THE WENGER THREAD

[casgooner]

Yesterday showed how embarrassing our fan-base is. Wenger openly insults the fans, and yet the majority in the ground still back him. I was sceptical as to whether any form of protest would make a difference, and now it's clear, it won't. Despite every disrespectful thing that Wenger has done this season, despite not challenging for the title again, the majority of fans still back him also, a special mention for sky, who proved what a bunch of wankers they are. They tried to belittle the protest as much as they could, and yet they will happily slag off the club, when it suits them.

My husband is not a massive football fan and earlier in the season when folks phoning football phone-ins were saying that Arsenal can't be that bad, top four every year, wish we were that bad etc .he stated that perhaps they did have a point. However, after all the comments Wenger has made about ticket prices and the fans, even he realises that Wenger is an arrogant plonker and should leave. (For years he has recognised our lightweight players though, asking if a player was injured because they broke a nail or had a hair out of place!

[Sean]

Meh, we were always on a hiding to nothing once the fan groups hijacked the message. It's no surprise that Cashburton is AKB central.

Still, I think that ANY protest inside the bowl is a success. This is just the first step.

We must keep up pressure on the club if we are to stop the contract extension.

[falkirk goon]

Still and always will be 100% against

[Ikechukwu1]

All yesterday's events did were to confirm that my decision to not give this ghastly swindling corporation that masquerades as a football club any more of my money, was the correct decision. Empty seats and embarrassing lack of support is what will hit them most.

I don't think the protest was a failure actually far from it. I think it was as decent as could be expected.

Having said all that, I've been convinced for some time that the biggest problem at Arsenal are the fans. I was a regular at Highbury and nostalgia aside; the fans over there were opinionated. The Emirates troupe we now have are spineless. It's not just that they're pussies - they have zero passion.

I would actively like anybody to consider what the consequences would be if a Liverpool manager ever spoke of the fans in the manner Lord A-Hole did? They'd drown him in the Mersey.

Arsene Wenger has been allowed to become more powerful than Arsenal FC and the fans are 100% responsible for this shocking situation.

Forget what the apologists say - the power is and always will be, in the hands of the fans. Tv deal or not, if they decide to bury a manager he's gone. I'm not surprised that we heard chants of "TO1AW" yesterday. The club is dead.

In 2008 I went to a cup game at the Emirates and sat in club level. There's a mural in there called "Arsene's firsts". Back at the time I was mystified as to how a manager who's never won a European cup could have s whole wall dedicated to him? It had stuff like "first manager to win in the Bernabeu"

The Invincibles is a double edged sword. Great as it was, it's now given Wenker lifetime immunity. I would honestly rather it never happened because that confirmed the death of our club.

You honestly still have several people who will renew without questions and then claim "someone else will jump in and take my place" contrary to all evidence of the plethora of empty seats and apathy around the club.

Arsenal fans in the Emirates are passionless which is why this has gone on so long. When Wenker was on the ropes in 2008, Red Action had their Mardi Gras and rescued him. Yet these same mugs who took money from the club are supposed to be Marxist Guevaran revolutionaries now there to help overthrow this corrupt system. Utter farce.

I think for his next trick Wenker should take a half time shit in the centre circle and then tell the world that he couldn't find anything better to play in midfield and that people without 30 years experience should shut up. His mongs will defend the decision, no doubt. It's thoroughly insane, depressing and unsurprising.

Arsenal FC has been hijacked by Wenger and a group of arrivistes who enjoyed double success of 98 and suddenly are convinced a big club that achieved loads in the past, starts and ends with Wenker.

Arsene Wenger has turned what is a huge club into a small-time farce. The bar at Arsenal could not possibly get any lower. Off the top of my head?

