiculous it is the most unhealthy thing that can be allowed to happen. Only a moron or a self-serving coward would even suggest it.

As for this one more year thing ... it's almost as if we're being asked to just write off a whole season just to not upset Wenger. A year is a long time. How much time and money do fans invest in one whole season ? You can't just dismiss a season like that. And then of course there's the small matter of just handing Wenger another £8m - a sum of money none of us will earn in our entire lives.

I just don't understand how Wengers early success means he deserves to decide when he leaves ... but the years of abject failure and humiliations that have followed do not mean he deserves to be sacked!

[Gunner Rob]

Last night it was all about Simeone.
Tonight Tuchel's team are strutting their stuff.

The game at the highest level these days is all about young, dynamic managers.

We have a dinosaur in charge

[Clash]

Just boted the strangest thing: before we faced Barca in the last 16, quite a few fans (you know who you are) were pre-emptively making excuses to justify elimination:

"We are just going to go out and enjoy the day"

"It's Barca so we can't expect a win"

"You can't compete with Barca since the Spanish government pay off all their debts" (my personal favourite. Yeah the government don't help capital club Real Madrid they help Catalonian Barca now)


So imagine my surprise when after last night I saw the following:

1. Diego Simeone earns less than half what Arsene Wenker does
2. Atletico Madrid make less than a quarter of what Arsenal do on match days
3. The Atletico first 11 cost less than half what Arsenal's cost
4. The Atletico wage bill is less than half Arsenal's
5. Atletico play in a much smaller ground
6. Atletico have sold/lost: Arda Turan, Courtois, Diego Costa, Thiago, Falcao (when he was tops). And yet they've continued their incredible success.

Still. I wouldn't want Simeone at AFC as he "doesn't fit in with our philosophy"

You know the one...bottle it, play predictable tedious shite, talk bollocks in press, take selfies in dressing room after beating 10-man rubbish side, get knocked out in humiliating fashion in CL, scrape 4th place, concede pathetic goals in same manner, rinse and repeat...with nothing serious.

Well said mate, I was thinking almost those same things last night.

You can also add Aguero and De Gea to point 6. Strangely though, I've heard no whinging from Atletico about big clubs poaching their players or tapping up unsettling them. Ive seen no time wasted by them when it comes to finding replacements for the quality they've lost. No sticking the money in the bank while looking for internal solutions.

As for their style of play, I enjoy watching them. Nothing beats a team playing with energy, passion and bottle - not even our own robotic possession football

[hartson]

keown is a worthless piece of cuntfilth scum.....but im sure once the mind control steroids he was/is being fed wear off he will be deeply ashamed of himself