THE WENGER THREAD

[xisstential]

Once again sticking his nose into things that have absolutely fuck all to do with him. Got a know it all opinion on absolutely EVERYTHING.

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has slammed the decision to strike referee Kevin Friend off Tottenham Hotspur's clash this weekend.

Friend was due to take charge of Spurs' game against Stoke City, but referees' governing body Professional Game Match Officials Limited has decided to take him off the clash.

Spurs supporters were outraged to discover Friend had publicly spoken of his admiration for title rivals Leicester City, triggering the decision to replace the official.

But Wenger has criticised the decision, claiming it questions referees' impartiality.

The Frenchman said in a press conference on Friday morning: 'I am completely against it [the decision].

'The referees are professional and you have to be impartial. I have always been against the rule. Social media does not dictate what happens.

'People have the responsibility to make the decision and I am very surprised.'


I wish social media did dictate what happens because then you would be out on your A$$

[amazonas]

Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere but if Liverpool win the Europa League and finish outside the top 4 does that mean the team that finishes fourth misses out on the spunk fest league? Arsene's bottom must be chewing on his undies at the very thought of that.

From Wiki: "Starting with the 2015–16 edition, the winners of the UEFA Europa League will be entered into the Champions League, initially at the level of the playoff round, ensuring group stage participation in either competition. The maximum number of teams that an association can field in the tournament has also been increased from four to five."

So yeah, apparently we have a seat more than the wonderful season where, despite the horror of Chelsea winning, Spuds missed out on their hard-earned 4th place trophy

[Kvltman]

I know it has been said before at the start of seasons past, but I do think that next season could be the one where Arsenal drop out of the top four if as expected, Wenger continues his parsimonious attitude to the transfer market.

City under Pep, Chelsea under Conte who I think will really revive them, possibly Mourinho led United as well as Spurs and Liverpool continuing their progress. And it would be foolish not to think Leicester won't pose some kind of threat to European places etc.

If this could help in anyway to remove Wenger from the club then I have to say I hope it happens rather than also carry on in a competition the club has no ambition or ability to win.

[franksav63]

I know it has been said before at the start of seasons past, but I do think that next season could be the one where Arsenal drop out of the top four if as expected, Wenger continues his parsimonious attitude to the transfer market.

City under Pep, Chelsea under Conte who I think will really revive them, possibly Mourinho led United as well as Spurs and Liverpool continuing their progress. And it would be foolish not to think Leicester won't pose some kind of threat to European places etc.

If this could help in anyway to remove Wenger from the club then I have to say I hope it happens rather than also carry on in a competition the club has no ambition or ability to win.

Surely Wenger can't be that dumb to realize the threat to his hallowed 4th place will be in serious jeopardy next season for all the reasons stated by the above managerial changes! Anyone else would surely walk away from this situation with the knowledge that a new incoming manager may miss out due to the same managerial changes and trying to unravel the mess that Wenger has lumbered us in (what with shit players on huge wages and contacts, a shit medical team and an hapless scouting network) I just hope beyond hope that we somehow fall out of the top 4 this season... I'm keeping everything crossed for that eventuality.

[SPUDMASHER]

In total this will be Wenger’s 13th season finishing empty handed ((unless there is a Leicester and Spurs collapse )

Clearly this man deserves to leave when he decides to

13 years takes us back to 2003

since then we have won

Premiership 2004
FA Cup 2005
FA Cup 2014
FA Cup 2015

I don't want to be accused of defending AW as I also want a change at the top but the statement quoted above isn't really accurate is it? I don't think you can call winning 4 trophies in that period finishing 'empty handed'.

that in itself may not be enough trophies won in 13 years, Nobody would doubt that.

Those trophies don't include 3 charity shields (although this doesn't really mean much at all given that it is essentially only a friendly. (Incidentally we've won 17 other friendly tournaments in that time include the prestigious Hong Kong Jockey Club Charities Trust Challenge Cup!)

I'm all for reasonable criticism but lets not re-write history to suit an argument.

[Clash]

In total this will be Wenger’s 13th season finishing empty handed ((unless there is a Leicester and Spurs collapse )

Clearly this man deserves to leave when he decides to

13 years takes us back to 2003

since then we have won

Premiership 2004
FA Cup 2005
FA Cup 2014
FA Cup 2015

I don't want to be accused of defending AW as I also want a change at the top but the statement quoted above isn't really accurate is it? I don't think you can call winning 4 trophies in that period finishing 'empty handed'.

that in itself may not be enough trophies won in 13 years, Nobody would doubt that.

Those trophies don't include 3 charity shields (although this doesn't really mean much at all given that it is essentially only a friendly. (Incidentally we've won 17 other friendly tournaments in that time include the prestigious Hong Kong Jockey Club Charities Trust Challenge Cup!)

