THE WENGER THREAD

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Just good to know others are just as dismayed as I am.

Although one stat I cannot get over, is since the turn of the new year, Giroud has only scored in one game (double against Liverpool). The last game he scored in before that, was against City 16 games ago - so in the last 16 league games Giroud has scored in only two matches.

Aguero just fired a hat trick away to Chelsea to take him to 21 goals in 26 games. Harry Kane is leading on 22 goals and will easily go past 25. Diego Costa who most would admit has had a rubbish year, is on 11 goals in 24 games. Defoe who is past his best, has 13 goals in 26 games. Whilst Giroud has scored 12 in 29 games.

Its obvious there is a correlation with our goal shortage and having a striker who is being just about outscored 2:1 by the very best, whilst further is failing to find the net more times than the Sunderland striker who is well past his best.

This is another error of judgement. I posted earlier about the non action on finding back up to Coqulin, and how if (when) Coquelin gets injured it will greatly effect us. Well, every man and his dog said Giroud isnt good enough. But Wenger waved away the criticism, laughing at the silliness of anyone who would question him, and yet again, based on the evidence, the masses were right and Wenger was wrong.

These are not complex issues. This is the most basic sh.. that needs sorted. You dont need to be in football 30 years to grasp these problems. Yet Wenger makes a f'ing dogs breakfast out of these simplest of problems.

We can already call out the problems for next season - everyone can. But we are going to see these problems realised as Wenger is to ignorant and arrogant to admit he has it wrong.

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Sean wrote:I've seen the 'We won't defend' crap from TOF :banghead:

The arsehole is such a contrarian, the media should say he shouldn't strengthen, then he will strengthen :roll:

Excellent point from Clash about how TOF spends his day. We know he only has 4-6 hours sleep per night. Training is the same cookie-cutter passing drill, five-a-side shite only a few hours every day. Attends board meetings which can last hours. Then what? He watches football on TV a lot of the time at home (no wonder the wife left him), yet does fuck all about tactics or scouting. No wonder he had time for an affair. Plus all his moonlighting for French TV, where he's basically the French Andy Townsend, stating the obvious and giving fuck-all tactical insight. The man is a skiver and a waster, yet he's paid £970 every hour.

The fact that the wanker makes a point of leaving the country on transfer deadline day says it all for what he think of us 'peasant' fans.

Nice to see the other fraud Martinez getting stick. Chris Sutton was laying into him on 5Live last week, calling him out as a fraud. Banners at the home ground, pitch invasions, we don't do that at Arsenal :banghead:

Another similarity between the two frauds is that they were both relegated (Nancy/Wigan) yet walked into a good job after (Monaco/Everton) :shock:

Good posts from WIlson, although I do wish you'd stop self-censoring your swear words, mate :lol:
Well there are females on here, and being the gentleman that he is, he swears accordingly!

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Good post Sean, and interesting you mentioned Martinez, as generally the treatment of Wenger to other managers is like night and day. I remember when Mourinho was under pressure this season, the suggestion from the media was that he deserved to go, yet they didn't mention that Mourinho had achieved more in his couple of seasons at Chelsea than Wenger did here for the best part of a decade. Look at LVG at man United, and around Christmas time, the media were doing everything they could to hound him out. Yet didn't LVG finish in the top four last season, an 'achievement' Wenger is praised for constantly. What about at City, they are replacing a league winning manager, because a world class manager was available. None of the media seem to have a problem with that, but they quash any suggestion that a more capable manager like Simeone should come in and replace Wenger. The media want to hold other managers to a high standard, but hold Wenger to a lesser standard, and even celebrate his mediocrity.

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BFG4 wrote:Good post Sean, and interesting you mentioned Martinez, as generally the treatment of Wenger to other managers is like night and day. I remember when Mourinho was under pressure this season, the suggestion from the media was that he deserved to go, yet they didn't mention that Mourinho had achieved more in his couple of seasons at Chelsea than Wenger did here for the best part of a decade. Look at LVG at man United, and around Christmas time, the media were doing everything they could to hound him out. Yet didn't LVG finish in the top four last season, an 'achievement' Wenger is praised for constantly. What about at City, they are replacing a league winning manager, because a world class manager was available. None of the media seem to have a problem with that, but they quash any suggestion that a more capable manager like Simeone should come in and replace Wenger. The media want to hold other managers to a high standard, but hold Wenger to a lesser standard, and even celebrate his mediocrity.
It's true! Why is that? It's the same when other fans have banners in the ground, they always 'understand' why the fans would do it, except when it's Arsenal fans, then it's 'be careful what you wish for.' :banghead:

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it's all about the stadium and "balancing the books". wenger is seen as this tremendous financial advisor, yet they tend to forget the millions squandered keeping dross like walcott, chamakh, diaby, almunia, park, bendtner and others at the club. calls to move him upstairs are what you get when journos want to be the least bit objectionable.

the further away from our club he is the better, i'd sooner get him in a strait jacket behind two feet of unpenetrable glass ffs

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Henry Norris 1913 wrote:it's all about the stadium and "balancing the books". wenger is seen as this tremendous financial advisor, yet they tend to forget the millions squandered keeping dross like walcott, chamakh, diaby, almunia, park, bendtner and others at the club. calls to move him upstairs are what you get when journos want to be the least bit objectionable.

the further away from our club he is the better, i'd sooner get him in a strait jacket behind two feet of unpenetrable glass ffs
:high5: :barscarf:

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Just realised if Aliens landed on the pitch at The bowl whilst the Arsenal Team were on it and one of the Aliens said to the team 'Take Me To Your Leader' - Going by the Wenger philosophy he would have to speak with 11 players. :?

