THE WENGER THREAD

[Wilson]

Its his demeanor again - he carries himself like he knows whats going on. Like he understands the world around him, making all these comments, which now includes a theory on how Brexit might effect football (is that really one of your concerns Arsene).

Before the season he had the same smug attitude. A know it all attitude, and he was being sarcastic and trying to be witty when batting off questions about Arsenal's perceived weakness. He was basically laughing at the idea he could be wrong.

One of the main criticisms was we had no cover in the holding role. Coquelin gets injured, Arteta comes on making the worst cameo imaginable. Then Flamini took over, and proceeded to be a liability, namely giving Barcelona a penalty after 10 seconds of being on the pitch. So just on that basis, the critics were right and Arsene was wrong - we had no cover for Coquelin, and an injury to Coquelin would prove disastrous. This is just one of many areas were Arsene was wrong, ans the masses were right.

You would think after years of being wrong, and being shown up by other managers, Wenger might question himself and be open to the idea he is wrong. But he simply doubles down. As was the case yesterday when he speculated there would be no major changes.

Who the F does he think he is to take 8m a year from a club, and not look out for its best interests?

Because his actions are being dictated by his own ego - he simply doesnt want to admit he has been wrong, and will instead double down and stick with this 'philosophy'. How is that not a conflict of interest? How is Wenger allowed to stay on when he places his own ego above the basic needs of the club?

He needs to seriously get the F over himself, because he isnt as important as he thinks he is. Many are starting to catch on, and this year will be the straw that breaks the camels back if he fails to act on Arsenal's behalf.

[Bradywasking]

Good post Wilson, apparently. Wenger "questions himself everyday" well if he does he is coming up with the wrong answers.
The latest comments attributed to him sum up his unwillingness to ever admit a mistake or error of judgment. It also conflicts greatly with the war chest cliché that emerges at ST renewal time.
This is what we have at Arsenal FC and what we are stuck with.
I accidentally came across Fever Pitch last night on TCM and although the film is corny I became very sentimental at the early Highbury scenes.
You could stand in the concourse of the Emirates (let's call it what it is) and point in the direction of Highbury Square and say "there was a football club over there once..my club"

[begeegs]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 87626.html

Well, his synopsis, if true, would surely mean that he will strengthen his attack, but we all know that he won't.

[xisstential]

Good post Wilson, apparently. Wenger "questions himself everyday" well if he does he is coming up with the wrong answers.
The latest comments attributed to him sum up his unwillingness to ever admit a mistake or error of judgment. It also conflicts greatly with the war chest cliché that emerges at ST renewal time.
This is what we have at Arsenal FC and what we are stuck with.
I accidentally came across Fever Pitch last night on TCM and although the film is corny I became very sentimental at the early Highbury scenes.
You could stand in the concourse of the Emirates (let's call it what it is) and point in the direction of Highbury Square and say "there was a football club over there once..my club"

And then thinks, Nope, I was right then and I'm still right now. It's everybody else who won't fall into line.

In some bizarre way he's probably furious that other managers set up their teams to counter him. He probably thinks everyone should sit back watch our tippy tappy football, sit in admiration at the Wenger Experiment.

Well never mind they'll come round, as it's set to continue next season...and the season after and the season........

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Wenkers last quotes are hilarious. Last defense of a beaten man, surely??? He's probably seen the media banging on how Arsenal need to and will make big changes to the first team during the summer and decides to come out with totally opposite agenda. His need to oppose everything the media or anyone else is saying is beyond hilarious.

But, isn't there a quite big conflict between what Wenker is saying and what club is saying about the "warchest"? Wenker in his great wisdom has not only overrun the media but the club too in public. He has to go.

[xisstential]

Wenkers last quotes are hilarious. Last defense of a beaten man, surely??? He's probably seen the media banging on how Arsenal need to and will make big changes to the first team during the summer and decides to come out with totally opposite agenda. His need to oppose everything the media or anyone else is saying is beyond hilarious.

But, isn't there a quite big conflict between what Wenker is saying and what club is saying about the "warchest"? Wenker in his great wisdom has not only overrun the media but the club too in public. He has to go.

No because they talk of the war chest every year around this time to quiet the unruly fans. We wait & wait & wait until the window closes, nothing happens, the season is in swing and it gets forgotten.....

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I am willing to give him another season

[casgooner]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 87626.html

Well, his synopsis, if true, would surely mean that he will strengthen his attack, but we all know that he won't.

"Arsenal vs Crystal Palace: Arsene Wenger admits attacking approach hasn't worked - but vows to stick with it"

That about sums it all up for the last 8 years or so. I didn't read any more did it get any better?

[Henry Norris 1913]

Wenger on eating soup with a fork

I believe I have the mental strength to complete theees task armed weeeth only a fork, i do not need to go into the market for a spoon as i have internal solutions

[BFG4]

The reality is, when we see Wenger saying he doesn't plan to alter the team much in the summer, it angers us because we are judging things by our own standards of what success is e.g. Winning or properly challenging for the title. In Wenger's mind, if next season we are in the top 4 again, then it's job done. I honestly think the Ozil and Sanchez signings were merely a response to what the other teams in the top 4 were doing. When Ozil was signed, spurs had spent huge amounts of the Gareth Bale money, and we bought Ozil as a response to ensure another top 4 finish. Likewise the following season, when man United spent big.

