As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
SteveO 35 wrote:Nice to see TH14 piling in saying that the fans were wrong to stay away
Henry is a fucking hypocrite who would not have stuck around more than a season at a club with such little ambition.
He classes himself as a fan but he is more interested in giving Jamie Redknapp a reacharound.
Like I said i haven't heard much fawning or sycophany from the two Invincibles actually interested in making a career out of football - Bergkamp and Vieira. Still they must obviously have an "agenda".
SteveO 35 wrote:Nice to see TH14 piling in saying that the fans were wrong to stay away
The irony and what they can't seem to understand amongst the media and former players is that if we were 1st or 2nd in a close fight for the league then last night it would have been a full stadium with most fans raising the roof (hopefully) immaterial of it being a Thursday night and 'problems on the Piccadily line'.
The ground was probably only 3/4s full last night. For me it was because the clubs only ambition appears to be maintaining the CL spot and a lot the fans are fed up with it, 12 years of VTs might as well be 12 years of mid-table mediocrity because there are no bragging rights for a VT no matter how the media and former players try to spin it, i can't remember ever speaking to a fan from another club who was celebrating a VT the way some of ours do
It's taken a lot of time for some fans to come round but there are an increasing number of fans who finally seem to realising what many of us have known for years and it is at last being picked up by some of the mainstream media, unfortunately i think it is too little too late to make any difference.
He'll be here next season spouting the usual crap, making the same mistakes and the media will be back to expecting us to lap it up once again and if i'm truly honest with myself i expect him to be still here in 2020
Robin_L wrote:Standard reaction to the reaction once again, this one from the BBC comments section:-
"I support a non-league club and we are in the process of being relegated. I've attended every home league game and the last one is tomorrow. Those who chose to stay away last night aren't proper supporters. They can protest all they like, but nobody has a divine right to success - look at Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City all of who have struggled in the league. Shut up and back your club!"
But they haven't struggled for 12 years have they Dumbo?? Fuck, people are THICK!!
I love the small club mongies who come out with the "they should try following Bury / Rochdale / Morecambe" type shit. "What we'd give to be in Champions League every year"
Yeah and fans of teams at the bottom of the Conference would like to be where Morecambe are, and teams in the North & South conferences would like to be there, and teams in the Northern Premier would like to be there......and most of us playing for the Dog and Duck would like to be there you fucking retards
Presumably they don't pay as much as Arsenal fans.
EC3 wrote:Henry lecturing fans what they should or shouldn't do?
Makes me die coming from a player who left the club. So he should advise fans who spend money following the club.
A player who left the club after only two years of having to endure the 4th placed trophy. Seemed to remember he fucked off pretty quickly once he realised TO1AW was treading on the same rake over and over again. Nearly a decade later he seems to have a selective memory
EC3 wrote:Henry lecturing fans what they should or shouldn't do?
Makes me die coming from a player who left the club. So he should advise fans who spend money following the club.
A player who left the club after only two years of having to endure the 4th placed trophy. Seemed to remember he fucked off pretty quickly once he realised TO1AW was treading on the same rake over and over again. Nearly a decade later he seems to have a selective memory
I love TH14 but shit like this makes me lose respect for him day by day.
EC3 wrote:Henry lecturing fans what they should or shouldn't do?
Makes me die coming from a player who left the club. So he should advise fans who spend money following the club.
A player who left the club after only two years of having to endure the 4th placed trophy. Seemed to remember he fucked off pretty quickly once he realised TO1AW was treading on the same rake over and over again. Nearly a decade later he seems to have a selective memory
Blood_Gooner wrote:I think I've reached the point of totally detaching myself from The Arsenal in entirety. It's a terrible situation with no end in sight. The old fraud is under zero pressure and will be here next season and until at least 2020, after he inks a new 3 year contract which there can be doubt will be offered.
Absolutely nothing will change. We will scramble more 3rd / 4th finishes which will keep wenker and legions of worshipping throngs, the board and Stan all happy. The hoardings in the bank have boiled down to catch 22 situation, as we all know its sole purpose is for transfers - which we've long been crying for in certain key areas; but then the old fraud cannot be trusted to spend it in a manner which will improve us. He will either use it to buy dross or acquire top talent which he'll completely mismanage.
It's fucking dire. No one could have imagined going from 'The Invincibles' to an utterly unambitious football club whose only aim is profit gorging. We need a change from the top down. Sadly, I just can't envisage that happening anytime soon. We've been afflicted by the Kroenke cancer. There's papa Stan at helm with junior Josh lying in wait to take over. We have the Board which allowed on board the foregoing cancers. Then we have the old fraud who has been given a free reign to do whatever the fuck he pleases as long as he keeps the Club at the "top" of English football. He'll be sure to handpick his successor to continue his model and misguided philosophy.