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OneBardGooner wrote:Just realised if Aliens landed on the pitch at The bowl whilst the Arsenal Team were on it and one of the Aliens said to the team 'Take Me To Your Leader' - Going by the Wenger philosophy he would have to speak with 11 players. :?
Pfft really OBG?

It's obviously Theo :barscarf:

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Ofcourse the WH,Swansea,etc team plays like idiots against Leicester.

SO easy to play against Arsene FC.

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Redarmy wrote:
BFG4 wrote:
Redarmy wrote:
BFG4 wrote:http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/14/arsenal-f ... y-5817059/ he was shit when he was at the club, but at least this reveals some of crackpots methods when it comes to coaching a defence.

You are quoting a shit player like him, fuck me you are scraping the barrel there :D
I wasn't mentioning him to say he was a quality player, I was mentioning him because he offered an insight into what life is like as a defender at Arsenal.
How the fuck would he know, was one of the worst defenders ever at the Arsenal, he Did not have a clue about defending
Which begs the question why sign him ?

What qualities did Wenker see in him that made him believe, overall, that he would cut in the premiership and in Champions League football ?

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Cas, you're another one should should swear more :wink: :lol:

It is sickening to continually see The Old Fraud treated so differently by the media. He's almost a grandfatherly figure to them now, who is too respected to be questioned on all his bullshit and failure for the past 8-12 years. As BFG says, LVG is being slated for the similarly dull football that they play and the lack of any input from the touchline. Martinez is only now starting to be questioned - after taking mid-table Wigan down and lucking into another job - as the fans are now turning on him for his similarly frustrating attacking/'pretty' football with no defence or end product. The Old Fraud is tolerated by the press though, thanks to his constantly philosophising about everyone else's business in football, global politics, world peace, the EU referendum, dialectical materialism...

About the aliens landing, they'd have to go see our dictator, Arsene :roll:

I should have known this already, but I have seen that Wenger only won two trophies in seven years at Monaco; the league title in his first season (1987-88) and the French Cup in 1991. He was usually second or third in most of his time there (Yes, Marseille was bent in 1993, but still). Did he build that club too? He really has always been a nearly man, who was able to win something now and again or was fortunate to have the right players at the right time. Sadly, this old bastard is too miserable to retire.

And for those who care, it's 409 days to his current contract's expiry date on 31 May 2017. But you might as well add on 720 days to that :suicide:

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StuartL wrote:
Redarmy wrote:
BFG4 wrote:
Redarmy wrote:
BFG4 wrote:http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/14/arsenal-f ... y-5817059/ he was shit when he was at the club, but at least this reveals some of crackpots methods when it comes to coaching a defence.

You are quoting a shit player like him, fuck me you are scraping the barrel there :D
I wasn't mentioning him to say he was a quality player, I was mentioning him because he offered an insight into what life is like as a defender at Arsenal.
How the fuck would he know, was one of the worst defenders ever at the Arsenal, he Did not have a clue about defending
Which begs the question why listen to him ?

What qualities did Wenker see in him that made him believe, overall, that he would cut in the premiership and in Champions League football ?

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Sean wrote:Cas, you're another one should should swear more :wink: :lol:

It is sickening to continually see The Old Fraud treated so differently by the media. He's almost a grandfatherly figure to them now, who is too respected to be questioned on all his bullshit and failure for the past 8-12 years. As BFG says, LVG is being slated for the similarly dull football that they play and the lack of any input from the touchline. Martinez is only now starting to be questioned - after taking mid-table Wigan down and lucking into another job - as the fans are now turning on him for his similarly frustrating attacking/'pretty' football with no defence or end product. The Old Fraud is tolerated by the press though, thanks to his constantly philosophising about everyone else's business in football, global politics, world peace, the EU referendum, dialectical materialism...

About the aliens landing, they'd have to go see our dictator, Arsene :roll:

I should have known this already, but I have seen that Wenger only won two trophies in seven years at Monaco; the league title in his first season (1987-88) and the French Cup in 1991. He was usually second or third in most of his time there (Yes, Marseille was bent in 1993, but still). Did he build that club too? He really has always been a nearly man, who was able to win something now and again or was fortunate to have the right players at the right time. Sadly, this old bastard is too miserable to retire.

And for those who care, it's 409 days to his current contract's expiry date on 31 May 2017. But you might as well add on 720 days to that :suicide:
Ironic really that a few weeks back when a bunch of Everton supporters were asked the question about whether Arsenal fans should be getting on Wengers back they all said no, and careful what you wish for etc :banghead:

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Sorry mate cannot spin it so i am defending Squillaci a useless piece of shit, don't get me started on Wenker FFS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Redarmy wrote:
StuartL wrote:
Redarmy wrote:
BFG4 wrote:
Redarmy wrote:

You are quoting a shit player like him, fuck me you are scraping the barrel there :D
I wasn't mentioning him to say he was a quality player, I was mentioning him because he offered an insight into what life is like as a defender at Arsenal.
How the fuck would he know, was one of the worst defenders ever at the Arsenal, he Did not have a clue about defending
Which begs the question why listen to him ?

What qualities did Wenker see in him that made him believe, overall, that he would cut in the premiership and in Champions League football ?
Whether Squillaci was a crap defender or not is immaterial, it doesn't matter how good you are at something you can still tell if the person who is telling you what to do is clueless :roll:

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