[Bob Bayliss]

It would be wonderful if we were allowed to hold a referendum on the manger's future - remain or leave?

Vote for Wexit!

[Clash]

Generally in life when someone feels the need to keep telling you how honest they are ... it means they are not. Its the same with those who like to let you know how humble they are. Surely one of the key characteristics of humility is that you do not think you are, it for others to say about you. And often it is the same when people tell you how hard they work.


Wenger has said all of these things about himself at one time or another. He is far from honest and a million miles away from being humble. That makes me question how hard he really works. Is it another one of those Wenger myths?

What exactly does he do with his time? I would love to see a detailed Wenger timesheet. To go through so many transfer windows with so little results doesnt lend itself to the working day and night claims. By all accounts training is repetitive and not much time (if any) is spent studying opponents. We all know Wenger is never seen at other games. Unless he is being paid to be there for TV of course And he more of less picks the same line up and then lets the players work things out for themselves

Personally I do not buy this working hard thing at all. How much Arsenal time must he have been spending in Paris to have an affair ffs?

We also all know he is a fraud but maybe it extends beyond just the football side?

[Clash]

Its his demeanor again - he carries himself like he knows whats going on. Like he understands the world around him, making all these comments, which now includes a theory on how Brexit might effect football (is that really one of your concerns Arsene).

Before the season he had the same smug attitude. A know it all attitude, and he was being sarcastic and trying to be witty when batting off questions about Arsenal's perceived weakness. He was basically laughing at the idea he could be wrong.

One of the main criticisms was we had no cover in the holding role. Coquelin gets injured, Arteta comes on making the worst cameo imaginable. Then Flamini took over, and proceeded to be a liability, namely giving Barcelona a penalty after 10 seconds of being on the pitch. So just on that basis, the critics were right and Arsene was wrong - we had no cover for Coquelin, and an injury to Coquelin would prove disastrous. This is just one of many areas were Arsene was wrong, ans the masses were right.

You would think after years of being wrong, and being shown up by other managers, Wenger might question himself and be open to the idea he is wrong. But he simply doubles down. As was the case yesterday when he speculated there would be no major changes.

Who the F does he think he is to take 8m a year from a club, and not look out for its best interests?

Because his actions are being dictated by his own ego - he simply doesnt want to admit he has been wrong, and will instead double down and stick with this 'philosophy'. How is that not a conflict of interest? How is Wenger allowed to stay on when he places his own ego above the basic needs of the club?

He needs to seriously get the F over himself, because he isnt as important as he thinks he is. Many are starting to catch on, and this year will be the straw that breaks the camels back if he fails to act on Arsenal's behalf.

As always a well written post from you Wilson

[Clash]

Is it just my imagination, or has anyone else noticed how upbeat Wenger has been in recent post match interviews? Even the games we didnt win. Its like he thinks if he acts like nothing is wrong we wont think anything is wrong.

One thing Wenger is extremely good at is manipulation. A couple of years back, the master brainwasher even had the temerity to claim fans unrest was because they were being brainwashed by the media

Then there was his ''patience is a sign of intelligence'' quote. Cue the AKB's being prepared to write off competing for the foreseeable future because they wanted to align themselves with their leader. That is the sort of people Wenger has attracted to Arsenal. Its not the club they love, its the being seen to be intelligent and being seen to have some appreciation of style. Utterly loathsome, especially in a football sense.

Squillaci's quote that was posted in BFG4's link yesterday sums up the post Highbury era and how the club has changed:

‘Arsenal conceded goals and they’ll always concede goals. It’s because of the club’s philosophy.

It doesn't matter who said it ... for anyone anywhere to ever say that about Arsenal Football Club shames Wenger. How he was ever allowed to do this at a club like Arsenal I will never know.

[Sean]

I've seen the 'We won't defend' crap from TOF

The arsehole is such a contrarian, the media should say he shouldn't strengthen, then he will strengthen

Excellent point from Clash about how TOF spends his day. We know he only has 4-6 hours sleep per night. Training is the same cookie-cutter passing drill, five-a-side shite only a few hours every day. Attends board meetings which can last hours. Then what? He watches football on TV a lot of the time at home (no wonder the wife left him), yet does fuck all about tactics or scouting. No wonder he had time for an affair. Plus all his moonlighting for French TV, where he's basically the French Andy Townsend, stating the obvious and giving fuck-all tactical insight. The man is a skiver and a waster, yet he's paid £970 every hour.

The fact that the wanker makes a point of leaving the country on transfer deadline day says it all for what he think of us 'peasant' fans.

Nice to see the other fraud Martinez getting stick. Chris Sutton was laying into him on 5Live last week, calling him out as a fraud. Banners at the home ground, pitch invasions, we don't do that at Arsenal

Another similarity between the two frauds is that they were both relegated (Nancy/Wigan) yet walked into a good job after (Monaco/Everton)

Good posts from WIlson, although I do wish you'd stop self-censoring your swear words, mate