THE WENGER THREAD
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http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 34721.html
“The two turning [point] games were [defeats to] Man Utd and Swansea,” he said. “We had many injuries as well and this season, for the first time, they were injuries where we couldn’t do a lot about it".
He is putting our performance against the weakest United side in Premier league history down to injuries?
Unbelievable.
“The two turning [point] games were [defeats to] Man Utd and Swansea,” he said. “We had many injuries as well and this season, for the first time, they were injuries where we couldn’t do a lot about it".
He is putting our performance against the weakest United side in Premier league history down to injuries?
Unbelievable.
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Atletico Madrid and Simeone again refuse to make excuses for themselves, and take it to Bayern after previously beating Barcelona.
What do our sorry lot say? Oh thats right. 'Its Bayern - what did you expect '. 'Its Barcelona - what did you expect'. I guess the answer is obvious......nothing. With Wenger as manager, you expect nothing.
What do our sorry lot say? Oh thats right. 'Its Bayern - what did you expect '. 'Its Barcelona - what did you expect'. I guess the answer is obvious......nothing. With Wenger as manager, you expect nothing.
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leaving aside the protest etc for a minute I think the most worrying thing that Wenger has come out with in the past week is that he has again stated that Champions League money is not required from next season.
To put the new TV deal in context Leicester City will earn £92m for winning the PL this season and yet earn £100m if they finish bottom next season
Wenger has stated in the past week
"What has changed over the years is that the impact of the finances in the Champions League is not as big anymore"
"It was vital for us for a period"
Basically whereas Wenger would have been under pressure in recent years for not finishing top 4 will Kroenke really be bothered in the future?
I certainly do not see why Kroenke would make hiring an expensive new manager a priority. Wenger is already doing a great job of reducing expectations at the club, when the long standing season ticket holders are got rid of those expectations can be reduced further.
This is why I think the protest on Saturday is right to be about Kroenke and Wenger, because by removing Wenger things are not going to suddenly get a lot better whilst this American leech is still in power.
To put the new TV deal in context Leicester City will earn £92m for winning the PL this season and yet earn £100m if they finish bottom next season

