Wenger Out protest thread

[Sidney]

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[armchair]

#WengerOut at the Wexford races.

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[xisstential]

Nick I support the Arsenal he is the manager,the fa cup has been de valued with the structure of the modern game but I treat it the same as I have always done and we are still in it so my season is not over yet ,

If he went at the end of the season It would not cause me any sleepless night ,I applaud those of you that have organised the protests but the social media circus is not for me

I suspect this view is probably the most common one in the stadium, I have certainly heard it quite a number of times.
Can't say I agree with it but I would certainly respect (that buzzword again) it.

Why do people feel the need to come on here and explain why they don't join the protests?? Did anybody on here come and ask them to? Imagine if every one of the thousands who couldn't be bothered felt the need to come on here and tell us why they don't support the protests?? Who cares!!

[Tollgoon]

It is good to get the other point of view, even though in most cases I think it compounds the problem of why Wonga is so embedded into the fabric of the business/ club. Leekie over on the home page is a wind up, but most of the posters on this thread taking a Wenger in stance have their reasoning and in some ways I can understand why. It's just that the scales fell from my eyes 10 years ago so that now every time Wonga speaks I analyse it in 2 ways. One is 2 fingers up to anyone who doesn't like his methods and the other, is what most of the bowl/ ticket buyers are happy to hear a and accept as a reasonable answer. Not for me.

[beck]

The real protest is when ST holders get that renewal form. If you want another two years of the same renew.If not boycott.Its that simple.No one puts a gun to your head.Its alright saying you want Wenger out but if you renew your ST you are voting with your £1500 for him to stay

I gave up my ST in 2010.Not one day since have i regreted it

Me too
End of the 11/12 season
Sad thing is after 41 years unbroken match going I don't miss it anywhere near as much as I expected
I have always said I would go on the waiting list again when wenger goes but I really don't miss laying out all that money
I kept my sons silver membership going after he became an adult so I can go when ever I want but have not used it at all this season.
The last game I went too was Leicester when my old season ticket mate gave me he's
Another false dawn

[beck]

Rob's posts sum up exactly the problem and why Wenger has been allowed to carry on as long as he has without discontent being voiced.

Going to the Emirates is a completely sanitised experience largely devoid of passion and for most people is comparable to a day at the theatre. So many people are more interested in talking about work, their kids, other games, their bets or fucking about on their phone.

And when was the last time that we had a shot at the title at the business end of the season? I remember what it was like in the last few months of 1998 and 2002 when the pressure was on and every win was absolutely monumental, every second of every game mattered. We just haven't had that excitement for so long and coupled with the demographic changes to the matchday going 'fan' the place just has no passion.

I would say 10/11 was the last time we were involved in the business end of the season
Sadly just like in 07/08
Wenger went into white flag waving mode
6 points behind united with 6 games to go and a game against them at home( the only game we ended up winning)
3-1 up at Spurs just before half time
Remembering days when you could put your mortgage on arsenal in that position have become a distant memory under wenger
Of coarse we conceded and ended up drawing
Dropped 13 out of 18 points all from teams outside the top 7
The form at the end of that season
Plus dropping 8 points before declaring the season starts here at the end of the transfer window
Then that continuing form into 11/12
To my mind he should have been sacked after that gutless display in October at Spurs
I wouldn't trust wenger to handle a business end anymore
He ain't neither the ability or the bollocks

[OneBardGooner]

#WengerOut at the Wexford races.

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Even if wenker does sign - THis must be kept going to the point where it becomes a bigger cult than he is.

[herbert]

Nick I support the Arsenal he is the manager,the fa cup has been de valued with the structure of the modern game but I treat it the same as I have always done and we are still in it so my season is not over yet ,

If he went at the end of the season It would not cause me any sleepless night ,I applaud those of you that have organised the protests but the social media circus is not for me

I suspect this view is probably the most common one in the stadium, I have certainly heard it quite a number of times.
Can't say I agree with it but I would certainly respect (that buzzword again) it.

Why do people feel the need to come on here and explain why they don't join the protests?? Did anybody on here come and ask them to? Imagine if every one of the thousands who couldn't be bothered felt the need to come on here and tell us why they don't support the protests?? Who cares!!

Did anybody on here come and ask them to?

Its the online gooner forum mate and no Arsenal supporter needs to be asked by you or anybody else if they want to post on here,even if you dont care

[Trevor Ross]

Rob's posts sum up exactly the problem and why Wenger has been allowed to carry on as long as he has without discontent being voiced.