* Leicester win the league but that's absolutely acceptable, because other teams were shit

* We got bank loans for the stadium only due to Wenker. Oddly enough, you never hear that Bayern and Juve new grounds were down to their managers, in the same way Pochettino won't be held responsible for Spuds new ground. The FANS are responsible for that space-dome, the ones who packed out Highbury and stood by the club for years before Wenker and his North Korean arrivistes turned up.
Our history got us funding for the Emirates - yet this prick makes out we are so small-time no bank would have lent us two bob without him

* This season I heard Wenker say 2 weeks ago about the title "let us not dream". There right Gooners. Pay over £1500 a season, sit in silence, watch Kroenke take out £3m a year but don't you dare "dream" if overhauling Leicester and Spuds

* Wenker has made out the club was fighting for survival when moving to Emirates. His salary went up on hugely with two new contracts after the stadium move, whilst our wage bill back then was much bigger than Leicester's is now! Go figure.

* And of course he built the club and it's the fans' fault he's failed.

All of the above is to me, the equivalent of Dario Gradi keeping wee little Crewe Alexandra single-handedly on life support. You wouldn't think it's one of the richest clubs in the world with the biggest cash reserves anywhere in Europe and a wage bill on par with Citeh

It's absolutely disgusting what Lord A-Hole was done to this great club but the biggest crime is the collection of spineless morons who have allowed him to get bigger than the club. It's unforgivable.

Arsenal is a huge club being run into the ground by a small piece of shit with a napoleonic complex. He's aware he is an incompetent buffoon but his dictatorial obsession means he won't ever let go.

People can talk about Kroenke all they want and there's no doubt his failure is inaction of not sacking him. However having an unambitious owner isn't an excuse for a gutless loser manager. The Glazers have no ambition but that never stopped Fergie. The Liverpool owners were hawking that club around when Rafa won them the CL in 2005. Real Madrid is run like a circus by Florentino Perez and despite three months of being rumoured with the sack Ancelotti won then a CL.
Some of these owners are ambitious like Madrid sure - but the point is Wenger works in pristine conditions that just managers would kill for: total control, no interference, huge resources, power to work in peace. And yet the excuses continue.

Wenker is on board meetings. Kroenke has never denied him a penny. If you subbed Wenker out and brought in Pep, Ancelotti, Klopp, Pochettino, Low, Simeone, Luis Enrique or even Zidane this current squad it would be in far superior shape. No question.

Even as the years of insurmountable evidence tally up you continue to see mongs in their numbers.

Morons defending Giroud. He "carried us" apparently. A donkey who dared to cup his ear to the fans last night. What had he achieved? Winner in the Nou Camp in a CL semi? A hat-trick at Old Trafford? Errrr no. A knock-down at home to Norwich in a one-goal scrape. He's on £120k a week and hasn't scored for almost HALF a season. But he sees his inept manager disrespect the fans so why shouldn't he? We all know about the fact he buys silence of garbage choir boys like Walcott, Rosicky, Gibbs etc...

Meanwhile we will continue to watch Sanchez, Ozil, Cesc, Nasri, RVP walk out.

We had fans on here going to watch Barca turn up to the Emirates and happily paid £90 a ticket whilst expecting nothing from the home team.

The whole situation is diabolical and I never thought that after 32 years of support I would say this but I'm Out. Done. Finished.

It is no longer the club I grew up supporting and beyond that, the fanbase is now permeated by absolute plankton. Molluscs.

For a club to be successful, the fans, manager and board need to pull in the same direction. Leicester is a great example of that this season.

At Arsenal, every summer with Wenker at the helm is a guarantee that Arsenal fans can't dream and can't hope. While 19 other clubs can.

Well, fuck Wenger, fuck that troupe of arriviste Wenker fanboys. They can keep the club forever.

To the rest of you, the real fans who are distraught by all this and still fight the fight, all the best of luck to you all.

Over and OUT.

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Guys, cheer up a bit! This was first ever protest in Emirates and at least I'm proud of those people who raised their protest banners. This has to be keep going and more people will join in to this movement because this malaise will continue next season as well. The fans will ultimately hound him out and that's why this has to continue in every possible way and place.

Let's think this as a start for much bigger things to come. COYG!

[scotgooner]

All yesterday's events did were to confirm that my decision to not give this ghastly swindling corporation that masquerades as a football club any more of my money, was the correct decision. Empty seats and embarrassing lack of support is what will hit them most.