Wenger has stated in the past week
"What has changed over the years is that the impact of the finances in the Champions League is not as big anymore"
"It was vital for us for a period"
Basically whereas Wenger would have been under pressure in recent years for not finishing top 4 will Kroenke really be bothered in the future?
I certainly do not see why Kroenke would make hiring an expensive new manager a priority. Wenger is already doing a great job of reducing expectations at the club, when the long standing season ticket holders are got rid of those expectations can be reduced further.
This is why I think the protest on Saturday is right to be about Kroenke and Wenger, because by removing Wenger things are not going to suddenly get a lot better whilst this American leech is still in power.
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As I put in my final paragraph in the protest forum, Wenger is compliant to Stans philosophy, lets oust Wenger and then see if Stan can find a replacement prepared to sacrifice his football ambitions to satisfy Stans financial ambitions.
It cost £8m per season to buy Wengers loyalty.
Pep, Maureen, Klop, Simeone, certainly none of these are going to bend over and get greased up for Stan, they are all in it for trophies.
It cost £8m per season to buy Wengers loyalty.
Pep, Maureen, Klop, Simeone, certainly none of these are going to bend over and get greased up for Stan, they are all in it for trophies.
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Good post, mate. I've always said Kroenke has to go as well as Wenger. Sure, Wenger is the priority, but Mediocrity Stan is a cancer in our club and we will never take the step to the next level whilst he owns us.Gunner Rob wrote:leaving aside the protest etc for a minute I think the most worrying thing that Wenger has come out with in the past week is that he has again stated that Champions League money is not required from next season.
To put the new TV deal in context Leicester City will earn £92m for winning the PL this season and yet earn £100m if they finish bottom next season![]()
Wenger has stated in the past week
"What has changed over the years is that the impact of the finances in the Champions League is not as big anymore"
"It was vital for us for a period"
Basically whereas Wenger would have been under pressure in recent years for not finishing top 4 will Kroenke really be bothered in the future?
I certainly do not see why Kroenke would make hiring an expensive new manager a priority. Wenger is already doing a great job of reducing expectations at the club, when the long standing season ticket holders are got rid of those expectations can be reduced further.
This is why I think the protest on Saturday is right to be about Kroenke and Wenger, because by removing Wenger things are not going to suddenly get a lot better whilst this American leech is still in power.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36151658
Good interview with Eniola Aluko on bbc sport.
Ranieri showing up Wenger
Ranieri is a great example of how the psychology of a manager is tantamount to the performance of the players and although it's a contrasting case, I think it's also evident with the Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger.
Here is a team cast as perennial runners-up to the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City, and yet in a season where they have all faltered, Leicester and Tottenham have usurped the Gunners relegating them to their usual fight for fourth place.
Their plight reminds me of a cutting message that our manager Emma Hayes delivered after we lost 4-0 to Sunderland last season. After an unbeaten first half of our season, she was concerned complacency may stuff up a title challenge for a second consecutive season so she reminded us of a quote which said: "The first mistake is a lesson, the second is a choice".
Successful managers have to be ruthless in ridding their team of complacency and while Ranieri has backed his team publicly all season, there have been several stories proving that he doesn't indulge his players. I'm not sure the same can be said of Wenger.
Newly-crowned PFA Player of the Year Mahrez admitted earlier in the season that despite all his goals and assists, he feared being withdrawn from the team if he didn't do his defensive duties, while Danny Simpson has said Ranieri sits him down and shows him in minute detail where he wants his right-back to stand while defending in each game.
You can't tell me that Arsenal's squad is weaker than Leicester's yet there is a psychological barrier which I think emanates from the manager. They seem to lack backbone in pressure games each season and yet Wenger seems to let his team get away with it. Is he challenging the players psychologically in the dressing room or just allowing them to make the same mistakes?
Whatever is happening, they are getting the same results and the clubs seems content with only reaching the top four, a story repeated over the past 10 seasons. To me, that's a choice.
underlined exactly what our players dont seem to experience.
Good interview with Eniola Aluko on bbc sport.
Ranieri showing up Wenger
Ranieri is a great example of how the psychology of a manager is tantamount to the performance of the players and although it's a contrasting case, I think it's also evident with the Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger.
Here is a team cast as perennial runners-up to the likes of Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City, and yet in a season where they have all faltered, Leicester and Tottenham have usurped the Gunners relegating them to their usual fight for fourth place.
Their plight reminds me of a cutting message that our manager Emma Hayes delivered after we lost 4-0 to Sunderland last season. After an unbeaten first half of our season, she was concerned complacency may stuff up a title challenge for a second consecutive season so she reminded us of a quote which said: "The first mistake is a lesson, the second is a choice".
Successful managers have to be ruthless in ridding their team of complacency and while Ranieri has backed his team publicly all season, there have been several stories proving that he doesn't indulge his players. I'm not sure the same can be said of Wenger.
Newly-crowned PFA Player of the Year Mahrez admitted earlier in the season that despite all his goals and assists, he feared being withdrawn from the team if he didn't do his defensive duties, while Danny Simpson has said Ranieri sits him down and shows him in minute detail where he wants his right-back to stand while defending in each game.
You can't tell me that Arsenal's squad is weaker than Leicester's yet there is a psychological barrier which I think emanates from the manager. They seem to lack backbone in pressure games each season and yet Wenger seems to let his team get away with it. Is he challenging the players psychologically in the dressing room or just allowing them to make the same mistakes?
Whatever is happening, they are getting the same results and the clubs seems content with only reaching the top four, a story repeated over the past 10 seasons. To me, that's a choice.
underlined exactly what our players dont seem to experience.
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I agree up to a point but I still think getting rid of Wenger FIRST is the priority. We'll struggle to do that, never mind both of them together. Also if we had a better manager I believe he would get a lot more out of our current squad, without even spending any more money. A decent manager & we would have probably won the title this year. Problem is now even if we force Wenger out, what ambitious manager is going to want to work for a man who stated publicly that winnng trophies is not a priority???.Gunner Rob wrote:leaving aside the protest etc for a minute I think the most worrying thing that Wenger has come out with in the past week is that he has again stated that Champions League money is not required from next season.
To put the new TV deal in context Leicester City will earn £92m for winning the PL this season and yet earn £100m if they finish bottom next season![]()
Wenger has stated in the past week
"What has changed over the years is that the impact of the finances in the Champions League is not as big anymore"
"It was vital for us for a period"
Basically whereas Wenger would have been under pressure in recent years for not finishing top 4 will Kroenke really be bothered in the future?
I certainly do not see why Kroenke would make hiring an expensive new manager a priority. Wenger is already doing a great job of reducing expectations at the club, when the long standing season ticket holders are got rid of those expectations can be reduced further.
This is why I think the protest on Saturday is right to be about Kroenke and Wenger, because by removing Wenger things are not going to suddenly get a lot better whilst this American leech is still in power.
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DB10GOONER wrote:That would be SPUDDY then.Perryashburtongroves wrote:I got one and thought it must have been somebody trying to gay me up.augie wrote:SteveO 35 wrote:Yep, same here !rodders999 wrote:Apologies can't be arsed to start a new thread but did anyone else get hit up by PM today getting offered to write for some website?
Think I'm being groomed again.
I got one of those e-mails too and it told me that they would get their editor to contact me if I was willing to write for them![]()
To be honest I thought that it was a piss take from some of our mods (am thinking mainly db10, spuddy and flash) trying to get back at me for posting on their locked thread![]()
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It's not the gay reference that concerns me, it's the suggestion that I would have the slightest fucking clue as to how to do anything with IT. I assure you that you'll never meet a bigger technophobe than me.