Going to the Emirates is a completely sanitised experience largely devoid of passion and for most people is comparable to a day at the theatre. So many people are more interested in talking about work, their kids, other games, their bets or fucking about on their phone.

And when was the last time that we had a shot at the title at the business end of the season? I remember what it was like in the last few months of 1998 and 2002 when the pressure was on and every win was absolutely monumental, every second of every game mattered. We just haven't had that excitement for so long and coupled with the demographic changes to the matchday going 'fan' the place just has no passion.

I would say 10/11 was the last time we were involved in the business end of the season
Sadly just like in 07/08
Wenger went into white flag waving mode
6 points behind united with 6 games to go and a game against them at home( the only game we ended up winning)
3-1 up at Spurs just before half time
Remembering days when you could put your mortgage on arsenal in that position have become a distant memory under wenger
Of coarse we conceded and ended up drawing
Dropped 13 out of 18 points all from teams outside the top 7
The form at the end of that season
Plus dropping 8 points before declaring the season starts here at the end of the transfer window
Then that continuing form into 11/12
To my mind he should have been sacked after that gutless display in October at Spurs
I wouldn't trust wenger to handle a business end anymore
He ain't neither the ability or the bollocks

Agree with what you're saying mate but still wouldn't call 9 points adrift with a month to go being involved at the business end

[Sidney]

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[StuartL]

The real protest is when ST holders get that renewal form. If you want another two years of the same renew.If not boycott.Its that simple.No one puts a gun to your head.Its alright saying you want Wenger out but if you renew your ST you are voting with your £1500 for him to stay

I gave up my ST in 2010.Not one day since have i regreted it

Me too
End of the 11/12 season
Sad thing is after 41 years unbroken match going I don't miss it anywhere near as much as I expected
I have always said I would go on the waiting list again when wenger goes but I really don't miss laying out all that money
I kept my sons silver membership going after he became an adult so I can go when ever I want but have not used it at all this season.
The last game I went too was Leicester when my old season ticket mate gave me he's
Another false dawn

Mine’s going this year. I’ve been a season ticket holder since the days of standing on the North Bank, sitting in it, and now the bowl where we got seats in the same price category as we had in the North Bank but the view is nowhere near as good. I might have retained it if it had just the 19 league games on it but the additional cost with the cup credits pushes the price it up too much and the last few years of Champions League failures meant I had lost interest in it so I didn’t go to any games. I managed to sell PSG and Bayern on ticket exchange but the club took their fees off me, and as for the other two I put them up for sale but they weren’t taken so I was stuck with them. I now need the cash for personal reasons and £1000+ is a lot to pay out for more of the same. I had decided to just go to the category B & C games next season which would have meant no more Spurs, Chelsea etc. but if the fraud hasn’t gone by then I won’t be going to any.

Sidney, I fully understand your reasons, but please rather than just not renewing make the club aware of the reasons why.

It is only by letting them know the amount of dis satisfied match day experience go-ers, that are no longer prepared to tolerate the steaming pile of shite that is served up as caviar that they will acknowledge that anything is at all wrong.

An email, letter or phone call will work wonders

[beck]

The one thing that makes me laugh is the we want our Arsenal back,89 they fucked over the clockend ,92 the north bank with the talyor report,the success of GG team and Dein and the rest of the money men were rubbing there hands at the potential and then the euros took the game to more of the middle/upper classes,,before Wengers time.,in a nutshell The Arsenal ,my Arsenal and football was changing and changed why we were all to busy winning trophys.
and one more thing,i have never wanted A Arsenal manager sacked,not Neill he gave me the best time supporting the Arsenal with the cup runs as a teenage boy just starting to go to away games,many great memories,Don howe ,Arsenal in the blood but I watched the football so I understand why people wanted him out
modern football is a *word censored* and I could moan and groan about it every minute of the day,but then I thought why should I be so unhappy about something I love so much,and decided that i would watch with my bias Arsenal blinkers on and there getting bigger,im going to palace monday and want a win ,champions league in it to win it and another load of great trips with the good Arsenal people i travel with 2 wobs 1undecided and me so far up Arsenes arse i cant see the light,then on to Wembley and hopefully a win over city and we are 1 game away from a record 13 fa cups and my mate Arsenes 7 in 20 yrs,

so please excuse me for not joining the protests and the social media circus but the Arsenal and me have some big games coming up