I don't think the protest was a failure actually far from it. I think it was as decent as could be expected.

Having said all that, I've been convinced for some time that the biggest problem at Arsenal are the fans. I was a regular at Highbury and nostalgia aside; the fans over there were opinionated. The Emirates troupe we now have are spineless. It's not just that they're pussies - they have zero passion.

I would actively like anybody to consider what the consequences would be if a Liverpool manager ever spoke of the fans in the manner Lord A-Hole did? They'd drown him in the Mersey.

Arsene Wenger has been allowed to become more powerful than Arsenal FC and the fans are 100% responsible for this shocking situation.

Forget what the apologists say - the power is and always will be, in the hands of the fans. Tv deal or not, if they decide to bury a manager he's gone. I'm not surprised that we heard chants of "TO1AW" yesterday. The club is dead.

In 2008 I went to a cup game at the Emirates and sat in club level. There's a mural in there called "Arsene's firsts". Back at the time I was mystified as to how a manager who's never won a European cup could have s whole wall dedicated to him? It had stuff like "first manager to win in the Bernabeu"

The Invincibles is a double edged sword. Great as it was, it's now given Wenker lifetime immunity. I would honestly rather it never happened because that confirmed the death of our club.

You honestly still have several people who will renew without questions and then claim "someone else will jump in and take my place" contrary to all evidence of the plethora of empty seats and apathy around the club.

Arsenal fans in the Emirates are passionless which is why this has gone on so long. When Wenker was on the ropes in 2008, Red Action had their Mardi Gras and rescued him. Yet these same mugs who took money from the club are supposed to be Marxist Guevaran revolutionaries now there to help overthrow this corrupt system. Utter farce.

I think for his next trick Wenker should take a half time shit in the centre circle and then tell the world that he couldn't find anything better to play in midfield and that people without 30 years experience should shut up. His mongs will defend the decision, no doubt. It's thoroughly insane, depressing and unsurprising.

Arsenal FC has been hijacked by Wenger and a group of arrivistes who enjoyed double success of 98 and suddenly are convinced a big club that achieved loads in the past, starts and ends with Wenker.

Arsene Wenger has turned what is a huge club into a small-time farce. The bar at Arsenal could not possibly get any lower. Off the top of my head?

* Leicester win the league but that's absolutely acceptable, because other teams were shit

* We got bank loans for the stadium only due to Wenker. Oddly enough, you never hear that Bayern and Juve new grounds were down to their managers, in the same way Pochettino won't be held responsible for Spuds new ground. The FANS are responsible for that space-dome, the ones who packed out Highbury and stood by the club for years before Wenker and his North Korean arrivistes turned up.
Our history got us funding for the Emirates - yet this prick makes out we are so small-time no bank would have lent us two bob without him

* This season I heard Wenker say 2 weeks ago about the title "let us not dream". There right Gooners. Pay over £1500 a season, sit in silence, watch Kroenke take out £3m a year but don't you dare "dream" if overhauling Leicester and Spuds

* Wenker has made out the club was fighting for survival when moving to Emirates. His salary went up on hugely with two new contracts after the stadium move, whilst our wage bill back then was much bigger than Leicester's is now! Go figure.

* And of course he built the club and it's the fans' fault he's failed.

All of the above is to me, the equivalent of Dario Gradi keeping wee little Crewe Alexandra single-handedly on life support. You wouldn't think it's one of the richest clubs in the world with the biggest cash reserves anywhere in Europe and a wage bill on par with Citeh

It's absolutely disgusting what Lord A-Hole was done to this great club but the biggest crime is the collection of spineless morons who have allowed him to get bigger than the club. It's unforgivable.

Arsenal is a huge club being run into the ground by a small piece of shit with a napoleonic complex. He's aware he is an incompetent buffoon but his dictatorial obsession means he won't ever let go.