I'm all for reasonable criticism but lets not re-write history to suit an argument.

Not 13 successive years mate. 13 in total.

In Wenger's 20 years at the club, he has won trophies in 7 of them ... and won nothing in 13 of them.

The point of my post really was to show that Wenger hasnt taken us anywhere we hadnt already been many times over. What he has won us, we already had plenty of. And in some cases like Europe he hasnt even matched what was done before.

Im not trying to belittle what he has done. But for all the worship of him, he is not out equivalent of Shankly building something at Liverpool, or Revie at Leeds, Clough at Forest etc.

[xisstential]

I know it has been said before at the start of seasons past, but I do think that next season could be the one where Arsenal drop out of the top four if as expected, Wenger continues his parsimonious attitude to the transfer market.

City under Pep, Chelsea under Conte who I think will really revive them, possibly Mourinho led United as well as Spurs and Liverpool continuing their progress. And it would be foolish not to think Leicester won't pose some kind of threat to European places etc.

If this could help in anyway to remove Wenger from the club then I have to say I hope it happens rather than also carry on in a competition the club has no ambition or ability to win.

Surely Wenger can't be that dumb to realize the threat to his hallowed 4th place will be in serious jeopardy next season for all the reasons stated by the above managerial changes! Anyone else would surely walk away from this situation with the knowledge that a new incoming manager may miss out due to the same managerial changes and trying to unravel the mess that Wenger has lumbered us in (what with shit players on huge wages and contacts, a shit medical team and an hapless scouting network) I just hope beyond hope that we somehow fall out of the top 4 this season... I'm keeping everything crossed for that eventuality.

Been praying for that for years but it's not gonna happen this year either. Man.U & W.Ham keep tripping up so the lucky will scrape in by default. Top four again, a serious challenge for the title (in his mind anyway) and 1/4's of the FA cup. Couple that with enormous profits and hardly any outlay for players, so all in all a cracking good season.
I have believed for years failure to qualiify for CL would really make him second guess himself. As long as he keeps getting it he thinks, as does Kroenke, it's job done.

[DB10GOONER]

Apologies if this has been mentioned before but whenever somebody posts about Wenker's extra marital affair, I get this awful image of him bonking. It's not an image that I want but that picture of the old fraud in Speedos has never left my head !!

I try not to but my mind sees his scrawny little arse and his saggy ball bag, topped off by a tiny little hard-on. Mon petit handbrake as he probably calls it.

"Mon Cher - venez ici pour un right good seeing to avec mon petit handbrake. Uhh Uhh ooooooh. Je suis une leeetle beet lacking in penetration"

Does anybody else suffer from this affliction??

That's fucking hilarious, mate!

[Bob Bayliss]

Three years ago, the consensus was that Klopp was tailor-made for the Arsenal job. On fairly modest resources, he had made Borrusia Dortmund champions of Germany in successive years, once with a record number of points. He then guided them to the final of the Champions' League, where they were desperately unlucky to lose narrowly to Bayern.

Because we have indulged Wenger's desire to leave whenever he chooses, we missed the boat on Klopp, even though he was a free agent last summer. We can already see the difference at Liverpool. Despite inheriting a dreadful defensive unit, within 6 months of taking over he has taken them first to within a penalty shoot-out of the League Cup and now to the semi-final of the Europa Cup. The spirit in the club and the character he is instilling was only too apparent last night. Would anyone like to bet on them finishing below Arsenal in the league next season, once he has had time to sort out that defence?

If we allow Wenger the luxury to see out his contract we will waste a further year and miss out on other potential options such as Simeone. It has to stop, and stop now. We should be approaching our next manager with a view to taking over in the summer - this summer.

[Gunner Rob]

Three years ago, the common consensus was that Klopp was tailor-made for the Arsenal job. On fairly modest resources, he had made Borrusia Dortmund champions of Germany, and with a record number of points. He then guided them to the final of the Champions' League, where they were desperately unlucky to lose narrowly to Bayern.

Because we have indulged Wenger's desire to leave whenever he chooses, we missed the boat on Klopp, even though he was a free agent last summer. We can already see the difference at Liverpool. Despite inheriting a dreadful defensive unit, within 6 months of taking over he has taken them first to within a penalty shoot-out of the League Cup and now to the semi-final of the Europa Cup. The spirit in the club and the character he is instilling was only too apparent last night. Would anyone like to bet on them finishing below Arsenal in the league next season, once he has had longer to sort out that defence?