When I want my arsenal back I want that progressive moving forward version of the club
That's the arsenal that I have always known
That is the exact reason why as much as I loved Highbury the move to the Emirates was the right one.
What ain't my arsenal is not trying to be the best they can be
It's totally unacceptable
I understand going into games hoping for defeat is totally anathema to a supporter
But it does seem that the only way to hit this set up is in the pocket
Shame on them all that it should have to enter supporters heads who love and care for the club.
Wenger should be gone if we won the fa cup and finished 3rd

[beck]

Rob's posts sum up exactly the problem and why Wenger has been allowed to carry on as long as he has without discontent being voiced.

Going to the Emirates is a completely sanitised experience largely devoid of passion and for most people is comparable to a day at the theatre. So many people are more interested in talking about work, their kids, other games, their bets or fucking about on their phone.

And when was the last time that we had a shot at the title at the business end of the season? I remember what it was like in the last few months of 1998 and 2002 when the pressure was on and every win was absolutely monumental, every second of every game mattered. We just haven't had that excitement for so long and coupled with the demographic changes to the matchday going 'fan' the place just has no passion.

I would say 10/11 was the last time we were involved in the business end of the season
Sadly just like in 07/08
Wenger went into white flag waving mode
6 points behind united with 6 games to go and a game against them at home( the only game we ended up winning)
3-1 up at Spurs just before half time
Remembering days when you could put your mortgage on arsenal in that position have become a distant memory under wenger
Of coarse we conceded and ended up drawing
Dropped 13 out of 18 points all from teams outside the top 7
The form at the end of that season
Plus dropping 8 points before declaring the season starts here at the end of the transfer window
Then that continuing form into 11/12
To my mind he should have been sacked after that gutless display in October at Spurs
I wouldn't trust wenger to handle a business end anymore
He ain't neither the ability or the bollocks

Agree with what you're saying mate but still wouldn't call 9 points adrift with a month to go being involved at the business end

We need a definition of business end then mate
I will take it as a month and keep looking back

[beck]

Rob's posts sum up exactly the problem and why Wenger has been allowed to carry on as long as he has without discontent being voiced.

Going to the Emirates is a completely sanitised experience largely devoid of passion and for most people is comparable to a day at the theatre. So many people are more interested in talking about work, their kids, other games, their bets or fucking about on their phone.

And when was the last time that we had a shot at the title at the business end of the season? I remember what it was like in the last few months of 1998 and 2002 when the pressure was on and every win was absolutely monumental, every second of every game mattered. We just haven't had that excitement for so long and coupled with the demographic changes to the matchday going 'fan' the place just has no passion.

I would say 10/11 was the last time we were involved in the business end of the season
Sadly just like in 07/08
Wenger went into white flag waving mode
6 points behind united with 6 games to go and a game against them at home( the only game we ended up winning)
3-1 up at Spurs just before half time
Remembering days when you could put your mortgage on arsenal in that position have become a distant memory under wenger
Of coarse we conceded and ended up drawing
Dropped 13 out of 18 points all from teams outside the top 7
The form at the end of that season
Plus dropping 8 points before declaring the season starts here at the end of the transfer window
Then that continuing form into 11/12
To my mind he should have been sacked after that gutless display in October at Spurs
I wouldn't trust wenger to handle a business end anymore
He ain't neither the ability or the bollocks

Agree with what you're saying mate but still wouldn't call 9 points adrift with a month to go being involved at the business end

We need a definition of business end then mate
I will take it as a month and keep looking back

Ok mate
Had another look and 07/08 is our last bona fide business end
Title challenge
We were 6 points behind with 5 games to go with a visit to old Trafford next
Just like at Chelsea we took the lead
Once again we failed to hold onto it
14 mins at Chelsea this time 4 mins( just like in the champs league at anfield that season) in game nous was poor.
We won every game after that finishing 4 points behind United
Had we held onto lead at old Trafford we would have had more points than Chelsea and United.
We had so many chances to recover from that draw at Birmingham
Wengers utter bollocks about the players being down and I don't know how I am going to lift them was a shocking message
It should have read away point on a difficult day onwards and upwards to the title
We lost something that day he has never ever got back
He probably deserved chance to put it right after that because of what he had achieved previously but 3 years was borderline generous
9 is fucking criminal

[armchair]

Spurs fan at WHL.