People can talk about Kroenke all they want and there's no doubt his failure is inaction of not sacking him. However having an unambitious owner isn't an excuse for a gutless loser manager. The Glazers have no ambition but that never stopped Fergie. The Liverpool owners were hawking that club around when Rafa won them the CL in 2005. Real Madrid is run like a circus by Florentino Perez and despite three months of being rumoured with the sack Ancelotti won then a CL.
Some of these owners are ambitious like Madrid sure - but the point is Wenger works in pristine conditions that just managers would kill for: total control, no interference, huge resources, power to work in peace. And yet the excuses continue.

Wenker is on board meetings. Kroenke has never denied him a penny. If you subbed Wenker out and brought in Pep, Ancelotti, Klopp, Pochettino, Low, Simeone, Luis Enrique or even Zidane this current squad it would be in far superior shape. No question.

Even as the years of insurmountable evidence tally up you continue to see mongs in their numbers.

Morons defending Giroud. He "carried us" apparently. A donkey who dared to cup his ear to the fans last night. What had he achieved? Winner in the Nou Camp in a CL semi? A hat-trick at Old Trafford? Errrr no. A knock-down at home to Norwich in a one-goal scrape. He's on £120k a week and hasn't scored for almost HALF a season. But he sees his inept manager disrespect the fans so why shouldn't he? We all know about the fact he buys silence of garbage choir boys like Walcott, Rosicky, Gibbs etc...

Meanwhile we will continue to watch Sanchez, Ozil, Cesc, Nasri, RVP walk out.

We had fans on here going to watch Barca turn up to the Emirates and happily paid £90 a ticket whilst expecting nothing from the home team.

The whole situation is diabolical and I never thought that after 32 years of support I would say this but I'm Out. Done. Finished.

It is no longer the club I grew up supporting and beyond that, the fanbase is now permeated by absolute plankton. Molluscs.

For a club to be successful, the fans, manager and board need to pull in the same direction. Leicester is a great example of that this season.

At Arsenal, every summer with Wenker at the helm is a guarantee that Arsenal fans can't dream and can't hope. While 19 other clubs can.

Well, fuck Wenger, fuck that troupe of arriviste Wenker fanboys. They can keep the club forever.

To the rest of you, the real fans who are distraught by all this and still fight the fight, all the best of luck to you all.

Over and OUT.

my thoughts exactly! well put

[augie]

There have been a fair few games in the past 18 months where I have wanted us to lose...........yesterday was the first game where I was actively shouting for Norwich to score I have had enough of this shit and am begging for us to get walloped in every game from here on until we have a new manager

[casgooner]

For the first time ever this season, I actually don't want us to do the best we can. I'm trying to work out a way of United finishing above us, thus taking 4th, but Leicester definitely winning the league. (The alternative is unthinkable.) It might not get rid of Wenger, but he can lose that smug - 'How many managers have qualified for the CL every year ' nonsense.

[Bradywasking]

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The Arsenal protesters ordered in a dozen Post It Notes for the next home game.


Arsenal Supporters ‏@AFSCLondon 1h1 hour ago Egham, South East

Yesterday was an important moment for Arsene as the masses backed Wenger and gave a true reflection of just how small the WOB really is
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Two beauties from the world of Twitter this morning.

[cameron326]

Too many still can't look at the situation dispassionately. Let's take them at their word:

Wenger built the Emirates almost single-handedly.
Arsenal were basically a small time, mid-table club with the occasional cup win here and there before Wenger arrived.
Arsenal would be on a level with Villa, Everton, Spurs etc if not for Wenger.
Finishing in the top 4 every season (while almost never actually challenging for the title) is still an immense achievement.
Wenger is the greatest manager in Arsenal's history.
Most clubs would kill to be in Arsenal's position.

Ther's some truth to each point, and also a generous heaping of falsehood, but ok, whatever: I bow down to his majesty.

But the question that all the above remains unanswered is the only one that matters: Is he the best man for the job Right Now?
Can he build another title winning team?

The last twelve years is fairly emphatic in answering that question.