If we allow Wenger the luxury to see out his contract we will waste a further year and miss out on other potential options such as Simeone. It has to stop, and stop now. We should be approaching our next manager with a view to taking over in the summer - this summer.

an excellent post.
you see all these other clubs with interim managers and then they get themselves sorted out.

the way I see it with Wenger at the helm we are also in an interim period as well, because he sure isn't taking us forward at the moment.
trouble is with Arsenal the interim period is never ending...
we might get it wrong with an appointment but so what? how can we be considered to be a "big club" if we havent competed for our domestic title for 12 years?? what is the point of being in the CL if we show no intention of competing in it?? WENGER OUT

[amazonas]

We talk the talk but will we walk the walk. Wenger isn't going anywhere before we set the home ground on fire (figuratively speaking).

[amazonas]

Is this bloke attending SteveO's barbecue? If so I might attend as that looks to be some mighty fine barbecuing going on



I wonder if he put up that image as a hint

[Ikechukwu1]

In total this will be Wenger’s 13th season finishing empty handed ((unless there is a Leicester and Spurs collapse )

Clearly this man deserves to leave when he decides to

13 years takes us back to 2003

since then we have won

Premiership 2004
FA Cup 2005
FA Cup 2014
FA Cup 2015

I don't want to be accused of defending AW as I also want a change at the top but the statement quoted above isn't really accurate is it? I don't think you can call winning 4 trophies in that period finishing 'empty handed'.

that in itself may not be enough trophies won in 13 years, Nobody would doubt that.

Those trophies don't include 3 charity shields (although this doesn't really mean much at all given that it is essentially only a friendly. (Incidentally we've won 17 other friendly tournaments in that time include the prestigious Hong Kong Jockey Club Charities Trust Challenge Cup!)

I'm all for reasonable criticism but lets not re-write history to suit an argument.

It's quite obvious Clash means the 13th season in his time here he's gone trophyless?

"I'm no AKB, but playing Devils Advocate"...

[Ikechukwu1]

I know it has been said before at the start of seasons past, but I do think that next season could be the one where Arsenal drop out of the top four if as expected, Wenger continues his parsimonious attitude to the transfer market.

City under Pep, Chelsea under Conte who I think will really revive them, possibly Mourinho led United as well as Spurs and Liverpool continuing their progress. And it would be foolish not to think Leicester won't pose some kind of threat to European places etc.

If this could help in anyway to remove Wenger from the club then I have to say I hope it happens rather than also carry on in a competition the club has no ambition or ability to win.

Surely Wenger can't be that dumb to realize the threat to his hallowed 4th place will be in serious jeopardy next season for all the reasons stated by the above managerial changes! Anyone else would surely walk away from this situation with the knowledge that a new incoming manager may miss out due to the same managerial changes and trying to unravel the mess that Wenger has lumbered us in (what with shit players on huge wages and contacts, a shit medical team and an hapless scouting network) I just hope beyond hope that we somehow fall out of the top 4 this season... I'm keeping everything crossed for that eventuality.

Mate you make perfect sense except you're overlooking what a fundamentally senile fuckwit Lord A-Hole is. In his shit-filled mind, he is an Elite manager on a par with Pep. Not once does he think Pep, Conte, Klopp, Pochettino, and Ranieri are better managers than him - even though they all clearly are! He sees no threat to his beloved 4th!

Many have banged the "miss out on top 4" drum for years and it's never happened...however competition next year' looks fierce.

1. Pep will probably win the league
2. Jose at ManYoo with shedloadsa cash and a point to prove will defo run title winners close
3. Conte is a proven winner who will get top 4, no question
4. Spuds are already a superior team with better defence, midfield and attack. Oh and their manager is better than ours too
5. Klopp is starting to put his print on Scousers. One domestic cup final an potentially a European trophy in less than 6 months there, having not signed a single player. He will have cash to bring in his own players in summer.

I'm not sure about Leicester keeping it up but how can anyone talk down the league champs? Although I see our vast pathetic apologist contingent has started bitterly lashing out at little evil Leicester. Embarrassing.

Next season will be unprecedented in that there are going to be FIVE managers who are without question superior to Wenker.

Jose, Pep, Klopp, Pochettino and Ranieri.
I happen to think Conte is better too and his winning record is superior - though he's a novelty in England so let's count him out for now.

FIVE superior managers, with better teams/players, and crucially, far more ambition. You can already write off next season! Although that'll give Lord Fuckstick's fanboys the perfect opportunity to start the "4th place would be incredible achievement" narrative after yet another inept summer.

I can personally see the c*** finishing 6th next year, picking up his £8m and buggering off, leaving the club to pick up the shit. He'll blame oil money, refs and the fans in the ground of course...

Thankfully he's "earned the right to decide when he leaves" and "I want him to leave with his head held high". Maybe let's go further and say "he should be able to choose his successor that can implement his philosophy"

Remi Garde seems perfect.

[Offside]

You can add Koeman to that list of managers who are better than Wenger. He's always made a mug out of Wenger at Ajax, PSV and at the Saints.