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He's now like a cornered rat and he's going to try everything and anything to escape. Anyone who dares question the cretinous parasite from here in will be met with spin, lies, contempt and disinformation. Don't let the snivelling, sneaky, deceitful, vermin piece of s.hit off the hook now, grind the bastard into the dirt.
Christ how I detest him
Christ how I detest him

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When Bayern and Barca draw Atletico, they grimace and groan.Wilson wrote:Atletico Madrid and Simeone again refuse to make excuses for themselves, and take it to Bayern after previously beating Barcelona.
What do our sorry lot say? Oh thats right. 'Its Bayern - what did you expect '. 'Its Barcelona - what did you expect'. I guess the answer is obvious......nothing. With Wenger as manager, you expect nothing.
When they draw Arsenal they throw around high fives and sport big grins.
Tells you all you need to know.
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Wenger has stated in the past week
"What has changed over the years is that the impact of the finances in the Champions League is not as big anymore"
"It was vital for us for a period
He really is shameless. Obviously worried about scraping into 4th this season so he's now preparing us for "it doesn't matter, it's not as big anymore"
But then if we do get 4th he'll be telling EVERYBODY how important it is. Duplicitous, shameless conman.
"What has changed over the years is that the impact of the finances in the Champions League is not as big anymore"
"It was vital for us for a period
He really is shameless. Obviously worried about scraping into 4th this season so he's now preparing us for "it doesn't matter, it's not as big anymore"
But then if we do get 4th he'll be telling EVERYBODY how important it is. Duplicitous, shameless conman.
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Gunner Rob wrote:leaving aside the protest etc for a minute I think the most worrying thing that Wenger has come out with in the past week is that he has again stated that Champions League money is not required from next season.
To put the new TV deal in context Leicester City will earn £92m for winning the PL this season and yet earn £100m if they finish bottom next season![]()
Wenger has stated in the past week
"What has changed over the years is that the impact of the finances in the Champions League is not as big anymore"
"It was vital for us for a period"
Basically whereas Wenger would have been under pressure in recent years for not finishing top 4 will Kroenke really be bothered in the future?
I certainly do not see why Kroenke would make hiring an expensive new manager a priority. Wenger is already doing a great job of reducing expectations at the club, when the long standing season ticket holders are got rid of those expectations can be reduced further.
This is why I think the protest on Saturday is right to be about Kroenke and Wenger, because by removing Wenger things are not going to suddenly get a lot better whilst this American leech is still in power.
Not saying that it will, but it COULD work both ways - for years we have been told the it would be too big of a risk getting rid of the senile c.unt in case we miss out on the top 4, but now the man himself says it isn't a big deal so we have no real need for him to stay, and it would lift the pressure on the new manager too


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No footballing ambitions whatsoever. I mean it's now more obvious than ever, right? You don't have to frown anymore from watching the spineless theater unfolding on the pitch, it is being stated bluntly from the men in charge. So who's going to continue following the Arsenal financial club?
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After a decade of being spoon-fed the company line that top 4, and Champion’s League qualification, was the most important trophy, Wenger now says that it’s not as important because of the TV deal?xisstential wrote:Wenger has stated in the past week
"What has changed over the years is that the impact of the finances in the Champions League is not as big anymore"
"It was vital for us for a period
He really is shameless. Obviously worried about scraping into 4th this season so he's now preparing us for "it doesn't matter, it's not as big anymore"
But then if we do get 4th he'll be telling EVERYBODY how important it is. Duplicitous, shameless conman.

The bloke moves the goalposts so often it's not true. How can he keep track of what is actual fact when every day a new load of bollocks, which explicitly contradicts some shit or other he previously spouted, spills from his lips?
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Keown again, answering his weekly questions with his weekly bullshit.
My Sportsmail colleague Jamie Carragher says that if Arsene Wenger wants to leave after next season he should announce that before the season starts. That could be his course of action but it may not be conducive for players like Sanchez and Ozil who may be looking at signing new deals.
A lot of the fans no longer want Wenger but I’m sure the players would have a different view
Oh I'm sure they would Martin because a different manager might actually demand a return from them for their obscene wages
My Sportsmail colleague Jamie Carragher says that if Arsene Wenger wants to leave after next season he should announce that before the season starts. That could be his course of action but it may not be conducive for players like Sanchez and Ozil who may be looking at signing new deals.
A lot of the fans no longer want Wenger but I’m sure the players would have a different view
Oh I'm sure they would Martin because a different manager might actually demand a return from them for their obscene wages