I wanted Klopp as I sincerely believe he could have built a title winning side at Arsenal within two or three years, and all the whining "so ungrateful" artcicles/blog comments in the world won't convince me that that is wrong.
Because Wenger is never going to build a title winning team, and so his being in the job merely delays, temporarily at least, Arsenal progressing to the next step - which is what we left Highbury for -surely - constant on the pitch success. The £1500 season tickets and global fanbase (read "top 4") were not meant to be an end in themselves.

My loyalty is to Arsenal Football Club, not to Wenger, however great/legendary/generous/selfless he may or may not have been. As such, I want the best man in the most important position in the club and, right now, that simply isn't Arsene Wenger.

[officepest]

Too many still can't look at the situation dispassionately. Let's take them at their word.

Wenger built the Emirates almost single-handedly.
Arsenal were basically a small time, mid-table club with the occasional cup win here and there, before Wenger arrived.
Arsenal would be on a level with Villa, Everton, Spurs etc if not for Wenger.
Finishing in the top 4 every season (while almost never actually challenging for the title) is still an immense achievement.
Wenger is the greatest manager in Arsenal's history.

Ok, I bow down to his majesty.

But he question that remains unanswered is the only one that matters: is he the best man for the job right now? Can he build another title winning team? The last twelve years is fairly emphatic in answering that question. I wanted Klopp as he could have built a title winning side at Arsenal within two or three years, and all the whining "so ungrateful" artcicles in the world won't convince me that that is wrong. My loyalty is to Arsenal, not to Wenger (who on 8 million a year is not quite the brave, selfless, loyal martyr the media paints hims as).

Exactly.

The way the old fraudster bangs on about his tenure it’s as if he’s doing us a massive fucking favour out of the goodness of his heart; as if he does this under duress, or he gives all his salary to charitable causes. It’s nauseating.

The has-been is the highest paid manager in the country.

[rodders999]

That sweaty fuck Giroud cupping his ears after a simple assist, his first contribution in 4 fucking months and then two minutes later falling over himself as he tried to control the ball.

Get these fucking parasites out of our club NOW. Wenger saying it was the home fans fault we fucked the league showed his blatant contempt for the fans. Then the following day he once again starts the hapless fucking lamp post in another FUCK YOU to the masses.

And what do they do? Sing his fucking name from the rafters. To paraphrase that batman slogan - Wanker isn't the manager we need but by fuck he's the manager we deserve.

Wenger's right, it IS all the fans fault. The brainwashed mongs who no matter what shit they get served continue to lap it up.

FUCK EVER SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

[xisstential]

For the first time ever this season, I actually don't want us to do the best we can. I'm trying to work out a way of United finishing above us, thus taking 4th, but Leicester definitely winning the league. (The alternative is unthinkable.) It might not get rid of Wenger, but he can lose that smug - 'How many managers have qualified for the CL every year ' nonsense.

I spoke about that earlier in the week, with spurs dropping points on Monday, Leicester could afford to lose to United. Unfortunately the win yesterday, even after we lose to City, we will beat Villa at home and scrape into 4th. Cue MASSIVE celebrations... and "I told you to judge me in May.. and once again I've delivered" I feel like crying.

God how I would love United to win their remaining games, Leicester to win the league and us to lose to both City & Villa. A loss at home to Villa would be the best thing to happen all season.

[xisstential]

And thinking about it, Wenger beside wanting him to score & shoving it in all our faces, probably kept Giroud on because he probably knew if Giroud was subbed, he (Giroud) would have been booed off the pitch.

And as for the colossal prick cupping his ear after his "knock down", if that had been the other way around with Wellbek knocking the ball down to him, whoever brought the ball back would have had to buy a ticket to get back in the ground. Useless PRICK!!

[wilko49er]

And thinking about it, Wenger beside wanting him to score & shoving it in all our faces, probably kept Giroud on because he probably knew if Giroud was subbed, he (Giroud) would have been booed off the pitch.

And as for the colossal prick cupping his ear after his "knock down", if that had been the other way around with Wellbek knocking the ball down to him, whoever brought the ball back would have had to buy a ticket to get back in the ground. Useless PRICK!!

Cant have his love child being upset. He rather pisses of sanchez instead.