A proper mess indeed. Just look at spuds launching a proper assault on the title yet there isn't a hint of shame from wenker or anyone at the Club. We have a coterie of players who know they've hit a lottery jackpot signing on for us, so they happily go along for the ride. Not one will bow his head in shame. Instead, cue more locker room selfies when the holy grail is secured. They are part of the utterly fraudulent regime. Hope is all but gone. The only silver lining is that all things, good and bad, must come to an end and I hope to be around when it all comes crashing down for the repulsive *word censored* who've stolen the Club from its core fans.
FREDDIE LJUNGBERG last night stuck the boot into Arsenal - revealing he quit because they have no chance of winning the title or European honours.
In a damning verdict on the troubled Gunners, Ljungberg said he moved to West Ham - because they have more ambition.
The Swede said: "Two years ago, when I signed my last contract, we talked a lot about the future and whether we were going to be bringing in a lot of big players.
Arsenal claimed that despite building a new stadium we were going to stay top in England and top in Europe. For me, that really hasn't happened.
"There were always clubs wanting to buy me every summer and I always stayed loyal - I wanted to do it with Arsenal.
"But this summer if felt like the end, unfortunately."
While rivals Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool have been reinforcing significantly, Arsene Wenger is preparing to take them on with his kids plus unproven signings Eduardo da Silva and Bacary Sagna.
Ljungberg believes Arsenal will live to regret their stance - and warned: "You definitely need experience.
"The Premiership is the most difficult league in Europe to win. Of course you need youth as well to have the willingness and the hunger. But you need experience to lead the young people''.
Arsenal's biggest shareholder Danny Fiszman insisted again he has "no intention" of selling his 24 per cent stake with speculation mounting that billionaire Stan Kroenke is set to launch a takeover bid at the Emirates Stadium.
EC3 wrote:Henry lecturing fans what they should or shouldn't do?
Makes me die coming from a player who left the club. So he should advise fans who spend money following the club.
The worse part is, that in his 8 years here, he either won a trophy or reached a final every year, that's a pretty successful. Yet, as soon as we stopped challenging for the title, he fucked off. A guy who didn't accept top 4 finishes as good enough, but thinks the fans should.
No one seems to be listening to the fans. Wenger, the board, even the media and former greats, seem intent on defining what we should accept as good enough.
This is how revolution starts, when the elitist assume they know whats good for the populace, rather than actually listening.
Another thing, is lets debate with the actual facts. Wenger is not on a limited budget, our wage bill is 190m, City's is 192m, Man United is 200m, and Chelsea 215m.
EC3 wrote:Henry lecturing fans what they should or shouldn't do?
Makes me die coming from a player who left the club. So he should advise fans who spend money following the club.
The worse part is, that in his 8 years here, he either won a trophy or reached a final every year, that's a pretty successful. Yet, as soon as we stopped challenging for the title, he fucked off. A guy who didn't accept top 4 finishes as good enough, but thinks the fans should.
In fairness from the little i read Henry seems to be saying still go to the games and support the team but protest afterwards, that is his opinion, fair enough.......
As one of the greatest players ever at the Arsenal still respect the guy and think he will return as manager one day
Wilson wrote:No one seems to be listening to the fans. Wenger, the board, even the media and former greats, seem intent on defining what we should accept as good enough.
This is how revolution starts, when the elitist assume they know whats good for the populace, rather than actually listening.
Another thing, is lets debate with the actual facts. Wenger is not on a limited budget, our wage bill is 190m, City's is 192m, Man United is 200m, and Chelsea 215m.
Are you having laugh mate...WENGER????? listening......he is in a world of his own, like Czar Nicholas ignoring the stirrings of revolution in 1917
You can understand, then, why fans are protesting against Wenger.
I’m not saying I condone that — absolutely not — and I hate seeing banners unfurled that criticise a manager. They are embarrassing but a message on one at the Emirates is revealing.
It reads: ‘This is Arsenal Football Club not Arsene Football Club’. They feel Wenger is acting as if it is his club rather than him being just an employee. It also shows how stretched the bond between the manager and fans has become. It’s hard to escape the feeling that the end is approaching.
I don’t take any pleasure in writing this. Wenger is one of my favourite people in football, a genius who has brought so much to our game. We will never forget the Invincibles, the best Premier League side I played against.
Even now, when you see him under attack in press conferences, Wenger never loses his composure. He is a class act, plain and simple. It is why, if the end is approaching, I hope he gets to go on his own terms because I hate the thought of him continuing to receive so much stick.
Wenger should get the final year of his contract because there is no standout candidate available to come straight in.
Atletico Madrid’s Diego Simeone would be the highest-profile target but he and Wenger are chalk and cheese. I love what Simeone has done but Atletico are the most defensive team in Europe. For him to come in now would require a total change in culture at Arsenal.
No, Wenger has earned one more year. He deserves the opportunity to finish his reign in style.
The reason Wenger keeps his composure when under attack is because he NEVER really gets "attacked"
And as for him "finishing in style" in other words another top 4 for him, another 8 mill for him and another year of misery for us. TERRIFIC, can't wait!!
